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TSshilpesh91
post Oct 20 2016, 01:31 PM, updated 10y ago

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Guys,

I'm actually confused while evaluating three cars as I'm planning to get one. icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

I'm evaluating between Honda City (average RM73k++), Toyota Vios 2016 (average RM80k++) and Kia Cerato (average RM84k++) .

Could the respective car owners/anyone be kind enough to provide some feedbacks/personal experience for the three cars mentioned above.

Thank you so much smile.gif
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post Oct 20 2016, 01:36 PM

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BBC, I will take C anytime
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post Oct 20 2016, 01:43 PM

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jus buy vios if u dunwan any trouble and live your life for another 7-9years period.
jus buy city if u wan let ppl see u and enjoy ur latest technology
jus buy cerato if u like to enjoy stronger horsepower
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post Oct 20 2016, 01:54 PM

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HRV
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post Oct 20 2016, 02:04 PM

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City V....
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Get the one with the i-Vtec!!! If Cerato get the 2.0L model...


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post Oct 20 2016, 02:42 PM

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test drive and let ur feeling pick the choice
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QUOTE(shilpesh91 @ Oct 20 2016, 01:31 PM)
Guys,

I'm actually confused while evaluating three cars as I'm planning to get one.  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

I'm evaluating between Honda City (average RM73k++), Toyota Vios 2016 (average RM80k++) and Kia Cerato (average RM84k++) .

Could the respective car owners/anyone be kind enough to provide some feedbacks/personal experience for the three cars mentioned above.

Thank you so much smile.gif
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Toyota vios. Dual vvt, new engine and very reliable car. And spare parts are everywhere can makeup with body kit become transformer if you want.
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post Oct 20 2016, 03:06 PM

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Vios... nuf said
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post Oct 20 2016, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 20 2016, 03:00 PM)
Toyota vios. Dual vvt, new engine and very reliable car. And spare parts are everywhere can makeup with body kit become transformer if you want.
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post Oct 20 2016, 05:30 PM

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very interesting discussion indeed....guys keep it going rclxms.gif

thanks for all the valuable input and feedback regarding on this thumbup.gif
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post Oct 20 2016, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 20 2016, 03:00 PM)
Toyota vios. Dual vvt, new engine and very reliable car. And spare parts are everywhere can makeup with body kit become transformer if you want.
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Whahahah.....hearsay can outrun a lambor! mega_shok.gif
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post Oct 20 2016, 07:08 PM

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TS, if you're looking at a Cerato, you should move quickly. Stock count is low as the facelift version is going to be launched soon.
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post Oct 20 2016, 07:24 PM

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If you buy low spec City, you're better off with low spec Vios since same 2 airbags but Vios came with electronic stability control which only present on E and V spec City.

If you don't mind Koreans, then I think Cerato is best bang for bucks.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 20 2016, 07:24 PM)
If you buy low spec City, you're better off with low spec Vios since same 2 airbags but Vios came with electronic stability control which only present on E and V spec City.

If you don't mind Koreans, then I think Cerato is best bang for bucks.
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Vios J = RM80,000
Vios E = RM84,000
City V = RM85,000 (after rm6k rebate)

This post has been edited by yattnana: Oct 20 2016, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(yattnana @ Oct 20 2016, 09:08 PM)
Price after cash rebate

Vios J = RM84,500
City V = RM85,000
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Vios J so expensive? hmm.gif

I thought is less than RM 80k. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(versey @ Oct 20 2016, 09:18 PM)
Vios J so expensive?  hmm.gif

I thought is less than RM 80k.  rolleyes.gif
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Eh silap....it's 80k for CVT model
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post Oct 20 2016, 10:06 PM

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why not 2nd hand altis.
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post Oct 20 2016, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(vengeful_revenge @ Oct 20 2016, 10:04 PM)
Korean principal technical trainer at mutiara d'sara said Honda City is best b-segment wor.. Why buy cerato when can buy city?
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Then bring him to Honda showroom. My recommendation is towards the Koreans. I don't really care if the South Korean president drive a Honda, I still buy what I think is the better choice in my opinion. LOL... what you think, is not really my problem at all.
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QUOTE(yattnana @ Oct 20 2016, 09:08 PM)
Vios J = RM80,000
Vios E = RM84,000
City V = RM85,000 (after rm6k rebate)
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Vios J no rebate?
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post Oct 20 2016, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 20 2016, 10:18 PM)
Vios J no rebate?
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Tookar is offering a 1.2k rebate for all Vios models. Might as well go for the City E. But Cerato 1.6 is value for money, at around 88k.
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QUOTE(vengeful_revenge @ Oct 20 2016, 10:04 PM)
Korean principal technical trainer at mutiara d'sara said Honda City is best b-segment wor.. Why buy cerato when can buy city?
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Why buy Cerato over City? Why not? C-Segment vs B-Segment. Solid all around, value for money, and more gadgets. Better safety specs as well.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 20 2016, 10:18 PM)
Vios J no rebate?
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Free service or 1.2K rebate
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post Oct 20 2016, 11:20 PM

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Get the City V.....for an extra rm5k you get:
-6 airbags
-leather wrapped steering wheel
-auto a/c with touch control
-MID with realtime FC display
-rear a/c vent
-2 rear 12v outlet
-6 airbags
-2 usb ports
-1 hdmi port
-touchscreen HU with steering control
-bluetooth speakerphone with steering control
-auto cruise control
-16" alloy wheel

Still want that Vios J CVT?

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post Oct 20 2016, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(vengeful_revenge @ Oct 20 2016, 11:38 PM)
Korean cutting price of C segment to fight Japanese B segment is not value for money but serious failure. Cerato 1.6 was priced rm102k originally during raptor's era. So was the elantra 1.6 at rm92-99k. The bigger 1.8 elantra at rm112k while cerato 2.0 at rm120k challenging civic and altis head on yet managed to sell.

After raptor's gone, price throwing, poor sales began now end up fighting B segment. Sonata d segment now rm9xk fighting civic. Tucson also fighting smaller hrv instead of crv. Clear sign that korean cars creeping back to dark 2006 era fighting Japanese lower level categories
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Lol you should keep up with the times. Didn't know cutting price or giving discount to clear stock and make way for a FL version to be launched is a serious failure. Toyota was doing the same thing with their unsold Vios' since early this year. And pre-FL Vios owners RV is going to hurt.

And ffs, what the fu*k is RAPTOR? Could you care to explain before continuing your vengeful revenge on Korean made cars?
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Kia cerato - C segment car with B segment price, solid safety features with lots of gadgets as well, esp they are clearing stock now for the FL version. RV wise not much diff compared to Japanese car unlike last time.

If your prefer Japanese car, then go for City then. Just it's NVH below expectation.

Is better to test drive each of them before making decision, as diff ppl have diff preference

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post Oct 21 2016, 06:28 AM

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QUOTE(vengeful_revenge @ Oct 20 2016, 11:26 PM)
What I think not your problem but it caused serious sales drop in korean car sales, not your problem coz you still get paid. Car owners suffer over weakened RV in chain.reaction followed by less spare parts. Most marketing staff like you never bothered all these,  so why should public buy cars that principals and distributors don't bother to do well and care for future of owners? No.wonder all go back to japanese cars now. Thanks for your clarification mr marketing staff. Another contribution to Japanese victory in progress.
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All goes back to Japanese? LoL...

Again and again with your no spare parts. Somehow I'm able to buy SonataYF side mirror led strip to exchange mine that was broken when I accidentally swiped it against a lorry. If you go to Japanese, sorry, we sold it as complete setup. LOL... I fixed mine for RM80 while Japanese car owners looking at 600-1k++.

I had an uncle that has been driving a Sonata since pre YF and he still bought one to drive. Why didn't he buy Japanese? Most people that I knew that bought Koreans never turn back. Why do you want to buy tin kosong when you can buy something better cheaper?

Koreans car problem lies with NAZA, not you.
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QUOTE(vengeful_revenge @ Oct 21 2016, 08:25 AM)
Sounds like another strategies stolen from Raptor when his company fleet cars using Sonata NF. Your uncle, your company lar....

Go check how many ex-Sonata YF users now driving back Japanese cars. When I got good income in future and Korean cars still hopeless, I too would sell my Forte and buy Mazda 3. FYI, Raptor that once owned Santa Fe & Forte already bought his old time favourite classic conti for pleasure drive  & Japanese car for everyday drive.

SO side mirror also want to compare,,, thumbup.gif People compare big things you go and compare tiny stuff.

You don't point finger just at Nasa. Why not look at your company products failure first:
Sonata LF
Tucson
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i40
Veloster

For existing that are failing in sales, Elantra, Santa Fe. You go nothing's left. They all failed because of lousy planning, marketing and unqualified brains holding important positions like that fatty trainer responsible for training all sales & strategies personnel. That is main cause and reason why people don't buy Korean cars nowadays.

Best way to prove to you that public mentality including young people, they are all very penny wise nowadays when comes to buying cars out of necessities, no more for fun due to current economy. Go check roadshows, you notice people don't bother to check your Korean cars at few major shopping malls like 1U, Sunway Pyramid, MidValley, etc.

Check morale of all Hwontai staff now, sales people suffer from very poor sales or taking home just basic. Other staff, little or no bonus, increment. Blame idiots like that fatty and Korean principal appointed ignorants for shunning ace strategists like me away twice and distributors 3x. They be chor yat then I be 15 lor. Now they feel the pinch. Stop using raptor's or my strategies.
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Haha... did you read the thread title? Cars compared is a Kia Cerato. So it did have something to do with Naza. Hyundai cars are under Sime Darby. You don't know that and claim to be offering advise to koreans?

Why Naza suffer bad sales? They are greedy. I walked into few showroom in KL, and only 2.5k discount. I went online and the discount went from 2.5k to 7.5k. Why is such big discrepancy? Hence it's already well known that if you're buying Koreans, you need to deal with authorized sales center outside of Klang Valley, instead of Naza operated chain in Klang Valley. This alone is one of the factor that contributed to the poor sales.

In fact in Malaysia, I would rate Kia above Hyundai when it comes to after sales services because they really have some decent authorized service center. Service center operated by Naza is really poor in comparison. Hyundai on the other hand have really poor authorized sc and the one in Glenmarie is so so.



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QUOTE(kakaroct @ Oct 20 2016, 11:45 PM)
Lol you should keep up with the times. Didn't know cutting price or giving discount to clear stock and make way for a FL version to be launched is a serious failure. Toyota was doing the same thing with their unsold Vios' since early this year. And pre-FL Vios owners RV is going to hurt.

And ffs, what the fu*k is RAPTOR? Could you care to explain before continuing your vengeful revenge on Korean made cars?
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Search "Jayraptor" and his posts for maximum entertainment.
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hmmm ,another japanese vs korean
its ur money its ur choice ,who care
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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 21 2016, 09:24 AM)
Search "Jayraptor" and his posts for maximum entertainment.
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QUOTE(soul_slasher85 @ Oct 21 2016, 12:57 AM)
Kia cerato - C segment car with B segment price, solid safety features with lots of gadgets as well, esp they are clearing stock now for the FL version. RV wise not much diff compared to Japanese car unlike last time.

If your prefer Japanese car, then go for City then. Just it's NVH below expectation.

Is better to test drive each of them before making decision, as diff ppl have diff preference
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Agreed. Go to Cerato for handling, safety and cabin space. For RV and fuel savings, go to City. VIOS is too cramped especially at the back seat. Handling and NVH wise, so so only for both VIOS and City.


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cerato package is good, but lacking refinement, handling, etc

if you don't care any of these, just grab cerato. bigger than b seg car..
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Cerato 1.6 will be my pick on this topic , everage is better because of c-segment car .

Like the others said , why bother the rv if you think to own more than 5years above ? Go ahead bro !


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No need to think la Cerato. Interior quality and space win.

However City V spec is good too. Vios interior is dull and cheap.

Why not top up a little and go for HRV or Mazda 3?


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Can consider the Elantra also. Now going below 80k for a great looking C segment. Exterior is sexy and sporty


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Kia Cerato, far superior, a global car, Honda city was made for third world countries and is overhyped / overpriced in Malaysia.

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QUOTE(vengeful_revenge @ Oct 21 2016, 12:47 PM)
You don't know how to read, don't change the subject. Cerato already thrown enough rebate. Hwontai can get production cost lower. Both can't sell right now. You can get friends to back you up saying cerato good value for money but in reality, the customers end up buying Japanese cars. Result speaks, not your comment. Japanese cars today come with quality, you can't fight, can take kite flight
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I don't need my friends to back me. They are free to choose whatever they want to buy. If they are comfortable to buy overpriced japanese shit, I don't hold a grudge. In fact my mom a strong japanese brand supporter.

Quality? No, Japanese cars had been declining in quality. Sad fact. They are not what they used to be. This is what allowed the Koreans to catch up.
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QUOTE(Adjansi @ Oct 21 2016, 06:46 PM)
Kia Cerato, far superior, a global car, Honda city was made for third world countries and is overhyped / overpriced in Malaysia.
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I have been driving Cerato for 2 years already.
No issues and no regrets
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 22 2016, 09:29 AM)
I don't need my friends to back me. They are free to choose whatever they want to buy. If they are comfortable to buy overpriced japanese shit, I don't hold a grudge. In fact my mom a strong japanese brand supporter.

Quality? No, Japanese cars had been declining in quality. Sad fact. They are not what they used to be. This is what allowed the Koreans to catch up.
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catch up ? Don't lie la bro...
sales figures telling you are lying.
not catch up but far off la
Buyers are not stupid .
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QUOTE(ronaldo123 @ Oct 22 2016, 11:20 AM)
catch up ? Don't lie la bro...
sales figures telling you are lying.
not catch up but far off la
Buyers are not stupid .
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Sales figures is just a number. What does it told you about the car?

I never call anyone stupid for buying something they have confidence in. If you're happy to pay the premium for the reliability that have always been the talk for Japanese marquees, go ahead.

Buying more for less, or buying less for more. Malaysians always think pasture is greener on the other side.

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 22 2016, 11:39 AM)
Sales figures is just a number. What does it told you about the car?

I never call anyone stupid for buying something they have confidence in. If you're happy to pay the premium for the reliability that have always been the talk for Japanese marquees, go ahead.

Buying more for less, or buying less for more. Malaysians always think pasture is greener on the other side.
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You don't lie la
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QUOTE(yattnana @ Oct 20 2016, 09:08 PM)
Vios J = RM80,000
Vios E = RM84,000
City V = RM85,000 (after rm6k rebate)
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City v 92k, after rebate 6k become 85k???
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QUOTE(K24 @ Oct 22 2016, 01:23 PM)
City v 92k, after rebate 6k become 85k???
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7k rebate actually..... drool.gif
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I still driving my 6++ years old forte...really satisfied with the quality and reliability...if i want to change a car today...of course i will consider a cerato
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 22 2016, 11:39 AM)
Sales figures is just a number. What does it told you about the car?

I never call anyone stupid for buying something they have confidence in. If you're happy to pay the premium for the reliability that have always been the talk for Japanese marquees, go ahead.

Buying more for less, or buying less for more. Malaysians always think pasture is greener on the other side.
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I agree with you
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QUOTE(ronaldo123 @ Oct 22 2016, 11:51 AM)
You don't lie la
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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 22 2016, 09:29 PM)
SO MUCH BUTTHURT
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you also dont lie la.
if you can't afford a Japanese car don't over shiok with kimchi la.work harder la..lol
Korean better than Japanese cars ..... .rubbish claim
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QUOTE(ronaldo123 @ Oct 22 2016, 09:44 PM)
you also dont lie la.
if you can't afford a Japanese car don't over shiok with kimchi la.work harder la..lol
Korean better than Japanese cars ..... .rubbish claim
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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 22 2016, 09:45 PM)
SO MUCH ASSUMPTIONS
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Liars.....rubbish
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QUOTE(ronaldo123 @ Oct 22 2016, 11:20 AM)
catch up ? Don't lie la bro...
sales figures telling you are lying.
not catch up but far off la
Buyers are not stupid .
cheers
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QUOTE(ronaldo123 @ Oct 22 2016, 11:51 AM)
You don't lie la
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QUOTE(ronaldo123 @ Oct 22 2016, 09:44 PM)
you also dont lie la.
if you can't afford a Japanese car don't over shiok with kimchi la.work harder la..lol
Korean better than Japanese cars ..... .rubbish claim
Cheers
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QUOTE(ronaldo123 @ Oct 22 2016, 09:47 PM)
Liars.....rubbish
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What are these posts about? Oh it's garbage, no wonder I can't read it at all LOL.

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 20 2016, 03:00 PM)
Toyota vios. Dual vvt, new engine and very reliable car. And spare parts are everywhere can makeup with body kit become transformer if you want.
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The car just came out with new engine and cvt, how u know is very reliable?
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The car just came out with new engine and cvt, how u know is very reliable?
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Based on toyota's reliability history. Haha
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QUOTE(kirakun @ Oct 23 2016, 03:56 AM)
What are these posts about? Oh it's garbage, no wonder I can't read it at all LOL.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 23 2016, 02:42 PM)
Based on toyota's reliability history. Haha
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L15A i-VTEC also reliable.....120 BHP some more vs 105 BHP on vios dual vvti
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QUOTE(vengeful_revenge @ Oct 25 2016, 08:29 AM)
If I did not supply strategies to NASA & SD in 2009 & 2010 plus there is no enthusiast that help good cars that can't sell like raptor, Korean cars won't achieve any good sales during 2010-2012 competing head on with Japanese.

So you say sales figure is just number? Sales figures represent how many are convinced to fork out dearly to buy the cars. That is 1 lame excuse.  rclxub.gif Bad sales means people not convinced to buy.

Not just your mom support Japanese brand, several staff in Korean car companies marketing & business development too. People that really bought Korean cars because they knew the pros instead didn't get a job in Korean companies. Already failed the main part, now want to persuade public to buy Korean cars when they personally condemned Korean cars?  hmm.gif

Have you sent in your market intel team to check the new Vios? You say what? Low quality? New fuel efficient dual vvti engine, new gearbox, its interior quality, ESP, you say tin kosong? The new Vios now beats City. It won't be easy for Koreans to take on the Japanese now that they fought back with quality. People pay for Japanese not just premium reliability but also the quality, extra pack, etc.
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Low quality? I said japanese quality had gone down. Not lower quality than korean.

Naza did really bad pre 2010. Those who bought Kia and then when Naza rebadge Kia with a much lower price tag, I think that was a disaster. Probably your best work but a bad one.
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I test drive all car your mentioned, in the end i choose city. Because not the safety things or gadget etc (this segment cerato definitely is the winner) , but i just feel the handling and power for city are there to go whenever i need. Cerato 1.6 need to full pedal and the engine will start to scream.

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QUOTE(BigSaver @ Oct 25 2016, 03:22 PM)
I test drive all car your mentioned,  in the end i choose  city. Because not the safety things or gadget etc (this segment cerato definitely is the winner) , but  i just feel the handling and power for city are there to go whenever i need.  Cerato 1.6 need to full pedal and the engine will start to scream.

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1,6 is quite under power for a c segment
city have lightweight and 120hp thus u feel "power"
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QUOTE(BigSaver @ Oct 25 2016, 03:22 PM)
I test drive all car your mentioned,  in the end i choose  city. Because not the safety things or gadget etc (this segment cerato definitely is the winner) , but  i just feel the handling and power for city are there to go whenever i need.  Cerato 1.6 need to full pedal and the engine will start to scream.

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What sort of handling people talk about when it's running on skinny eco tires?
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Forte was Korean first turning point that achieved the equilibrium. The 1.6L Forte was huge success while the 2.0L, they don't bother to market after seeing success in 1.6L. Their attitude, just got enough achievement can sit down & relax.  cool2.gif Compared to current Cerato, its success was beating Elantra but then both failure cannibalizing each other, not even raking sales from Japanese but instead losing their market share that they seized during Raptor's era to Japanese.

Japanese quality gone down? Which year are you comparing to? 70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's? Only recent Japanese cars come up with quality to beat Korean and now challenging conti like the latest Altis & Civic interior.

Now without Raptor and me, can your Korean cars challenge Japanese cars head on? No, things just went back to early 2000's where Koreans have to sell cheaper challenging 1 category lower. Back then, Elantra 1.8 priced RM115k challenging Civic 1.8 RM112-117k. Your entire marketing team can't fight Japanese brand now. Sonata LF <RM100k vs Accord RM138k, Elantra/Cerato 1.6L RM80k vs Honda City RM80k. Civic RM112k, where's Elantra 1.8 & Cerato 2.0 price at?

Hmmm....  hmm.gif Must be that tissue box brain trainer taught you all end up like this.
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Haha. I have no problem with Koreans selling cheaper. In fact it's pretty much welcomed. Sales figures is also not my main concern. They sold 10000 units or 500 units also nothing to do with me.

Japanese quality had gone down is a fact. Given the road condition in malaysia, I had tried HRV and City. Both had knocking sound over uneven road. Same chassis, same problem. Last month my mom just bought a CRV. No knocking sound and indeed much comfortable, but this time it's squeaking sound over uneven road. NVH isn't particularly good. Engine noise ok, cvt is acceptable. Let's see how good Honda SC was in solving these problem.

Some poor soul is driving without aircond in their new civic. Why don't you go and comfort them since Honda are using your free strategy.
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Have you checked the new Civic btw? It got rated with very good quality in few countries review. The new Elantra & Cerato 2017, they both got poorer score in these comparison review. You want to say Korean cars no knocking sound at all? Those things you mentioned, how come nobody comment nowadays? Just from you. Back in 2003-2009, you still see people saying vibrating sound. Today, much less cases. If you got so sensitive ears, can go for soundproof anytime. At least you don't worry about no tomorrow later on like what happen to Korean & conti now. Bad marketing and management could really kill off car brand.

Haven't I told you, resort to such tiny bits matter attack can never revive Korean cars. Totally wrong strategy. If you played Battlefield 4 multiplayer, you are like trying to take down a main battle tank with machine gun fire. Tank said "it tickles" but then the tank shoots back, your entire platoon gone.
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Yes. For new car, I think they have no knocking sound for Koreans. You can go to HRV thread and read. Normally for new car, there shouldn't be knocking sound. Should be tub tub sound instead of kuluk kuluk sound. Even with my Rio, I dare say no such problem. Just the thin profile tires makes the dashboard rattle a bit.

This is not an attack on Japanese. Instead just sharing so that consumer don't prejudice against Koreans.

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Hello all, sorry to necro, but I don't want to open a new thread since I have the exact same dilemma as TS. I'm torn between City, Vios and Cerato(1.6).

I seek your advise please to determine which is a better buy considering all 3 cars have been face lifted and currently having Raya promotion.

Thanks.
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QUOTE(HengEkHan @ May 30 2017, 11:16 AM)
Hello all, sorry to necro, but I don't want to open a new thread since I have the exact same dilemma as TS. I'm torn between City, Vios and Cerato(1.6).

I seek your advise please to determine which is a better buy considering all 3 cars have been face lifted and currently having Raya promotion.

Thanks.
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Had the same dilemma 2 years back and end up with Cerato
Never regret
I have a bigger car, better tech, and sleeker design
The downsides are not much power on the 1.6 and the FC definitely can't match City.. but if highway driving still ok.. managed to clock 600km++ for full tank (50L)
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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ May 30 2017, 12:08 PM)
Had the same dilemma 2 years back and end up with Cerato
Never regret
I have a bigger car, better tech, and sleeker design
The downsides are not much power on the 1.6 and the FC definitely can't match City.. but if highway driving still ok.. managed to clock 600km++ for full tank (50L)
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well i have one thing to add to this..... i suspect HengEkHan wants a NEW car.... and if this is the case things are slightly diferent now....


QUOTE(HengEkHan @ May 30 2017, 11:16 AM)
Hello all, sorry to necro, but I don't want to open a new thread since I have the exact same dilemma as TS. I'm torn between City, Vios and Cerato(1.6).

I seek your advise please to determine which is a better buy considering all 3 cars have been face lifted and currently having Raya promotion.

Thanks.
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HengEkHan, i think its fair game if you want to open a new thread, the all have been revamped now (vios especially, experienced a massive change compared to when this topic was opened)...... The cerato is larger, i would give it that much, but if you are looking at the baseline models, i think you can just pass on it. I believe it doesn't come with all the safety features unlike the base models of the other 2 (pls check)
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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ May 30 2017, 12:08 PM)
Had the same dilemma 2 years back and end up with Cerato
Never regret
I have a bigger car, better tech, and sleeker design
The downsides are not much power on the 1.6 and the FC definitely can't match City.. but if highway driving still ok.. managed to clock 600km++ for full tank (50L)
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I will be traveling a lot.
So mostly highway usage.

Thanks for the input regarding your choice for Cerato.
I went to KIA showroom and notice that Cerato now comes with ECO mode. Is this available in your model ? Maybe it'll be more FC saving for city drive with the inclusion of this mode.
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QUOTE(HengEkHan @ May 30 2017, 11:16 AM)
Hello all, sorry to necro, but I don't want to open a new thread since I have the exact same dilemma as TS. I'm torn between City, Vios and Cerato(1.6).

I seek your advise please to determine which is a better buy considering all 3 cars have been face lifted and currently having Raya promotion.

Thanks.
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Of course cerato more value for money but dont expect the running cost same as b-segment like city, vios. The running cost i mean is like the fuel consumption, tyre price are same as civic altis category since cerato is c segment car. If you willing to fork out abit more for this cost you are good to go. If not maybe you can consider rio sedan.

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ May 30 2017, 12:19 PM)
well i have one thing to add to this..... i suspect HengEkHan wants a NEW car.... and if this is the case things are slightly diferent now....
HengEkHan, i think its fair game if you want to open a new thread, the all have been revamped now (vios especially, experienced a massive change compared to when this topic was opened)...... The cerato is larger, i would give it that much, but if you are looking at the baseline models, i think you can just pass on it. I believe it doesn't come with all the safety features unlike the base models of the other 2 (pls check)
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Yes, thanks for clarifying.
I'm seeking a NEW car among the three choices.
You are right that Cerato baseline is a huge tradeoff with only 2 airbags and no ESC.
I'm looking at 1.6SX for Cerato.

This is an extreme because safety wise, the Cerato 1.6SX outmatches the other 2 models with proper Euro 5 star safety.
It is also of course more expensive than the other 2 at full specs.

Normally I will go for either Vios or City at mid/high specs, but now the aforementioned Cerato comes in around 93K after Raya discount.
Hence the dilemma.

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QUOTE(Effy92 @ May 30 2017, 01:57 PM)
Of course cerato more value for money but dont expect the running cost same as b-segment like city, vios. The running cost i mean is like the fuel consumption, tyre price are same as civic altis category since cerato is c segment car. If you willing to fork out abit more for this cost you are good to go. If not maybe you can consider rio sedan.
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Thanks and point taken.
I'm actually maintaining a very old Volvo XC90 from my dad and this is costing me a bomb.
Hence I'm searching for a new car of my own.
It should be a lot better maintenance wise for all 3 models.

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QUOTE(HengEkHan @ May 30 2017, 02:07 PM)
Thanks and point taken.
I'm actually maintaining a very old Volvo XC90 from my dad and this is costing me a bomb.
Hence I'm searching for a new car of my own.
It should be a lot better maintenance wise for all 3 models.
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The regular service maintenance for cerato 1.6 is just the same as city vios since it still use 4litre engine oil.

But let say if one day you meet small accident and need to change the headlamp, taillight, side mirror and other part then it will cost more than city vios.

Also the wear and tear part like absorber, pad, other engine part might cost more than b segment.

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QUOTE(HengEkHan @ May 30 2017, 01:59 PM)
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Normally I will go for either Vios or City at mid/high specs, but now the aforementioned Cerato comes in around 93K after Raya discount.
Hence the dilemma.
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RM93K OTR!!!! blink.gif
Sure or not SX variant and bukan pre-reg?
Mana bro??? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(bigberry @ Oct 20 2016, 01:43 PM)
jus buy vios if u dunwan any trouble and live your life for another 7-9years period.
jus buy city if u wan let ppl see u and enjoy ur latest technology
jus buy cerato if u like to enjoy stronger horsepower
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 3 2017, 05:44 PM)
RM93K OTR!!!! blink.gif
Sure or not SX variant and bukan pre-reg?
Mana bro???  hmm.gif
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Why not. Last year around this month also 87k - 88k otr for pre facelift 1.6 SX.
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go for test drive. i tested all these and went for the kia cerato. Coming from a civic previously and no regret. It is much more stable and tech wise is so much better. kia is good except for the resale value later

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Reviving this old thread as I'm having the same dilemma.. between current city v vs cerato 1.6sx, which one would be a better choice? tongue.gif

 

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