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kamilnu
post Nov 30 2016, 12:34 AM

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The UMS plug is a 15A plug with no fuse in it. The reason why there is no fuse bcos it has direct wiring straight to the MCB (not combine a few circuits) like the 3-pin 13A circuits. If there is overcurrent, the protection is at the MCB (MCB will trip).

Normally this 15A socket is for high ampere equipment (water heater and AC)
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post Nov 30 2016, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(kengyan @ Nov 30 2016, 08:58 AM)
Not all will use those plug, especially for TS's case he won't.
I'm sure you have your stand and keep saying the round plug's usefulness, but do stick on the topic and try to answer what TS's needs.Very obvious he won't be installing electrical hob/hood.
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And he also not plan to change the faceplate
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post Nov 30 2016, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(kengyan @ Nov 30 2016, 09:48 AM)
After some advise, he planned to change the faceplate. When read, do read all first before trying to derail other people's needs with your personal view.
I will admit I'm wrong by giving TS wrong info if you can show me 20 13A mainstream electrical appliance that comes with BS 546 plug.
TS already mentioned clearly he want to use normal electrical appliances only and don't know what to do.
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If the decision have changed, than is my bad. I never really read through all unless I was following the thread from start.
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post Dec 1 2016, 03:26 PM

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thanks again for all your replies.

after i visited some shops and found all electrical appliances i might buy are using normal 13A plugs, i decided to change the wall socket.

now i'm just not sure can i DIY to change the wall socket as the wires inside might be different (i haven't open it and see)
idkihavenoidealol
post Jul 5 2022, 09:54 AM

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Sorry to necro this thread, facing kinda similar problem.

I have an old magnetic starter (for old AC usage, but now AC not connected to it).

I'm planning to use a 4 gang extension cord, change the plug from 13A to 15A and then plug into that magnetic starter. My appliance should be using 13A fused plug, and I'll plug into that extension cord. So is this way safe?
Or better not to use anything other than AC for that magnetic starter?
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post Jul 5 2022, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(idkihavenoidealol @ Jul 5 2022, 09:54 AM)
Sorry to necro this thread, facing kinda similar problem.

I have an old magnetic starter (for old AC usage, but now AC not connected to it).

I'm planning to use a 4 gang extension cord, change the plug from 13A to 15A and then plug into that magnetic starter. My appliance should be using 13A fused plug, and I'll plug into that extension cord. So is this way safe?
Or better not to use anything other than AC for that magnetic starter?
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This is not conventional, but there is no reason why you can't plug in a socket extension to the starter. (as long as all the wiring to the DB is sound and up to specs)

Except for this point:
A magnetic/Direct Online starter normally has a Thermal Overload Relay inside, which is supposed to trip just in case the air cond starts pulling more current than it is supposed to. This TOR may be set as low as 3.5 - 4 Amps, meaning your socket extension can only supply that much current.

I would suggest:
You just remove the DOL starter and put a 13/15A socket in its place. The DOL starter is already surface mounted, so a socket surface mounted in its place should look a little less conspicuous and a little less obtrusive.

This post has been edited by stormer.lyn: Jul 5 2022, 08:31 PM
idkihavenoidealol
post Jul 6 2022, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ Jul 5 2022, 08:29 PM)
This is not conventional, but there is no reason why you can't plug in a socket extension to the starter. (as long as all the wiring to the DB is sound and up to specs)

Except for this point:
A magnetic/Direct Online starter normally has a Thermal Overload Relay inside, which is supposed to trip just in case the air cond starts pulling more current than it is supposed to. This TOR may be set as low as 3.5 - 4 Amps, meaning your socket extension can only supply that much current.

I would suggest:
You just remove the DOL starter and put a 13/15A socket in its place. The DOL starter is already surface mounted, so a socket surface mounted in its place should look a little less conspicuous and a little less obtrusive.
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Didn't know about the TOR. Thanks for the great explanation, now I understand more thumbsup.gif

 

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