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 Ever wonder the sudden drop in Memory price?, Here is one of the reason

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post Feb 12 2007, 11:35 PM, updated 19y ago

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http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6016
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U.S. government approaches $1-billion USD in fines from DRAM companies

In a settlement, Samsung agreed today to pay $90 million USD for participating in illegal DRAM price-fixing practices. Samsung and several other major DRAM companies were all caught up in bitter court ordeals involving business conspiracies that affected the bottom line for several major OEMs and system integrators. Originally Samsung was excluded from the list of manufacturers that faced lawsuits:

    * Elpida Memory (Japan)
    * Hynix Semiconductor (South Korea)
    * Infineon Technologies AG (Germany)
    * Micron Technology (USA)
    * Mosel Vitelic (Taiwan)
    * Nanya Technology Corp. (Taiwan)
    * NEC Electronics America (USA)

Despite being last to be on the list, there seems to be no escape for all the major DRAM companies. For all of 2006, Samsung was under heavy investigation, all while the fines were accumulating. In fact, the U.S. government fined a total of $731 million USD in 2006 for DRAM price-fixing. The price fixing scheme caused major OEMs to pay higher than normal prices for memory and those costs were then passed on to customers. Had all the major DRAM companies actually remained competitive, DRAM prices would have been lower.

Of the $90 million USD that Samsung must pay, $80 million of it will be returned back to those affected by the schemes, while the balance will be distributed among local and state government bodies. For Samsung, the new fine will be something familiar to the company.

In 2005, Samsung was ordered by the U.S. Department of Justice to pay roughly $300 million USD in a separate case.

Most of the above companies have not just faced the U.S. government in court, but also Rambus for patent infringement cases -- not coincidentally Rambus provided much of the key evidence against these DRAM manufacturers in this and other DRAM antitrust cases.

Late last year, Micron had claimed Rambus was not playing fair in the DRAM market and filed a suit against Rambus for abusive business practices. Interestingly, in August of last year, the FTC also claimed that Rambus unfairly monopolized the DRAM market. The FTC decided yesterday to heavily slash the royalties on certain DRAM that Rambus makes its licensees pay


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post Feb 12 2007, 11:59 PM

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Now i get it why does the sudden rise for the price of rams a year ago. sweat.gif
Luckily, i didn't buy any rams at that time.. laugh.gif
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post Feb 13 2007, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 12 2007, 11:59 PM)
Now i get it why does the sudden rise for the price of rams a year ago. sweat.gif
Luckily, i didn't buy any rams at that time.. laugh.gif
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Yea, its actually not because the price is dropping but it "should" be at the current price from last year ago blush.gif
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post Feb 13 2007, 12:09 AM

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that time i buy 512 ddr2 at rm150. not even one month later, price raised like current composite index huh laugh.gif
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post Feb 13 2007, 12:11 AM

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-Edited as i just realised the link on top-

As from what i know, the current ram price drop actually is a supply and demand problem due to the over optimistic vendors on Vista. Looks like there are other reasons though. hmm.gif

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post Feb 13 2007, 03:35 AM

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Too bad micron doesn't give a damn and would still fix their chip prices damned high
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post Feb 13 2007, 06:05 AM

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i bought my e-devices ddr2 667 rams for rm130 per piece last year. about 2 weeks layer, the price was hiking up to like..rm190~rm200 per piece. sweat.gif

lucky me laugh.gif

edit: forgot to mention it was 512mb ddr2 667. whistling.gif

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post Feb 13 2007, 07:27 AM

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already suspect this long time ago. not only happen once but few times already if not mistaken. imagine 4GB flash drive only cost rm13x but 512MB of RAM cost more than that.... but flash n ram are different things though (i think laugh.gif)
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post Feb 13 2007, 10:33 AM

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Meh, expect it to rise up again when PC Fair comes to town
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Feb 13 2007, 10:33 AM)
Meh, expect it to rise up again when PC Fair comes to town
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true..i dunno much about market price for ram..but its usually higher on pc fair..
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post Feb 13 2007, 11:03 AM

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Do you guys still remember there was once last time back in 2001 the RAM price crash and a 256MB sell as low as RM70 back in those days? I remember I grab 2 pieces of 256MB making my Pentium 3 PC 640MB RAM. (Thats a lot in those days where everybody only run 64MB/128MB).

In the end I sold out the second hand RAM in RM100 profit after the RAM price go up like KLCI. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(billytong @ Feb 13 2007, 11:03 AM)
Do you guys still remember there was once last time back in 2001 the RAM price crash and a 256MB sell as low as RM70 back in those days? I remember I grab 2 pieces of 256MB making my Pentium 3 PC 640MB RAM. (Thats a lot in those days where everybody only run 64MB/128MB).

In the end I sold out the second hand RAM in RM100 profit after the RAM price go up like KLCI.  tongue.gif
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haha,perhaps the ram can drop to that price 1day soon
cos now vista need huge ram to run smooth biggrin.gif
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post Feb 13 2007, 12:28 PM

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I don't know about that but for now over here, the prices for 1Gb DDR2 533Mhz sticks are about RM320/= which in my opinion is back to old prices. Too bad there ain't any valurams yet using Micron D9's
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ho.... how come.... i don't think we can claim back our money... usd 90 milion, damn super huge amount, that just from samsung... how bout other compony...
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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Feb 13 2007, 12:34 PM)
ho.... how come.... i don't think we can claim back our money... usd 90 milion, damn super huge amount, that just from samsung... how bout other compony...
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good luck tryinh to make a claims since this would require you to submit proof of purchase to the makers since manufaturers (I'd prefer to term as assemeblers) of RAM's sticks aren't involved in this and they charge accordingly due to pricing demands by RAM chip makers.
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well....we wont get our money back anymore,just wait the price to drop again and again lo....but..maybe will rise again?cause demand rise,(windows vista needs ram memory),price will rise too?
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post Feb 13 2007, 02:21 PM

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Don't worry. The ram price will further drop, due to there will be more supply coming out.

Many new 12 inch factories will start production this year. And they will be producing DDR2 and other type of rams, such as ddr3 and graphics ram. Not only that. 12 inch factory will be using newer technology that will be easier and cheaper to produce higher speed ram. Expect by end of the year, DD2-800 will be the standard ram speed.

Right now, ddr2-667 is almost same price as ddr2-533. But few months back, there is a huge price difference.

I read somewhere that Hynix has normal 1GB DDR2 ram chip (16 pieces on a module will be 2GB ram) that can do ddr2-1000 easily. And the rams were running 4 pieces 2GB module for total 8GB at ddr2-1000 speed.

Vista appears to be no help in ram demanding. So good for us.
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Guys, please enlighten me please, really noob in this. Whoever can't understand what i'm saying please don't flame me.

1. The high-performance 1Gb DDR2 677 ram is selling at RM390,
written ram come in pairs, pairs means 2 sticks of 1Gb ram or 2 sticks of 512Mb Ram?

3. 1 stick of 1Gb DDR2 Ram on mobo = 1Gb
2 sticks of 1Gb DDR2 Ram are actually 1Gb or 2GB on board?

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post Feb 13 2007, 03:14 PM

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US $90 mln, where will the money go? go US gov pocket? not fair for us costumers around the world.
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post Feb 13 2007, 05:29 PM

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from what da computer dealer nearby told me.. some of the suppliers aren't going to release some stocks of RAM and have given the excuse that there's no stock because the price might be shooting up again. huh.gif

anyway, i just looked inside the Memory, Drives, Media bulk and it seems that the price recently dropped 1-2 days ago. so I think better buy now then later. tongue.gif

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