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post Oct 25 2016, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(BigSaver @ Oct 25 2016, 03:22 PM)
I test drive all car your mentioned,  in the end i choose  city. Because not the safety things or gadget etc (this segment cerato definitely is the winner) , but  i just feel the handling and power for city are there to go whenever i need.  Cerato 1.6 need to full pedal and the engine will start to scream.

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1,6 is quite under power for a c segment
city have lightweight and 120hp thus u feel "power"
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post Oct 26 2016, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(BigSaver @ Oct 25 2016, 03:22 PM)
I test drive all car your mentioned,  in the end i choose  city. Because not the safety things or gadget etc (this segment cerato definitely is the winner) , but  i just feel the handling and power for city are there to go whenever i need.  Cerato 1.6 need to full pedal and the engine will start to scream.

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What sort of handling people talk about when it's running on skinny eco tires?
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post Oct 26 2016, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(vengeful_revenge @ Oct 25 2016, 01:54 PM)
Forte was Korean first turning point that achieved the equilibrium. The 1.6L Forte was huge success while the 2.0L, they don't bother to market after seeing success in 1.6L. Their attitude, just got enough achievement can sit down & relax.  cool2.gif Compared to current Cerato, its success was beating Elantra but then both failure cannibalizing each other, not even raking sales from Japanese but instead losing their market share that they seized during Raptor's era to Japanese.

Japanese quality gone down? Which year are you comparing to? 70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's? Only recent Japanese cars come up with quality to beat Korean and now challenging conti like the latest Altis & Civic interior.

Now without Raptor and me, can your Korean cars challenge Japanese cars head on? No, things just went back to early 2000's where Koreans have to sell cheaper challenging 1 category lower. Back then, Elantra 1.8 priced RM115k challenging Civic 1.8 RM112-117k. Your entire marketing team can't fight Japanese brand now. Sonata LF <RM100k vs Accord RM138k, Elantra/Cerato 1.6L RM80k vs Honda City RM80k. Civic RM112k, where's Elantra 1.8 & Cerato 2.0 price at?

Hmmm....  hmm.gif Must be that tissue box brain trainer taught you all end up like this.
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Haha. I have no problem with Koreans selling cheaper. In fact it's pretty much welcomed. Sales figures is also not my main concern. They sold 10000 units or 500 units also nothing to do with me.

Japanese quality had gone down is a fact. Given the road condition in malaysia, I had tried HRV and City. Both had knocking sound over uneven road. Same chassis, same problem. Last month my mom just bought a CRV. No knocking sound and indeed much comfortable, but this time it's squeaking sound over uneven road. NVH isn't particularly good. Engine noise ok, cvt is acceptable. Let's see how good Honda SC was in solving these problem.

Some poor soul is driving without aircond in their new civic. Why don't you go and comfort them since Honda are using your free strategy.
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post Oct 27 2016, 07:02 AM

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QUOTE(vengeful_revenge @ Oct 26 2016, 01:50 PM)
Have you checked the new Civic btw? It got rated with very good quality in few countries review. The new Elantra & Cerato 2017, they both got poorer score in these comparison review. You want to say Korean cars no knocking sound at all? Those things you mentioned, how come nobody comment nowadays? Just from you. Back in 2003-2009, you still see people saying vibrating sound. Today, much less cases. If you got so sensitive ears, can go for soundproof anytime. At least you don't worry about no tomorrow later on like what happen to Korean & conti now. Bad marketing and management could really kill off car brand.

Haven't I told you, resort to such tiny bits matter attack can never revive Korean cars. Totally wrong strategy. If you played Battlefield 4 multiplayer, you are like trying to take down a main battle tank with machine gun fire. Tank said "it tickles" but then the tank shoots back, your entire platoon gone.
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Yes. For new car, I think they have no knocking sound for Koreans. You can go to HRV thread and read. Normally for new car, there shouldn't be knocking sound. Should be tub tub sound instead of kuluk kuluk sound. Even with my Rio, I dare say no such problem. Just the thin profile tires makes the dashboard rattle a bit.

This is not an attack on Japanese. Instead just sharing so that consumer don't prejudice against Koreans.

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Hello all, sorry to necro, but I don't want to open a new thread since I have the exact same dilemma as TS. I'm torn between City, Vios and Cerato(1.6).

I seek your advise please to determine which is a better buy considering all 3 cars have been face lifted and currently having Raya promotion.

Thanks.
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post May 30 2017, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(HengEkHan @ May 30 2017, 11:16 AM)
Hello all, sorry to necro, but I don't want to open a new thread since I have the exact same dilemma as TS. I'm torn between City, Vios and Cerato(1.6).

I seek your advise please to determine which is a better buy considering all 3 cars have been face lifted and currently having Raya promotion.

Thanks.
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Had the same dilemma 2 years back and end up with Cerato
Never regret
I have a bigger car, better tech, and sleeker design
The downsides are not much power on the 1.6 and the FC definitely can't match City.. but if highway driving still ok.. managed to clock 600km++ for full tank (50L)
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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ May 30 2017, 12:08 PM)
Had the same dilemma 2 years back and end up with Cerato
Never regret
I have a bigger car, better tech, and sleeker design
The downsides are not much power on the 1.6 and the FC definitely can't match City.. but if highway driving still ok.. managed to clock 600km++ for full tank (50L)
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well i have one thing to add to this..... i suspect HengEkHan wants a NEW car.... and if this is the case things are slightly diferent now....


QUOTE(HengEkHan @ May 30 2017, 11:16 AM)
Hello all, sorry to necro, but I don't want to open a new thread since I have the exact same dilemma as TS. I'm torn between City, Vios and Cerato(1.6).

I seek your advise please to determine which is a better buy considering all 3 cars have been face lifted and currently having Raya promotion.

Thanks.
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HengEkHan, i think its fair game if you want to open a new thread, the all have been revamped now (vios especially, experienced a massive change compared to when this topic was opened)...... The cerato is larger, i would give it that much, but if you are looking at the baseline models, i think you can just pass on it. I believe it doesn't come with all the safety features unlike the base models of the other 2 (pls check)
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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ May 30 2017, 12:08 PM)
Had the same dilemma 2 years back and end up with Cerato
Never regret
I have a bigger car, better tech, and sleeker design
The downsides are not much power on the 1.6 and the FC definitely can't match City.. but if highway driving still ok.. managed to clock 600km++ for full tank (50L)
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I will be traveling a lot.
So mostly highway usage.

Thanks for the input regarding your choice for Cerato.
I went to KIA showroom and notice that Cerato now comes with ECO mode. Is this available in your model ? Maybe it'll be more FC saving for city drive with the inclusion of this mode.
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post May 30 2017, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(HengEkHan @ May 30 2017, 11:16 AM)
Hello all, sorry to necro, but I don't want to open a new thread since I have the exact same dilemma as TS. I'm torn between City, Vios and Cerato(1.6).

I seek your advise please to determine which is a better buy considering all 3 cars have been face lifted and currently having Raya promotion.

Thanks.
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Of course cerato more value for money but dont expect the running cost same as b-segment like city, vios. The running cost i mean is like the fuel consumption, tyre price are same as civic altis category since cerato is c segment car. If you willing to fork out abit more for this cost you are good to go. If not maybe you can consider rio sedan.

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post May 30 2017, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ May 30 2017, 12:19 PM)
well i have one thing to add to this..... i suspect HengEkHan wants a NEW car.... and if this is the case things are slightly diferent now....
HengEkHan, i think its fair game if you want to open a new thread, the all have been revamped now (vios especially, experienced a massive change compared to when this topic was opened)...... The cerato is larger, i would give it that much, but if you are looking at the baseline models, i think you can just pass on it. I believe it doesn't come with all the safety features unlike the base models of the other 2 (pls check)
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Yes, thanks for clarifying.
I'm seeking a NEW car among the three choices.
You are right that Cerato baseline is a huge tradeoff with only 2 airbags and no ESC.
I'm looking at 1.6SX for Cerato.

This is an extreme because safety wise, the Cerato 1.6SX outmatches the other 2 models with proper Euro 5 star safety.
It is also of course more expensive than the other 2 at full specs.

Normally I will go for either Vios or City at mid/high specs, but now the aforementioned Cerato comes in around 93K after Raya discount.
Hence the dilemma.

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post May 30 2017, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Effy92 @ May 30 2017, 01:57 PM)
Of course cerato more value for money but dont expect the running cost same as b-segment like city, vios. The running cost i mean is like the fuel consumption, tyre price are same as civic altis category since cerato is c segment car. If you willing to fork out abit more for this cost you are good to go. If not maybe you can consider rio sedan.
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Thanks and point taken.
I'm actually maintaining a very old Volvo XC90 from my dad and this is costing me a bomb.
Hence I'm searching for a new car of my own.
It should be a lot better maintenance wise for all 3 models.

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post May 30 2017, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(HengEkHan @ May 30 2017, 02:07 PM)
Thanks and point taken.
I'm actually maintaining a very old Volvo XC90 from my dad and this is costing me a bomb.
Hence I'm searching for a new car of my own.
It should be a lot better maintenance wise for all 3 models.
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The regular service maintenance for cerato 1.6 is just the same as city vios since it still use 4litre engine oil.

But let say if one day you meet small accident and need to change the headlamp, taillight, side mirror and other part then it will cost more than city vios.

Also the wear and tear part like absorber, pad, other engine part might cost more than b segment.

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post Jun 3 2017, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(HengEkHan @ May 30 2017, 01:59 PM)
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Normally I will go for either Vios or City at mid/high specs, but now the aforementioned Cerato comes in around 93K after Raya discount.
Hence the dilemma.
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RM93K OTR!!!! blink.gif
Sure or not SX variant and bukan pre-reg?
Mana bro??? hmm.gif
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post Jun 3 2017, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(bigberry @ Oct 20 2016, 01:43 PM)
jus buy vios if u dunwan any trouble and live your life for another 7-9years period.
jus buy city if u wan let ppl see u and enjoy ur latest technology
jus buy cerato if u like to enjoy stronger horsepower
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post Jun 4 2017, 05:45 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 3 2017, 05:44 PM)
RM93K OTR!!!! blink.gif
Sure or not SX variant and bukan pre-reg?
Mana bro???  hmm.gif
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Why not. Last year around this month also 87k - 88k otr for pre facelift 1.6 SX.
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post Jun 4 2017, 09:29 PM

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go for test drive. i tested all these and went for the kia cerato. Coming from a civic previously and no regret. It is much more stable and tech wise is so much better. kia is good except for the resale value later

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Reviving this old thread as I'm having the same dilemma.. between current city v vs cerato 1.6sx, which one would be a better choice? tongue.gif

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