I want to get a 2nd hand ford fiesta 2011 model as my 1st car for work. But most of my family members and friends saying that don't get ford due to several reasons. I don't really care much about the performance, the house power, the torque moment, the gear transmission, etc. (I actually do concern about those things just they are not my main concerns.) And resale value is not my concern because i gonna keep it for some years. My main concerns about getting a 2nd hand ford fiesta 2011 are:

1. if any thing happen to the car, is the replacement parts very expensive and very hard to find in Malaysia (specifically in Penang)
2. is the maintenance fee (minor and major) very expensive compare to Honda and Toyota (not SC but those car service shops outside)

hope ford drivers and ford fiesta users can help me on that. Thanks in advance.

Yes, spare parts are more expensive than Jap cars and you may have to wait for parts. Yes, cost of maintenance will be more. If those two are your main concerns why get a Ford Fiesta? Just get a Honda or Toyota and be done with it.

My budget is below RM 40K and the car can't be older than 5-6 years. Ford Fiesta 1.6 2011 Model is the main results i got from carlist.com.my apart from proton and perodua.

Both your points are valid. If you live in Klang Valley there are a few Ford specialist workshops, but in Penang it would be a bit hard and your only option is Ford Service Center.

That said, there are not many things that require a specialist, most normal maintenance items such as oil change and belt change can be done in any workshop. major items like clutch replacement yes you will need to bring it to Ford or a specialist shop as they require special tools.

Spare parts prices are mostly abang adik with jap makes, but unlike jap makes it is hard to find third party/replica parts for Ford. So while you can find a RM300 third party driveshaft for Vios as oppsed to Toyota ori RM3000, it will be hard to find such alternatives for Ford.

Honestly, if you are just looking for cheap transportation, you can hardly beat local makes.

nono if reliability and maintenance costs are the main concern, dont touch this car...

go google how much, the clutchpack and tranny controller costs~~ then cry

Thanks for the information.

Which car brand would you recommend besides proton and perodua?

suzuki swift, 2011 model only 31k.

quite hardy car, spare parts may be expansive, but it is tough.

not even sure what you are looking for.... why did you even consider the fiesta in the 1st place? style?
assuming a less than 5 yo car with a budget around 40k, no need for space, you may consider:

+swift?
dont really like this thing, not exactly loaded with goodies, but kind of meets the (assumed) bill
does look pretty tho

+mazda 2
older ones were nothing special if you ask me...
also looks somewhat pretty and interior is quite nice

+rio (a tad over 40k)
now this comes with lots of toys though i still feel that its lacking in the engine department.
parts not the cheapest either but, somewhat decent (do not know if it will be an issue finding sc's in pg)

Do NOT in any case consider: (you had the guts to think about the fiesta, these possibly crossed your mind...
-peugeot 308 (or the rest)
-alfa 157 (or the rest)
-polo

top up 10k go for new persona
or new bezza

Budget below 40k, car not older than 5 - 6 years.

Why not get a new car? New car = less hassle, less problem, new parts.. Saga or Bezza would be your choice i guess.
Budget have around 40k and must < 5 years old, try to look for Kia Picanto then, 35k to 40k , 2 to 3 years old, still under 5 years warranty.

The transmission is not good in this car. Good for 0-60, horrible for maintenance.

As others have said, all your parts will be original Ford parts, whereas with Japanese and local cars you can get OEM and 3rd party parts. If you're only interested in original parts then prices are similar but availability is limited for Ford, meaning higher price eventually.

Could I interest you in a brand new Haval M4?

Pug 308T is certainly no-no but Polo may be OK if TS is prepared to fork out a little higher maintenance than a typical Jap but not a lot of difference. A 5 year old Polo 1.2 TSI will be just about TS's budget.

i think the polo has the DQ200 right?? if it has that dryclutch, best not touch it.... amount of $ potentially going into that would be very similar to the fiesta

No it comes with the Aisin six-speed automatic transmission. Seldom hears any complaints about Polo.

if i remember correctly, the aisin only came with the with the simple old school boring 1.6.... not the fancier models. The fancier fi motors got the dsg of death~

Polo tsi comes with DSG

I own a fofi 2011 model, it's like this, if there is no problem there will be no problem untill the car is completely dead.

A few question to ask the previous owner,
a. Did he receive an FOC extended warranty?, if yes, ask for the letter from SDAC as a proof
b. HOw often he drive outstation (or is it a second car?), Ford is a strange car, the more it is driven, the less problem it is, especially on the transmission, my car i notice that if I tekan all the time, it has no problem, but if I drive like my grand ma, all sorts of problem comes out (contrary to Jap cars)
c. He use ron 97 or ron 95?, if during the first 2 years it is driven with ron 97, the engine will be very smooth, if not, completely pointless (this engine is a high compression engine that can truly benefit from high ron, low ron can mess up this engine)

Your concern,
b. Parts problem, quite unlikely, because the most possible damage will on the transmission (they call it PCM and TCM), if item "a" above is available, then no issues, if not, when it fails, it will cost 10k + to fix
c. Other parts, brake, spark plug, timing belt and etc (the common ones) are very normal, just like any other car
d. Expensive?, you can ask an infamous ford workshop aka "Bug" (you can google him out)


Common headache with this car
a. Gearbox and transmission (but hey, even VW high end model also have same complain on their DSG)
b. Engine vibration during jam (that's the characteristic - changing from gear 2 to 3 is a bit clumbsy, but if that happens during slope climb, then that is the real damage)

If you need to know more about ford, you can PM me, at least I own 3 fords, 1 nissan, 1 toyota, and I do not speak from hearsay, good luck!

Which shares the same headache with FOFI, but DSG like any other dual clutch, if there is problem, it's a problem for life, if there is no problem, there will be no problem

Just avoid Ford Fiesta unless you are a road warrior with a high tolerance for pain and a lot of time to take to the workshop. It's not as if there are no other cars for your money and you need to buy a possibly problematic car and hope for the best.

TCM 4k-5k only IINM. Some has extended 10 year warranty for the TCM.

PCM is Ford's name for it's ECU.

Yes I can attest to the car needed to be driven hard. Driving slowly in traffic can wear it down rather quickly. The transmission is not built for slow driving under hot weather.

This post has been edited by dares: Nov 22 2016, 07:51 PM

Guys thanks for the information, the supports given are much appreciated. After long consideration, i give up on the decision to get a 2nd hand ford fiesta.

I agrees with the first half of your statement and reject the rest.

TCM 4 - 5k?, interesting, quotation from where?

Hmm,.... not a road warrior, but 5 years no problem, only regular service, how did you maintain or driving style of your fofi?, just sharing for note changing

OK - what is your final decision?, we all are very kepoh one LOL

he don't own any fiesta AFAICR

Aiya biasa la, even so, for the few owners that have bad experience, sure make more noise than the thousands that is satisfied,.... human nature ma

In the last 11 years of owning a Jap car I've never had to put the car overnight in a workshop for even one night. Can you say that of your Fiesta?

You are one of the very lucky ones. The average Fiesta owner will need to change their DCT within the first 3 years, sometimes more than once.

That's the figure that has been floating around from where I don't remember, it was slightly cheaper than a clutchpack (also 4-5k) IINM. You can ask SDAC if you have the chance.

In FnF, non-owners make more noise than owners that has bad experience.

In the last 5 year of owning my fiesta, I've never had to put the car overnight in a workshop for even one night.

Saying something loudly means something, I presume?
Or it boil down to pure luck, then what's the difference ?


And again, get your terminology right before you blare like no tomorrow.

I know you're not a savvy guy, but please, please please try.

Hmm,..... maybe you can enlighten me on how many fofi got sent back on DCT?, I am also very curious to learn more, since you say average, care to share the numbers?

LOL and facts of life, and they will say "in average" and also dunno where they got those info, like SDAC or Ford disclose those numbers,..... seriously, I am almost laughing at that post now

HI, I think let this Ginny fella win lah, arguing like this ain't gonna make our wallets thicker LOL

OKla OKla, you win la, your 11 year old car is the best!

Just want to add my 2 cents as well.

2011 Fiesta here as well... issues with the car are all down to luck I guess. It has been a smooth ownership for me so far.

I drive my car hard, completed 110k in 5.5 years, on 3rd set of wheels, 2 battery changes, headlight bulbs require replacements every 6 months, absorbers are shot, engine mounting are shot. No major issues so far.

But all the periodic maintenance are done on time. Oil changes, timing belt change, etc..

Can't comment on the maintenance, but this is a really fun little car. It's due for a replacement but no competitor has been able to offer a car at a similar price point for the driving experience.

TS has already made his decision to stay away from Fiesta, let's not confuse him anymore

/tered

Well, for a newbie with cars I can't really recommend a second hand Fiesta.


This post has been edited by kluseng: Nov 23 2016, 07:02 PM

I'm curious, how did you assume when a text in a forum is being said loudly? Is it up to you to decide what is loud and what is not?

Owning a car should not be based on pure luck. You can slant the odds in your favour with proper choice. Do you want to take your chance with a car with 80% chance of problems or one with 10% chance?

Then again, if I have to teach you this you are not a very savvy guy.

Good for you if you have a perfect experience with your Fiesta. Let's hope it stays that way for the next 5 years. I still say you are lucky. But it's running out of warranty and this is not a car you want to keep without warranty. Just a bit of friendly advice.

This post has been edited by Ginny88: Nov 23 2016, 07:00 PM

I'm also curious, how did you assume when my car without problem is a luck problem while yours is due to facts?

Either way, isn't it the same when our dealer "Eeny, meeny, miny, moe" out our car from the yard and called it a day? IF so, how difference it is with your chance of getting a good car work out better than mine?

While on the other hand, you while mostly claim internet reviews, user feedback and other sources to prove to me that Fiesta is inherently lousy and crappy, I would not argue you with that since everyone will have their opinion regarding anything but again, I would like you to stop from poking from one situation to another situation regarding this so called reliability issue, which is more of propaganda or misleading information.

Again, get you terminology correct, learn about the tech before you accusing something.

No not consider FORD anymore in malaysia......
my sister own a fiesta and still under warranty...
Gearbox got abnormal sound after serviced in SC.
after complained to them,they said due to dual clutch problem and it is wear and tear.
WTH......after service immediate got problem now they just playing daichi.....
Attended consumer court this morning,my sister was informed to find technician verify and give proof to them show that is SC 'touch' gearbox before.......

GOOD......

Mean we need to find ford technician and verify,after that ask him become our witness and sue ford.......hahaha

*DCT need special tool to dismantle and that is only can preform is ford service center!!!!

Do not consider FORD anymore in malaysia......
my sister own a fiesta and still under warranty...
Gearbox got abnormal sound after serviced in SC.
after complained to them,they said due to dual clutch problem and it is wear and tear.
WTH......after service immediate got problem now they just playing daichi.....
Attended consumer court this morning,my sister was informed to find technician verify and give proof to them show that is SC 'touch' gearbox before.......

GOOD......

Mean we need to find ford technician and verify,after that ask him become our witness and sue ford.......hahaha

*DCT need special tool to dismantle and that is only can preform is ford service center!!!!

This post has been edited by initialdota: Mar 29 2017, 02:55 PM

Hi, may I know where do you send your Ford car for repair/maintenance as I am looking for a reasonably priced workshop..thanks