Beware of this bugger 'jun'. He is the worst 'old forumer' I have dealt with since joining this forum.
It all started like this ;

Upon advertising the sale of my Opteron 144 in GS, I received the following PM :-

"opteron 144 best price how much?
I want it by today or tommorow meet at mid valley
pls call me 012-6616973"

I sms'ed him around 10.50pm (about 4 hours after he had sent the PM). He then replied :-

ME : "Bro, the best price is as mentioned. Do you want it with or without the heatsink fan"
JUN : "Urs is opt 144? Wats the warranty left"
ME : "Its bought as oem. No warranty but i will provide 1 week personal warranty"
JUN : "Hmm ok how long bben use n ur best price again? Can deal tonight at Puchong area?
ME : "9 months and 380 with the heatsink fan or 360 without"
ME : "So can we meet tomorrow at mv?"
JUN : "Tomolo what time?"
JUN : "Ok but isit possible meetup tonight? I need to send the whole rig back by tomorrow actually"

This last message I received was at 11.07pm. He then calls me up and tells me that he needs to meet me tonight and pleads. I tell him to meetup with me either in Sunway or Subang, but he insisted I come to his place with the Opty and HSF. I told him I'll be there in 30mins. He later insisted to bring my own PSU (WTF, you think I'm a salesman or what?) & I told him I don't have a spare. He told me he was using one but he didn't want to take it out from his 2nd rig (Then why did he mention he needs to send the rig back and to who if it's his own rig?) I then bring a friend along and go over to his place. Once at his place, I see his mother waiting and watching after we greeted his mom and him before being invited to his house. He then used an unattached motherboard with a high-end HSF and he takes out his existing A64 3000+ and places mine onto the socket. I asked him whether he was upgrading and he tells me that he thinks his 3000+ is fried. The way this guy handled his board was so reckless and careless, I was not surprised he did (he also placed the bare board on top of his other rig without even putting an anti-static layer underneath it until I mentioned + he didn't even bother to put any thermal paste on the chip stating that he only wants to test it for a few minutes? + I guess he had already planned to do this scheme instead of really taking the chip). His mom had been waiting at the back watching and he finally attaches my proc to 'HIS' (he asked me to bring mine earlier) heatsink fan & attempts boot. I tell him it's better to clear the CMOS before attempting but he wasn't bothered to do so. Once he switches on the board (DFI LanParty NF-4) the fans power up for a split second and go off. This procedure was tried several times whilst I helped him to troubleshoot ( He then asks me if my proc was ok, and I replied "Bro, it's working of course, and do u think I'll come over to your place + give u a week of warranty)". I see his unattached and other components and realize that it was his mobo at fault and question him. He admits that yes it was his motherboard which wasn't working but he thought it was his proc (then WTF did u not tell all this shit into the first place). I then ask him how old is the board and he says about 2 years. I told him that he could go to Alphamatic and claim RMA if it's within 2 years. He tells this to his mother & suddenly both of the speak loudly in Chinese. After several minutes, he then tells me he will only take the proc on Wednesday as he would need to get a replacement board. He then asked wehre we should meetup and suddenly his mom says "Don't meet here, meet @ MV" (WTF biatch, it was ur son who asked me to come over and FFK'ed the deal and now u talk rudely to ur guests?) I knew that this guy and his mom had fu*cked me and since they knew it wasn't their proc which was spoilt, they cancelled the deal cunningly. I asked him once I was out that why don't u take the proc 1st and I'll refund you the cash if there's any probs. He said "No la, I think I'll meet u on Wed and take it there @ MV " (bloody crook, just because I was fair, u decide to take advantage?"

Till today, he hasn't replied or called me back after sending multiple PM's and SMS'es.

My word of advice to any forumers who are gonna deal with type of baskits :-

- Always deal in between both Seller's and Buyer's location which you are familiar with.
- Always, always bring a friend along
- Don't rush into a deal (I needed the dough and I made this mistake)
- Enforce your terms & conditions b4 dealing

Fortunately I have sold of this proc to a reputable buyer and I wish to warn all those who are gonna trade with 'jun' to beware.

THIS INCIDENT HAPPENED ON 22 JAN 2007

This post has been edited by cOMMANDER pRASNTH: Feb 3 2007, 12:48 AM

oh my, on my birthday?
anyway, it seems that he doesn't have a good trading etiquette
i'll keep that im mind, thanks

PM him to come here so he can at least 'defend' his name.

Pls include a link of the forumers lowyat.net profile.
'jun' pls come over here and tell us your side of story, i mean what happened acctually.

This is the profile's link, jun
Judging from one of his threads, the contact number matches the one mentioned by cOMMANDER pRASNTH.
Hopefully he can come over to give an explanation on what is going on.

I wasted my bloody time, money and effort in trying to have a successful deal with him. The least he could have done was to be honest and tell me that he won't take the chip, and instead, he made up stories and doesn't have the courtesy to respond to my sms's and pm's.

I leave it to the mods to inform him. To me, I got my proc sold to a reliable buyer and this thread is to warn anyone who are planning to deal with him.

well....i dislike him as well.....last time i brought a SE Z800 from him...later rosak need to get it RMA...i hav to pay RM180 to send it back Jp and to pay "kastam"......when the hp came back it has scar all over it...and the MS card was lost......then he say its just a card.....so cheap...everytime insisting to go to his place which is extremely far and hard to find....but tat was the last time i will ever deal with him.....

I think its about time we our forum's have an individual database that has all the cod's conducted by each member stating its success and failure. it's also pointless u allow a member himself to list it by himself as he or she would most probably list their 'sucessful' trades and not their 'unsuccessful' ones

Well tourniquet, you should have alerted us earlier of his bad trading conduct. You could have saved commander prasinth a lot of time....but honestly his conduct . And commander prasinth, this is the second time you got yourself into a mess la bro, must be more careful next time whne chossing buyer, especially the persuasive but don't make sense types. You are too nice I think

This post has been edited by pgsingerboy: Feb 3 2007, 04:02 AM

Not all "senior and old trader" is nice guy...

If u were active last year or two, you'll know theres quite a commotion about this guy..

** oh well, i guess if he comes, he'll be shouting at post(s) that talk bad bout him

well....tat happen almost 2 years ago.....im still about it....but wat to do tat time im "in his mercy" because of the RMA thing......

Thanks.
OMG i was thinking the one mentioned by comander prasanth is not the jun selling/flashing handphones and stuffs because i saw his threads which done alot of deals over this forum.

haha, cant blame Torniquet la bro. no one knew i'm gonna deal with him. yeah maybe i've got an attraction to flop deals haha. but u can't blame me man. last time was a snatch case and this time was a fake buyer. perhaps i should have been more firm in the dealing and set out my conditions at start.

it seems like he uses ur proc to test to see if his AMD64 really fried or mobo fried...damn...u go all he way to his house and at the end got nothing....actually something la...u got f**ked up

taking the processor at that time n at wednesday got make what diffrence? it is clearly that he is gambling la.. if the mobo working with ur proc, he will buy.. if confirm mobo spoilt, he will think of many ways to cancel ur sale

i think jun last time selling web hosting alot of people kena con and not happy, i saw several curse him on their sig.

Well i've been oversea for the last whole week tht's y coudnt reply ur call or sms and the rig suppose to bring it over for my cousin but end up getting a new rig at bangkok.

I do owe u a apologize for making up such a big fuss,if u have time why not meetup and have a lunch at mv?i'm sure we can settle all these stuff once and for all.And yea i dont like the word biatch,u woudnt like i call ur mom a whore too right

While we are here to serve our forumers, as one of the aggrieved parties, it is your responsibility to inform him of this. The Mods and TEs are merely bystanders.

This post has been edited by altie: Feb 3 2007, 06:06 PM

The same old 'I went overseas' excuse duh. Btw, commander, might want to put some paragraphs, hard to read.

@TS,

Do you have anything to voice out to jun since he's already here?
If there's no unsettled dispute, i'll close this thread