Hello sifus,

I am a newbie in property and this will be my first property purchase. I have been doing survey of mid size condo (1000 to 1600sf) market in Mont Kiara. I have spent two weeks in MK to visit Sunway Mont, Sefina, Arte Mont Kiara, Agile and TWY showroom & construction sites and finally narrow down my choices to Sunway Mont, Sefina and Agile.

My purpose of investment is for own stay and property appreciation within 5 to 10 years.

Based on the information I have, this is the ranking:

Location: Agile > Sunway Mont > Sefina (right beside Segambut kampung)
Price psf: Sefina > Agile > Sunway
Floor Plan (IMO): Sunway > Sefina > Agile
Density (from low to high): Sefina > Agile > Sunway
Design, Concept and facilities (IMO): Sefina > Sunway > Agile
Carpark: Sunway > Sefina = Agile
Developer: Sunway Mont > Sefina (UEM Sunrise) > Agile (popular in China but MK project is a JV with local company)
Maintenance Fee: Sefina > Agile > Sunway

Sunway Mont (Completed end of 2020)
I like the 1605sf (3 carparks) and 1122sf (2 car parks) very much. Well designed floor plans, no wasted space and with forest / MK views. Slightly more expensive than Agile and Sefina and only completed end of 2020. Location wise not too bad, at least better than Jalan Kiara 3 where Sefina is located. Some people raised the concern of nearby high tension cables but since I am targeting high floor unit that shouldn't be an issue to me.

Sefina by UEM Sunrise (Completed Q2 2019)
Best concept I have seen so far. Visited the showroom and felt very comfortable with it. A lot of facilities such as guest waiting lounge, beach volleyball (WOW?!) etc. Swimming pool design is very good too, feel like swimming on the star deck lol. BUT, this condo will be located right beside the segambut dalam, which is a total disappoinment to me, I think it will affect for property apprecaition as well. The sales agent said there will be another entrance at the back once Jalan Kiara 4 is extended but god know when. All of the units facing south are booked, only left the north-facing units with Segambut kampung view. I really cannot imagine the luxurious and upmarket style when playing volleyball, swimming and chilling right beside the kampung....

Agile Mont Kiara (Completed Q2 2019)
Prime location. Walking distance to Publika. Accessibility is very nice. A HUGE garden for residences to chill, like the garden in chinese palace we see in drama. Visited their showroom and felt very chinese style. Not sure how is the end product quality but the showroom fitting make me felt a bit cheap in the first place. Weird room window, bathroom and kitchen designs. I am not saying they are bad, just not my liking. Another issue of this project is the lift, there are quite a number of forumers pointed out the limited lift provided for the 44-storey tower. Appreciate some sifus can provide more info about that. Btw, this condo address is not MK address.


Please share your thoughts, pros and cons on these projects and that can help me to make a right decision. Thanks!

Hi kochin

I have been thinking whether I should go for subsale as initial down payment isn't a problem for me. I am currently renting a condo and pay rm2200 monthly. I understand the logic of paying installment instead of rental.

But three things hold me back:
1. It's old design
2. I don't like to stay in an old place.
3. Chance for appreciation less than the new launch.

I would appreciate if you can recommend a few decent choices in MK subsale and I will go propwall to dig some good ones to compare

Thanks!

Among 3 I also prefer Sunway Mont. If Sefina is located in jln kiara 5 that would be best of best.

Got a call from sefina sales agent telling me the lands at jalan kiara 4 and segambut already bought by developers and projects already submitted and approved already. Eventually the kampung will be cleared, just a matter of time. Can any sifu verify for this?

Sefina price is really attractive hmm..

Bro Tiffani is indeed super prime location. Walking distance to Solaris Mk. I will do some researches for these two thanks for recommendation.

For 3, I actually researches a little bit and found that the old condo in Mk hardly appreciate. Maybe ppl there prefer new condo new design? That's why verve suite appreciated a lot and 2nd market is good.

My current place got 3+1 lift also need to wait. Agile 1+1 lift definitely not enough, I hope my information is wrong.

Too big

Fair point. With that said, older condos generally offer better facilities and lower density than newer condos.

Sefina has one badminton court, sauna and steam, They also have very big residential launge and guest waiting launge at the lobby, which is quite impressive at that price.

Sunway Mont don't have badminton court. Not sure about Agile, if lindan buy one unit maybe they will build one.

Yeah true. That is why the developer and management team is the main concern to me. For old property, we can easily survey the management team through their existing residents and other public sites. For new launch, we can only hope the future management team and quality of the end product will be good.

My current tenancy contract is till 2017 end of October. Therefore, I only need to wait 1.5 years for new launch like Sefina and Agile, and 2.5 years for Sunway Mont. That will be RM39,600 and RM66,000 respectively. I will need to make RM35psf (on Sefina or Agile 1.5 years down the road) or RM85psf (on Sunway 2.5 years down the road) gain to offset the rental. Therefore, if the new launch appreciate above these figures I am making extra money.

Another advantage of new launch is that all developers are providing free legal, disbursement and loan agreement fees, plus and minus around RM10k to RM13k.

Alright I will research those located at Jalan Kiara, I am very interested in those have high walkability score. I actually wonder why the old condo price hardly appreciate despite they offer very cheap price psf, maybe people or foreigner there love new condo?

This post has been edited by hamjun0225: Nov 21 2016, 06:05 PM

you got lobang bro?

I am planning for own stay about 5 to 10 years before selling. But who knows what will happen in future...

How's the walkability and environment of Tiffani Kiara?

Maybe yours is 3600sf, hard to resell I guess

Thanks I will consider them

Visited UEM Sunrise but they are not promoting acoris, I guess it's fully sold d no?

I look at Lumina youtube video looks like Lumina comes with marble flooring too.

These two are definitely in my consideration list now.

You bought subsale bro?

Any comment on the management team, facilities inside and the quality of Tiffani?

Thx for info. Looks like the kampung will still be there even though got saville and ardena.

Did a bit research, Lumina small unit 1500sf are all below 7th floor, pass~

This post has been edited by hamjun0225: Nov 22 2016, 11:12 AM

Yep agile is 80 units/acre but the whole project looks dense. I don't like the chinese style garden btw.

Budget max is 1.2m
2+1 room or 3 room
Prefer the proper MK, Jalan Kiara 5 also can. Car park at least 2. Nice swimming pool, sauna and steam is a plus.

This post has been edited by hamjun0225: Nov 22 2016, 11:21 AM

I get who is that.

I am doing research of Tiffani and seems like the price is within 750psf to 1100psf now.

Location is perfect.

This post has been edited by hamjun0225: Nov 22 2016, 11:21 AM

Bro i googled aman is a 12 yr old condo, how is the condition now?

Sound very nice place, why do you want ot move out?

The swimming pool got heater is it true?
is there any water leakage at your unit?