previously im using 17" te37 taiwan as well. its very light for me. currently using japs 17" is way heavier. but my japs are not those rays/volk laaa...

Trust me 90% rims u see on the road are imitation and I rarely see or not yet see them breaks yet. Unless you are telling me you going to drive on potholes everyday which even ori are not going to save you

Even replicas quality are getting better nowadays, not that I condone it, but the reality is genuine forged rims are very expensive and that leaves people with very little choice other than getting replicas.

Other than the quality of the steel, designs also play important role. If you know you're getting replica, especially big-sized rims, please don't buy those designs with small spokes.

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