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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) Se7en, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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wil-i-am
post Dec 1 2016, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Dec 1 2016, 10:25 AM)
Wah, another potential 6 digits taker
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Lets wait for OPT to confess
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post Dec 1 2016, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Dec 1 2016, 10:27 AM)
To be fair to PNB, they can only do so much. The nature of "on-the-spot" transactions makes them unique but at the same time also open to abuse by irresponsible parties. They're a unit trust product, supposedly for long term and not short term. Such transaction behavior would definitely put them closer to banks than UTMC's.

Having said that, they're doing their best to close the loop. Have you realized that the new management is a lot more transparent as compared to the previous ones? More transparency and adherence to laws always put confidence in people as compared to their "neighbor" (the organization next to the HQ in KL) who reports to no one, have no laws that binds them other then their own made-up acts and rather secretive of their dealings which ends them up lurching from one scandal to another.
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Bro,
In the latest development, ASNB want to increase the size of AUM
Is there any chance for them to launch new Fund with fixed price in order to work towards the AUM?
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post Dec 1 2016, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Dec 1 2016, 10:58 AM)
well for what it's worth, the PNB unit trust finance managers do have impressive CVs.

Mostly foreign graduates
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Besides academic, gud fund managers need to have the relevant skills n expertise too
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post Dec 1 2016, 11:19 AM

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Managed to top up 5 digits each for ASW n ASM but 4 digits ony for AS1M
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post Dec 1 2016, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Dec 1 2016, 11:20 AM)
They used to show the qualifications of the managers but can't find the info on the website anymore.

I remember most of them are  Cambridge and Oxford graduates .

In PNB we trust
In PNB we grow
In PNB we rich
huat ah!!!
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I hope the new tag-team partners can bring ASNB to greater heights moving forward
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post Dec 1 2016, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(filage @ Dec 1 2016, 12:10 PM)
Why 1M become harder to get now? Investor confidence in 1M name now?
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I have no idea
Perhaps it's due to random chance at d point of transaction
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post Dec 1 2016, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Dec 1 2016, 12:23 PM)
Zero unit available
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Have u try all 3 books?
wil-i-am
post Dec 1 2016, 12:33 PM

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By the time reach the counter, teller informed 'sudah habis'
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post Dec 1 2016, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(OPT @ Dec 1 2016, 12:36 PM)
1st round

5digit ASM
4digit ASW&AS1M
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Congrats on your top up
I presume there will b 2nd, 3rd, 4th n so on today
Anyway, keep up the effort
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post Dec 1 2016, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(filage @ Dec 1 2016, 12:35 PM)
Hardest to get become easiest to get now. 1M hardest to get now. How strange..
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It depends on which fund(s) is available at tat moment of time when interested Buyer try to top up
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post Dec 1 2016, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Dec 1 2016, 12:48 PM)
Yes, all 3 books
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I know how u feel right now sad.gif
Just continue your hunt in the afternoon n I blif tat u will get some smile.gif
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post Dec 1 2016, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Dec 1 2016, 02:46 PM)
Went to MBB but was told country-wide MBB's system down, so can't contra account to buy ASx. vmad.gif  mad.gif
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If u can tolerate d risk, withdraw some cash n goes to neraby Agent for try
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post Dec 1 2016, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(OPT @ Dec 1 2016, 02:29 PM)
Second round

5digit AS1M&asw
4digit ASM
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Congrats on your 2nd trip
Just curious, how u kill time while awaiting for your turn?
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post Dec 1 2016, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(OPT @ Dec 1 2016, 03:03 PM)
Unbelievable...finished my FD
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How many digits u bot?
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post Dec 1 2016, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(sandkoh @ Dec 1 2016, 03:04 PM)
high 6 digits fd?
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When is your turn to top up?
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post Dec 1 2016, 03:44 PM

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Official announcement from ASNB on ASN3 Dividend
http://www.asnb.com.my/v3_/pdf/media/berit...HAN_ASN3_BM.pdf
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post Dec 1 2016, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 1 2016, 04:18 PM)
OPEC agree to reduce production.
Any thoughts in this issues
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Bau for ASx FP
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post Dec 1 2016, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 1 2016, 03:53 PM)
Last year impaired FGV already ma. I think only when it's prolonged and significant reduction from book value they would make impairment.
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I beg to differ
In fact, the carrying value of quoted securities is not mark to market as at financial year end
Instead, the Manager will decide whether to adopt MFRS 139 in the financial statements which doesn't states the 'actual' fair value as at reporting date
Thus, indirectly the Manager is in the 'driver seat' to navigate the financial results of the Fund n present the same to unit holders
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post Dec 1 2016, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 1 2016, 04:52 PM)
Yes, the investments are carried at cost, they do not apply MFRS 139

But when the market value of the investment is significantly below its cost for a prolonged period, the right thing to do is to impair it. And that is what they did in the previous financial year for FGV, and some other counters. Of course, what is considered prolonged and significant is judgmental
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M curious how the CFO/FC/FM managed to convince the audit partner to pen down his/her signature on the Report hmm.gif
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post Dec 1 2016, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 1 2016, 05:08 PM)
The financial statement clearly states that it is not in accordance with MFRS and as long as ASNB can show SC's approval on the exemption I don't think it's a problem for the auditor to sign. In fact it's much easier to sign compared to most PLCs with other problems. Fund accounts are inherently low risk

At the end of the day, everything is clearly stated in the master prospectus and disclosure documents. If investors want to interpret otherwise based on 'national interest' and 'constructive obligations' that's really up to the investors lor
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M fine with d upfront disclosure in MP n other docs
Wat I want to have is they shld provide a note in respect of 'rosot nilai' stating opening bal, movements (write off or write back) n closing bal so tat reader can know
Btw, I noted tat there is no provision for 'rosot nilai' in respect of 'pelaburan tidak disebut harga' hmm.gif

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