Its subjective . Like most u said, its just wat each user look for. No clear answer. Like i said again i not need an overly lasting secondary phone. 5'' 3500 in a smaller body wit proc prowess is an upgrade to some

Im used to using high end flagship phones, despite performance difference is not noticeable to most however i do feel the difference of various processor. For example OP3 and P2. And im not even a gamer. I don game. The evident appear more obvious when u multitask while engaging on the phone and taking camera while on the phone n simultaneously editing/recording on excel sheet and various normal operation and then u will like me, appreciate the proc prowess like the OP3 gave me but d OP3 is almost 2k, Zuk Z2 under 1k, same proc n min 4Gb ram so its a natural decision factor...despite not a primary phone prerequisite of lagless proc but im just used to such operation finesse hence trading battery for slightly more performance

Basically under 1k, but i have repeat purchaser discount

Hijack first haha i think there's no lenovo zuk z2 around at lowyat kan. searched ady

great phone. very slick, very nice glass back, fibre reinforced plastic side casing i think quite durable but lighter
3500mah 5" getting basically 5h30min with remaining 20-30% left

moderate usage. machem P2 operation more streamline and more lagless than ZUK Z2

also slightly have mic issue for wechat voice message ,listen back my own voice so soft shit volumn oredy all max...but voice calling no complain from the other end so far

the only reason i get the ZUK Z2 beside price is the 5" ZUK Z2 one hand operation, i've my other phablet oredy so im extremely appreciate a smaller 5" sidekick



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Feb 23 2017, 06:58 PM

My fren at 12am put mudah 2unit iphone 6 sell together rm1100 each so both 2200. Ppl meet him 1hour later n done deal terus lol

He bought a huawei mate 9 this mrng used unit rm2k (rrp 2699)..quite nice phone

Lastnite also put mudah my Oneplus one rm600. This morning have 7ppl ask n sold for 550. Bad condition lg tu lol

i agree antutu is not conclusive to gauge an overall performance of a smartphone flagship or not, just like a car hp, horsepower alone doesnt tell the whole picture there r other factors as well, weight, engine, aerodynamics, etc. but if putting a 300 hp car (SND 835) with a 150hp (SND 620), obviously hp alone is conclusive unless the 300hp car manufacturer has completely no idea what it is doing. the high SND 835, cant be possible the ram n other UI r not streamline to send high antutu reading for its 835 SND. its a no brainer.

imho antutu just give a surface yet rather relevant performance of a smartphone though not overall cuz there r other elements like UI, OS, Ram but it is rather suggestive in my opinion because the UI, os ram efficiency do (minimally) contribute to the antutu reading (thus, narrow) result thats why i believe antutu is a reflective of the smartphone performance but not conclusive because it doesnt translate to UX (user experience) suggestive in the sense that, pound for pound, it is sufficient for a modest match (relatively reliable result)....say, same spec hp, then antutu is a relevant derivative of the sum of the respective phone because the antutu reading is part outcome of the ui, os, ram etc.

so to me, i would read antutu reading as a relevant but not conclusive factor albeit proc segment alone is more

relevant/distinctive to antutu i.e Antutu reading surely higher for (1) SND 820 to 625 but doesnt mean 625 UX is worse off than a 820 phone such as leeco that one as long as the 625 all factors r in harmony like iphone their os just helped their low ram significantly, it may not have high antutu if ever applicable. but antutu (2) 625 4G will higher than 625 2G Ram cuz the ram helped. n usually a 835 will higher antutu than 620 hp at same ram or even 620 higher ram than the 835 cuz 835 is just too much to pull the gap for 620 so it is EXPECTED (suggestive, not conclusive) the 835 to be better overall performance than 620 just like a (3) 300hp car> 250hp but putting the 300hp car to a 100hp car will be conclusive like SND 835 vs 620 hp...so antutu will be suggestive or conclusive depending on the which phone u r putting against refer back to eg. 1 ,2,3...

This post has been edited by wayfeel: Feb 26 2017, 01:15 AM

uoll compare hp proc machem car spec horsepower and century sprint, use what turbo, what NA enjin...lol, i.e. "eh, your phone har, open browser how many mili second har..., 0.5sec...shit,mine only 0.8sec...tula who ask u buy 620, 820 powdeful la...antutu 110k"


their phone popular cuz can throw burglar ma...i wonder now punya nokia will kambek with durability as well or not

now smartphone so fragile, it would be interesting how nokia approach to that....its abit ironic huh....glass---durability

anyhow i think lenovo zuk z2 is quite good approach to that one...reinforced plastic bla bla bla some cage mechanism forgot d

my zuk z2 watsapp voice also like that, i just live with it. lucky just 2nd phone larrrr


I cant live with that lulz but helpful to know



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Mar 1 2017, 06:46 PM

P2 is successor to VIBE P1 in which P2 has dropped the name VIBE oredy so just P2 but they r the same cuz tecknikally no VIBE P2

but iphone users defy all lol different physic them

ya Redmi 4 prime 5" 4100mah. im looking at that one now LOL

https://www.asus.com/my/Phone/ZenFone-3-Zoom-ZE553KL/

SD 625, adreno 506
5.5" 76.5% screen ratio
170gm
f/1.7 sensor size ,1/2.55, 1.4 ym, 2.3x optical zoom, dual lens
4/128GB
OIS EIS
8mm slimness
Battery 5000mah
Rm2099
Lol

But quite impressed wit the advertisement no doubt. Can tell they put alot of effort into making a long long advertisement...besides they really pushing the price oredy machem huawei ady haha...but heck, hvg d industry largest sensor size...

If d sensor size is d largest in d i dustry, half d battle won d. Its always abt d sensor size is d limitation. Tambah lagi 2 lens, OIS, Optic zoom...very very strong. N larger size always is better low light no douvt abt that, slap in a 5000mah, u can go wrong

This post has been edited by wayfeel: Apr 3 2017, 12:00 PM

Got RAW

But i eas never impressed wit asus design. It could be a dealbreaker to me...possibly. n many ppl sell their Hp, just search mudah loool...at least lenovo wasnt even that many...unless it has never got to asus sales figure in d first place

This post has been edited by wayfeel: Apr 3 2017, 12:02 PM