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waja2000
post Feb 26 2017, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Feb 25 2017, 09:37 PM)
shud be possible bit i dun think it would happens as atm ady abandon the big calibre stuff
though i do wanna see if they could mount howitzers on it to be a sph though that would be pretty overkill  biggrin.gif

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your picture is 155mm gun is too oversize for Gempita

Gempita with Oto Melera 105 gun look well balance ratio gun/body size。 as many other country 8x8 amour mount 105-120mm gun too.
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no sure how long our army will get SPH。
just Gempita more simple solution for bigger calliber before SPH... since we have best road network, and "Jalan parit" "jalan kelapa sawit" should be good enough for our 8x8 pass trough.
why atm ady abandon the big calibre stuff ? caliber too cost ? or too big for our army personal to take?

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post Feb 26 2017, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Feb 26 2017, 02:23 AM)
French had bad recent experience in Africa when they found their wheeled mech infantry outgunned by super-technicals armed with 23mm or even (rarely) 37mm cannon. Hence why suddenly they reversed the trend of leaving 105mm cannon for 40mm laugh.gif

These are examples used by ISIS: 37mm AA and 57mm AT (!)

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that why France Nexter come out Nexter jaguar EBRC 40mm soon for army.。。?

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post Feb 26 2017, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Feb 26 2017, 12:28 PM)
got DRL some more  laugh.gif
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trend now ...... laugh.gif
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post Feb 28 2017, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(lokideangelus @ Feb 28 2017, 02:25 PM)
Iran ?
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Saudi 。。。 they sign deal with china to setup manufacturing drone in saudi, and saudi military will used it and will sell it to there Arab alliance country too.
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post Mar 1 2017, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Feb 28 2017, 07:34 PM)
Like buying Tesco barang over Cold Storage... for low-tech stuff you really can't beat the value brows.gif

Even in Msia which have suffered from them, its okay to layan KNN Commies™ instead of agenda yahudis which have done nothing to us... because the Great Satan of today is Murica. Back in the 80s it was Russia. Well, imam say so... so like that lah whistling.gif whistling.gif
probably West approach African people for that, or maybe East Europe... thats how they acquire Soviet tech the last time
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value is one think ...
main importance China sell weapon/asset is they (china) not care your country internal issue, also not tied with any rule. not like America. they just want do business. rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 1 2017, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 1 2017, 09:39 AM)
Chinook can land anywhere

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this one landed on the sand dune next to Penang Bridge yesterday

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=133...&type=3&theater
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that is Special Operations version Chinook (MH-47)which special made with extra seal so can land in water/lake/sand, and refueling. but also flight slower 26xkm/h vs 315km/h.
Normal army version CH-47 no have capability for that,


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post Mar 1 2017, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Mar 1 2017, 10:32 AM)
i don mind delay or just cancel 2nd hand M109A5 SPH anyway ... better get other new SPH few year later
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post Mar 7 2017, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Mar 6 2017, 10:17 PM)
quick question

being a training ship, can it be readied for actual combat? (eg placing guns & launchers on it and etc)
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no issue for that ....
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post Mar 7 2017, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Mar 7 2017, 04:47 PM)
RAN HOBART Class Air Warfare Destroyer
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Australia navy buy Sejong class destroyers (KDX-III) design also cheaper and more powerful than this HOBART Class
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post Mar 8 2017, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(TigerLion @ Mar 8 2017, 01:42 AM)
Politics.

China saw an opportunity of a lousy shipping plan and grabbed the opportunity.

I don't think Mindef is planning to use RSN's assets to transport military vehicles. The cost of such an arrangement had been proven to be 10 times as high as using a normal cargo ship doing multi-port stops.

In my opinion, it's not really a big issue. China just want to show SG who is boss. SG is not that important a chess piece that people think it is. SG always promote itself as a supply base for the USN, but if you think about it, such an arrangement is only useful during peacetime. During wartime, China will be attacked from bases in JP and KR, not from ships travelling from Europe to SG to China like those cargo ships.
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Is time SG navy built own LHD Enduran 160, so can move army armour vehicles to any training location like in OZ & TW, even use for Asian country military exercise activity. some more LHD is cheap to built for ST Marine。Sg Mindef should no issue on budget。 laugh.gif

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post Mar 8 2017, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(TigerLion @ Mar 8 2017, 11:16 AM)
I disagree.
The primary purpose of those LHD should be for amphibious purpose.
Singapore don't have enough manpower to form a marine corps.
Our only amphibious capability are those infantry and guardsmen who are trained in doing basic amphibious assault.
I rather that money be spent on intelligence gathering and IT capabilities.
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theoretically LHD is for marine corps..but not means need follow 100% this road.. it can change some operation requirement base on requirement。
Since SG military many training will be in Oversea, logistic with LHD is more simple and convenient
it can use for transportation ship for large Infrantry with MBT and army armour vehicles, even as Helicopter transportation ship (i read news SG also move Apache to OZ using chartered plane) to oversea training center or military exercise。
LHD just example, it can be LPD, JSS, MRSS or transportation ship with to SG military.
importance is above ship is cheap to built.
and ST marine try hard to sell Endurance LPD too.
since SG Navy have Endurance Amphibious transport docks, just built other 1 with bigger 13000-16000 tons should be enough for use。

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post Mar 8 2017, 04:22 PM

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[quote=TigerLion,Mar 8 2017, 03:56 PM]
then singapore buy submarine for one? have to make a u turn at tambak johor
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Personally, I think SG has more need for submarines because our security needs are different from yours.

We don't have a large coast to patrol, thus our main security threat comes from other countries' navies.

Malaysia have a super large coast to patrol. The main threat comes from insurgents and etc.

If you study the map closely, you will realized that, except for China, it's not really probable that Malaysia will engage in any sort of naval conflict.

In any war with the neighbors, the actual action will come down to the Army due to large shared land borders and narrow straits, resulting in land units being more of value.

And if you want to compete with China in terms of naval capabilities, it an outright losing battle. Why fight a losing war? Might as well divert the funds to somewhere more useful.
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not agree your view,
SG get Sub bcos threat comes from other countries' navies,
than My not facing threat comes from other countries' navies ?
"insurgents" just extra threat to MY facing, not think to to with Submarine development. Submarine team have there own defense area.
and we need more cheap patrol boat to facing "insurgents"
but anyway RMN/Gov have there "calture" thinking to how to secure sea water.

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post Mar 8 2017, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(TigerLion @ Mar 8 2017, 04:33 PM)
I don't agree with that view.

I still believe that the effect other navies have on MY is really minimal, excluding China.
Look at your surrounding, there are IN, TH, VN, SG and BN.
SG and BN can't really engage in any naval warfare because BN doesn't even have a proper Navy and SG can't get her assets out to open waters in time if your armed forces is smart.
VN can't fully dedicate its asset against MY because of threats from CN.
TH navy is not effective because MY shares a land border. The main fight will take place there and naval assets will not really be helpful.
IN has too big a coast, diluting her naval assets against MY.
In any case, its better to buy tons of sampan boats to insert guerrilla troops into IN than to buy 1 or 2 subs to frighten IN, because chances are their tactics will be the same.
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if from you view seems Asean navies effect to each is minimal, than should asean country no need Submarine, means SG, IN, MY no need get submarine too, even Thailand also getting Submarine soon by this year. i believe Myanmar also setup Submarine force.
all asean country start submarine getting too. Submarine just give country navies "relieved". just like SG getting Submarine bcos "worry on" navies threat.
just like Asean country getting MBT too.
i understand your point money better spend on "sampan boats",
i agree, but also need spend on other navy ship too, cos navy ship need different type ship for there own role..
and MY navy can't enter to IN water too.


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post Mar 8 2017, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(TigerLion @ Mar 8 2017, 05:30 PM)
True.

So your subs repaired already?
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last year start in process service/repair and upgrade after 7 year using.
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post Mar 13 2017, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 12 2017, 10:41 AM)
actually, these will be the best fit for Sabah

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can fly lower, slower and much economical to operate
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Discuss before,
seems using Combat-UAV much cheaper and much more long time surveillance like example 10-16 hrs。
C-UAV like Wing Loong cost usd 2-3 million per-set, A29 cost 15 mil. we can get 5 set of it。 enough to monitor semporna /sandakan water, and cost much cheaper to operation。

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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 13 2017, 07:20 PM)
well the yanks will try very best to say that C-UAV CH4 and CH5 will be under PRC control and not able to fly across the disputed south china sea.  rclxms.gif
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well over 250km drone need datalink via SATCOM, seems our defense force no military satellite yet or maybe have rent military satcom.
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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 14 2017, 12:06 AM)
it comes in the packaged for CH4 and CH5, rent from China, have BDS SATCOM navigation  rclxms.gif
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good packages. buy 3-4 set enough used in sabah。 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Mar 14 2017, 02:56 PM)
If we don't defend Singapore, who will? by First Warrant Officer (Retired) Ali Pawiro



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And if we don't protect Singapore, who will?

The writer spent 29 years in the army and was the Singapore Armed Forces Officer Cadet School's first Regimental Sergeant Major. Today is the 50th anniversary of the NS (Amendment) Bill.
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So 2018 Singapore Army will change uniform again ? rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 15 2017, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Mar 15 2017, 08:26 AM)
For 'lain-lain pangkat(llp)'their retirement is based on duration of service, not the age...  Their initial service contract is 12 years and can be extended until 15 years, 18 years or 21 years based on several criteria. Only who'd served for 21 years will receive a pension

for officer the retirement age is based on age
-captain and below - 45 years
- mejar - 50 years
- liutenant colonel - 52 years
- colonel and special officer (eg. doctors) - 55 years

so,if youre stuck at the a captain rank at the age of 45,you'll be forced to retire.

This is 10 years ago info based on Akta Angkatan Tentera... Its probably already changed/amended now...
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they can't in front liner but can't transfer to like army/navy training camp as instructor ? so can work untill 55 age?

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