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Gerbils Hut V4, I wont bite you, I wont stink either !
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arraille
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 Feb 27 2007, 04:55 PM
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do u mind telling me what is the combination of colours that can provide various sp colour (such as sp argente, sp agouti, sp DEH & sp lilac)...? tq p/s: still trying to understand the gerbils genetic... 
Added on February 27, 2007, 4:58 pmQUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 27 2007, 04:53 PM) u put a aa sp black with an other aa, then can get black oledi, but sp or not hv to see how strong is the sp gene. if sp is not strong then will become ur avatart ALL BLACK. putting an A- gerbil can give u A- & aa pup, but also can be all A- pups. if ur goal is so low, u only want black any aa will do, n better get an aa PP then sure u get blacks. n also if the sp on the sp black it not a nice one, it will make u a few generation to improve the sp gene, again it hv to be a string sp gene. n breeding the generation u will need to get more breeding pair to avoid inbreeding. no no... no 'self' gerbil for me... sp gerbils attract me the most...  This post has been edited by arraille: Feb 27 2007, 04:58 PM |
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jaswwp
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Feb 27 2007, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(arraille @ Feb 27 2007, 04:55 PM) do u mind telling me what is the combination of colours that can provide various sp colour (such as sp argente, sp agouti, sp DEH & sp lilac)...? tq p/s: still trying to understand the gerbils genetic...
Added on February 27, 2007, 4:58 pmno no... no 'self' gerbil for me... sp gerbils attract me the most... uh, self doesnt mean no sp... all black gerbils are self, regardless sp or no sp. self means top n bottom coat color are same. if u want to breed sp gerbils... breeding sp x sp will give you 3/4 sp pups... sp x non sp will give you around 50% sp pups. if u want lilac, deh... you have to start with lilac and deh... dont expect tat a sp black can give you lilac or deh unless it has lilac/deh parents.. then also u have to mate it to lilac or deh in order to get what you want. This post has been edited by jaswwp: Feb 27 2007, 05:05 PM |
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TSnezumitaro
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Feb 27 2007, 05:05 PM
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sp gerbils will give plain color gerbils, its just depance where the sp drop. u wouldn't get 100% sp pups. n there is no certain combination pair will give u certain pups, all depance on the gene they carrying.
its just like normaly black X black give u black, but my black X black with u white n red eye. breeding gerbil is non 1 pair story. u hv to get a few good n right pair inorder to get the color u want in the 3rd generation.
This post has been edited by nezumitaro: Feb 27 2007, 05:09 PM
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arraille
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Feb 27 2007, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 27 2007, 05:04 PM) uh, self doesnt mean no sp... all black gerbils are self, regardless sp or no sp. self means top n bottom coat color are same. if u want to breed sp gerbils... breeding sp x sp will give you 3/4 sp pups... sp x non sp will give you around 50% sp pups. if u want lilac, deh... you have to start with lilac and deh... dont expect tat a sp black can give you lilac or deh unless it has lilac/deh parents.. then also u have to mate it to lilac or deh in order to get what you want. QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 27 2007, 05:05 PM) sp gerbils will give plain color gerbils, its just depance where the sp drop. u wouldn't get 100% sp pups. n there is no certain combination pair will give u certain pups, all depance on the gene they carrying. its just like normaly black X black give u black, but my black X black with u white n red eye. breeding gerbil is non 1 pair story. u hv to get a few good n right pair inorder to get the color u want in the 3rd generation. thanks guys... i get the rough picture already and i think i know what colours i need for the 'starter'...  p/s: need to continue reading about gerbils gene after this...  |
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TSnezumitaro
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Feb 27 2007, 05:16 PM
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yes once u get the picture u will able to know what pair with what.
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crazymouse_yyh
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Feb 27 2007, 09:06 PM
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Hahah... another person that wants to try breeding.... Breeding properly never stops with 1 pair.... it goes on and on and on.... I can say Thank Goodness I poisoned Foo and Jas into gerbils, if not, I don't think we will ever have such nice colours available or even have a market for gerbils in petshops.
Another thing... if pair sp with non-sp... not always will have 50% sp pups... I got a litter with only 1 sp out of 5 pups... sometimes I think it depends on the background of the parent gerbils and also how strong the sp is. For now, I'm keeping my fingers crossed in hoping to get some nice Sp in the upcoming litters.
Hahahah... but my dream is to get another yellow fox and another red fox. Truly beautiful colours that must have more. Now only 1 yellow fox and 1 red fox...
Anyway, I just went to Petaling Street.... still all Argente Gerbils, they do carry Ch coz the colour is not vibrant but the condition... aiyoh... hairless tails... can see the young ones are about 5 months old already... still none sold.
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jaswwp
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Feb 27 2007, 10:20 PM
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Post pic of your red fox ler..haha....so lnog adii
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emino
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Feb 27 2007, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 27 2007, 10:20 PM) Post pic of your red fox ler..haha....so lnog adii Entah! She keeps puji her red fox and yellow fox but keep the beauty to herself  ! |
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crazymouse_yyh
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Feb 27 2007, 10:29 PM
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Hahah... the red fox very active... got a few pics but so blur and ugly.... when got nice pics of course I post lah heheheh...
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TSnezumitaro
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Feb 28 2007, 09:34 AM
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aiyah so sad, my dreak koyak oledi, the agouti pup is an agouti, not grey agouti, gold fur come out  |
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kembara
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Feb 28 2007, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 28 2007, 10:34 AM) aiyah so sad, my dreak koyak oledi, the agouti pup is an agouti, not grey agouti, gold fur come out dont be sad la...gold fur is beautiful also.. |
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arraille
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Feb 28 2007, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 27 2007, 09:06 PM) Hahah... another person that wants to try breeding.... Breeding properly never stops with 1 pair.... it goes on and on and on.... I can say Thank Goodness I poisoned Foo and Jas into gerbils, if not, I don't think we will ever have such nice colours available or even have a market for gerbils in petshops. Another thing... if pair sp with non-sp... not always will have 50% sp pups... I got a litter with only 1 sp out of 5 pups... sometimes I think it depends on the background of the parent gerbils and also how strong the sp is. For now, I'm keeping my fingers crossed in hoping to get some nice Sp in the upcoming litters. agree... actually it depends on which gene is stronger... no 100% guarantee, but the chances is still there... even my ayam serama that have yellow parents sometimes do have black colour chicks... most probably the gene is from the great grandparents, coz both parents of the Dam & Sire is not black also... juz one example that offsprings won't be 100% like parents... the bloodline also play an important role... This post has been edited by arraille: Feb 28 2007, 09:56 AM |
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TSnezumitaro
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Feb 28 2007, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(kembara @ Feb 28 2007, 09:37 AM) dont be sad la...gold fur is beautiful also.. but the aim is in grey agouti n slate... others are too much oledi hahah.. of cos all colors are beautiful, cos every color is a study..  |
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arraille
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Feb 28 2007, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 28 2007, 10:08 AM) but the aim is in grey agouti n slate... can u show the colour... wanna know also... |
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TSnezumitaro
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Feb 28 2007, 10:37 AM
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arraille
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Feb 28 2007, 10:50 AM
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waaa... i love sp slate...  doesn't grey agouti look almost like lilac...? correct me if i'm wrong... |
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TSnezumitaro
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Feb 28 2007, 11:18 AM
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grey agouti: http://www.agsgerbils.org/Color_Strip/gray_agouti.htmlLilac: http://www.agsgerbils.org/Color_Strip/lilac.htmltotally difference. one black eye one red eye, one solid, one white belly. one full grey, one mix fur. hehhehe.. |
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arraille
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Feb 28 2007, 11:22 AM
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foo... any chances on u getting the slate or sp slate...?  |
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TSnezumitaro
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Feb 28 2007, 01:06 PM
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lol depance on my gerbil how many pups they can make hahhaa....
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arraille
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Feb 28 2007, 01:40 PM
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if got sp slate by april-may... can reserve 1 for me...? |
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