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Volkswagen2
post Dec 28 2016, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(metalslug @ Nov 21 2016, 11:11 AM)
I hope forumers can advise me about gated and guarded environment.

I own a house in Johor located in Nusajaya( is a landed property, not condo). For the 1st 2 years, the gated and guarded is free. After 2 years, the developer will handover back to resident after the resident form a Committee (not sure this is correct). Before coming to end of second year, the residents formed a Committee board and held their 1st AGM back in Oct. Now after the formed, no more updated from the committee. Think they are still waiting for something before they announce.

Heard slighty that they will charge approximate RM100 for each house for gated and guarded so called the maintenance fee.

So my question is,

1) Rm100 is it more or less can cover the expanses and maintenance fee?
2) What is some resident dont pay the fee if they thought Rm100 is alot (1000 house x RM100 = RM100k per mth?)
3) Can you sell the house if you dont pay the maintenance fee? Does the committee has right to stop owner from selling out the unit? 
4) Is the group / persatuan can collect fee on behalf of the resident?
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1. Depends on conditions. Will need to see what are the expenses to determine if RM100 can cover or not. The committee will usually have someone to monitor the funds/collection. If insufficient they will raise the monthly fee.

2. Residents can choose not to pay if they don't want to pay, or they feel RM100 is too much.

3. Can.

4. Not sure about this question.

Usually the security of gated and guarded is managed by security forces employed by the committee, and these are usually gangsters. Some residents may choose not to pay, though the committee or security may have their own ways to deal with non-paying members.

I am not sure how does collection of the condominium or apartment work though if there are some who don't pay the monthly maintenance. I am sure there will be cases of some people not paying.
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post Dec 28 2016, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Hades76 @ Nov 24 2016, 03:57 PM)
Yeah metalslug. Just like your case. If you choose not to contribute to the security for whatever reason, can the security stop you from going into your house ?
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The security cannot stop residents from going into their houses. That is against the law. However, they can make life difficult for non-paying members. If the access through the boom gate is by access card, they can deactivate the card and force residents to queue in the line to register as a visitor.
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post Dec 28 2016, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Hades76 @ Nov 24 2016, 03:46 PM)
Sorry, just to seek clarification. If your gated and guarded security is in place and you dont want to pay for the security, can the security stop you from entering the area, compound to your house ?

I hearing mix answers to this so any guru here can answer, must appreciated.
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The security, committee or anyone CANNOT stop a resident from entering his own house. That is against the law. However, they can make life difficult for you since the philosophy of a gated and guarded is for the whole community living in the same area. Imagine if all people pay for monthly maintenance and few people don't pay, what will the paying members feel? Paying members are funding for the non-paying members in security and facilities. As such, the committee or security will usually have their own ways to make life difficult for non-paying members.

If one feels dissatisfied with the security or committee, there isn't much he can do. The gated and guarded scheme is a collective vote and I believe most will choose to have this facility. Even though there might be few who don't want to have this gate and guarded scheme, those who don't want to pay for the maintenance, the G&G will be there as long as majority of people living within a community wants the facility and are willing to pay for the monthly maintenance.

Perhaps in more rural areas or kampung villages where most low-income earners reside, majority will choose not to have gated and guarded as they cannot afford to pay, hence you don't see G&G at some of the low-cost housing areas usually single-storey.

 

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