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 Can I get back earnest deposit, hse booking 2% ?, can tribunal help in this dispute?

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SUSbg12
post Oct 26 2016, 07:33 AM, updated 10y ago

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I recently paid 2% earnest deposit to book a subsale property.

the booking agreement signed between me and agent says that 2% forfeit if I don't sign S&P within certain days.

only during hse re inspection later with friend again, I noticed, kitchen countertop and floor. beneath is not exactly flat, slanting to one end, we worry hse sinking. the tiles in room beside kichen has been replaced and all walls repainted, cannot notice cracks. I worry for hidden structural defects.

loan approved. can I cancel booking and ask refund?
in case agent refuse to refund, will consumer tribunal
court support me?
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post Oct 26 2016, 07:45 AM

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post Oct 26 2016, 08:01 AM

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What's the agreement on this? A full refund when you couldn't secure loan? Did you applied for 90% loan and get the full 90% loan?
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post Oct 26 2016, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(Kilohertz @ Oct 26 2016, 08:01 AM)
What's the agreement on this? A full refund when you couldn't secure loan? Did you applied for 90% loan and get the full 90% loan?
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yes my 90% loan approved.

aggrement says refund if cannot secure loan.

is the booking agreement valid, ? can be challenged in tribunal court?

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post Oct 26 2016, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(bg12 @ Oct 26 2016, 08:06 AM)
yes my 90% loan approved.

aggrement says refund if cannot secure loan.

is the booking agreement valid, ? can be challenged in tribunal court?

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it is valid but if u want to challenge, i think u need to prove that structural integrity of the house in bad condition, need to hire consultant/architect to do the evaluation. try discuss with the owner about the refund maybe pay him a bit or maybe can ask your friend who work with the bank to come out the rejection letter.
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post Oct 26 2016, 08:58 AM

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Seconded....
U need to come out with failed bank loan approval letter to claim yr full earnest deposit.

In developed countries...u always hire a professional to assess the condition of the house before paying anything...from termite infestation to abs board to structural defect...

Having said so...if u like the house and the price is ngam...perhaps just need so repair or reno work to fix it instead of cancellation?
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post Oct 26 2016, 09:06 AM

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post Oct 26 2016, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(bg12 @ Oct 26 2016, 08:06 AM)
yes my 90% loan approved.

aggrement says refund if cannot secure loan.

is the booking agreement valid, ? can be challenged in tribunal court?

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You will need a rejection letter, in your case it's a bit difficult since its 90% loan approved.. is it written in the booking agreement that you will proceed if it's 90% loan secured?
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post Oct 26 2016, 10:05 AM

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post Oct 26 2016, 10:42 AM

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Very hard lah..looks like oversight on your part also..did not check carefully..you shud get a red flag already when they want to forfeit earnest deposit if not signing snp after certain timeframe. Very rare to get that nowadays. But then again perhaps u worry too much? Was the house beside a lake that u feared it might sink? Are there other sinking cases in the area?
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post Oct 26 2016, 10:44 AM

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Also for a kitchen its normal for the floor to slant to one side so that water wud flow to the drain no?
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post Oct 26 2016, 10:45 AM

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If the house really have so serious issue, suggest you waste 2% booking fees and penalty fees to terminate your loan.

It's more worth your time and effort to grab back your deposit.
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post Oct 26 2016, 10:52 AM

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TS apply loan through the agent or urself? The loan approval letter bank got Cc to the seller?
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post Oct 26 2016, 11:36 AM

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Can play trick like presenting loan rejection letter?
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post Oct 26 2016, 01:15 PM

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1st we are not sure whether the house is really has sinking issue.

or it could be workmanship problem.

most people here are now encouraging TS to fraud and try not to forfeit the 2%.

i think better to discuss with owner. maybe nego for a cancellation or for lower quantum


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post Nov 1 2016, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(forever1979 @ Oct 26 2016, 01:15 PM)
1st we are not sure whether the house is really has sinking issue.

or it could be workmanship problem.

most people here are now encouraging TS to fraud and try not to forfeit the 2%.

i think better to discuss with owner. maybe nego for a cancellation or for lower quantum
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agent said he talked to owner and decided to forfeit

i tried offer 1 mth rental offer for each party,. agent refuse saying that I must abide by 'law'
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post Nov 1 2016, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(wkkor @ Oct 26 2016, 10:52 AM)
TS apply loan through the agent or urself? The loan approval letter bank got Cc to the seller?
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Oct 26 2016, 11:36 AM)
Can play trick like presenting loan rejection letter?
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I was foolish to follow bank contacts given by agents,. now the agent knows all banks approve my loan

isn't there any other way, tribunal? the agreement is not stamped also...
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post Nov 1 2016, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(mingyew @ Oct 26 2016, 10:45 AM)
If the house really have so serious issue, suggest you waste 2% booking fees and penalty fees to terminate your loan.

It's more worth your time and effort to grab back your deposit.
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it is the earnest deposit 2% paid to agent as booking fee.

u suggest give up the 12 krm, isn't there any legal way to claim it?
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post Nov 1 2016, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(axisresidence17 @ Oct 26 2016, 10:42 AM)
Very hard lah..looks like oversight on your part also..did not check carefully..you shud get a red flag already when they want to forfeit earnest deposit if not signing snp after certain timeframe. Very rare to get that nowadays. But then again perhaps u worry too much? Was the house beside a lake that u feared it might sink? Are there other sinking cases in the area?
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I admit my mistake, but can they or law punish me lesser instead say, 1 month rental I pay to agent or owner too... instead of 2% which is too much penalty for change of mind?
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post Nov 1 2016, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(axisresidence17 @ Oct 26 2016, 10:44 AM)
Also for a kitchen its normal for the floor to slant to one side so that water wud flow to the drain no?
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it's actually counter top, high at center near sink and lower at both sides touching wall

agent charge me 3k to redo the counter top, but I refuse

the whole hse is painted, gnd 2 rooms tiled changed. one wall in the last room beside kitchen appears like vertical patch up and painted over. agent claims no crack no sinking.

during meeting with friend agreed to refund, after that refuse saying house is actually fine, cannot refund

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