Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 DIFM Overclocking, Do It For Me(?)

views
     
TSzenho
post Oct 11 2016, 05:20 PM, updated 10y ago

New Member
*
Junior Member
15 posts

Joined: Mar 2009


Dear all, I wasn't sure where to ask, and apparently my Google-fu isn't so awesome because I can hardly find any info.

Is there any reputable person or company that can overclock a custom rig for me in Selangor?
Preferably with warranty


Long story:

I want to get a new mid-range gaming PC. It SEEMS to me that i5-6600k & GTX1070 with moderate overclocking is great value for money. Unfortunately, I have zero experience with overclocking.

So far, I have only found these guys:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
from Google.
(I 100% have no affiliation with these guys. I have also done 0% due diligence checking up on them. If you do have any experience with them, pls share. Thanks.)

As mentioned, not sure if they are 'reputable' and they also don't have a full range of parts.

I'm thinking of heading down to Low Yat (I moved out of KL years ago, and even thinking of braving the jam tires me out) but again, I also don't know if there are any reputable traders there that will OC for me.

So anyways, between having to 'catch up' on technology & parts and trying to figure out all the new terminology is tiring me out. Just hoping for a quick answer now, like "go to this guy! he'll answer all your questions and build you a nice working rig (with 2 years warranty) for a reasonable fee!"

I did think about just buying from Dell, it should give me no headaches, but maybe a heartache because I have to pay so much for less hardware.


Thanks in advance if anyone can help.
psyduck89
post Oct 11 2016, 05:24 PM

New Korean Member
*****
Senior Member
818 posts

Joined: Nov 2009
From: Not Your Business
overclock = void warranty..
what makes u think someone would cover ur warranty for u?
TSzenho
post Oct 11 2016, 05:26 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
15 posts

Joined: Mar 2009


QUOTE(psyduck89 @ Oct 11 2016, 06:24 PM)
overclock = void warranty..
what makes u think someone would cover ur warranty for u?
*
3. Full Years Warranty Covered (from the link I show earlier. I don't really understand what they mean either)

Also, I think Dell's Alienware has a little OC, and covered by their warranty.
edit: (from dell malaysia) Intel® Core™ i7-6700K Processor (4-Cores, 8MB Cache, Turbo Boost 2.0, Overclocked up to 4.2GHz)

This post has been edited by zenho: Oct 11 2016, 05:30 PM
GOPI56
post Oct 11 2016, 05:30 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,494 posts

Joined: Dec 2012
Buy a factory overclocked version of the GPU. A factory overclock is good choice if you do not want to mess with/or do it your self.
TSzenho
post Oct 11 2016, 05:32 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
15 posts

Joined: Mar 2009


QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Oct 11 2016, 06:30 PM)
Buy a factory overclocked version of the GPU. A factory overclock is good choice if you do not want to mess with/or do it your self.
*
They have Factory overclocked version of GPUs? Its one the most complex parts I still have trouble understanding. Got so very many versions of the same GTX 1070. Any brand you recommend?
omgimahero
post Oct 11 2016, 05:34 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
479 posts

Joined: Aug 2012
From: google.com


QUOTE(zenho @ Oct 11 2016, 05:20 PM)
Dear all, I wasn't sure where to ask, and apparently my Google-fu isn't so awesome because I can hardly find any info.

Is there any reputable person or company that can overclock a custom rig for me in Selangor?
Preferably with warranty
Long story:

I want to get a new mid-range gaming PC. It SEEMS to me that i5-6600k & GTX1070 with moderate overclocking is great value for money. Unfortunately, I have zero experience with overclocking.

So far, I have only found these guys:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
from Google.
(I 100% have no affiliation with these guys. I have also done 0% due diligence checking up on them. If you do have any experience with them, pls share. Thanks.)

As mentioned, not sure if they are 'reputable' and they also don't have a full range of parts.

I'm thinking of heading down to Low Yat (I moved out of KL years ago, and even thinking of braving the jam tires me out) but again, I also don't know if there are any reputable traders there that will OC for me.

So anyways, between having to 'catch up' on technology & parts and trying to figure out all the new terminology is tiring me out. Just hoping for a quick answer now, like "go to this guy! he'll answer all your questions and build you a nice working rig (with 2 years warranty) for a reasonable fee!"

I did think about just buying from Dell, it should give me no headaches, but maybe a heartache because I have to pay so much for less hardware.
Thanks in advance if anyone can help.
*
You cant kill all birds with 1 stone...

1) idealtech is reputable.. go find their facebook page and website.. obviously research not enough to be googles tou tai... sweat.gif

2) even in lowyat, no shop is going to hold full range of parts and wait dust to collect for customer to come buy... they only get parts that are in demand from the market

3) with no experience in overclocking... why not get a high performance non overclocking rig? whats your goal to getting an overclocked rig? video rendering?

This post has been edited by omgimahero: Oct 11 2016, 05:35 PM
psyduck89
post Oct 11 2016, 05:34 PM

New Korean Member
*****
Senior Member
818 posts

Joined: Nov 2009
From: Not Your Business
QUOTE(zenho @ Oct 11 2016, 05:26 PM)
3. Full Years Warranty Covered (from the link I show earlier. I don't really understand what they mean either)

Also, I think Dell's Alienware has a little OC, and covered by their warranty.
*
within 3 years, intel will just replace another cpu for u for only once. (in case u damage/spoil ur cpu)


and, by default..
dell system are not entitle warranty claim from oc damage..

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forum...3518/t/19502173



TSzenho
post Oct 11 2016, 05:38 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
15 posts

Joined: Mar 2009


QUOTE(omgimahero @ Oct 11 2016, 06:34 PM)
You cant kill all birds with 1 stone...

1) idealtech is reputable.. go find their facebook page and website.. obviously research not enough to be googles tou tai...  sweat.gif

2) even in lowyat, no shop is going to hold full range of parts and wait dust to collect for customer to come buy... they only get parts that are in demand from the market

3) with no experience in overclocking... why not get a high performance non overclocking rig? whats your goal to getting an overclocked rig? video rendering?
*
In answer to #3, to save a few hundred bucks worth of performance? Or maybe I'm just over-hoping...

And oh yeah, I guess I forgot to mention the purpose, just a general gaming/work rig that hopefully will last me another 5 years. (or am I being too hopeful again?) Mostly gaming, some huge picture files (few hundred megs) editing, some 3D autocad files.
TSzenho
post Oct 11 2016, 05:39 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
15 posts

Joined: Mar 2009


QUOTE(psyduck89 @ Oct 11 2016, 06:34 PM)
within 3 years, intel will just replace another cpu for u for only once. (in case u damage/spoil ur cpu)
and, by default..
dell system are not entitle warranty claim from oc damage..

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forum...3518/t/19502173
*
not even if Dell does the OC themselves?
Intel® Core™ i7-6700K Processor (4-Cores, 8MB Cache, Turbo Boost 2.0, Overclocked up to 4.2GHz) <<< from Dell Malaysia.
psyduck89
post Oct 11 2016, 05:41 PM

New Korean Member
*****
Senior Member
818 posts

Joined: Nov 2009
From: Not Your Business
QUOTE(zenho @ Oct 11 2016, 05:39 PM)
not even if Dell does the OC themselves?
Intel® Core™ i7-6700K Processor (4-Cores, 8MB Cache, Turbo Boost 2.0, Overclocked up to 4.2GHz) <<< from Dell Malaysia.
*
i bet the overclock mean turbo boost...
noobz4ever
post Oct 11 2016, 05:47 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
290 posts

Joined: Nov 2014


QUOTE(zenho @ Oct 11 2016, 05:39 PM)
not even if Dell does the OC themselves?
Intel® Core™ i7-6700K Processor (4-Cores, 8MB Cache, Turbo Boost 2.0, Overclocked up to 4.2GHz) <<< from Dell Malaysia.
*
thats is not OC like what u thought..it's different..it's like driving a car with normal turbo...if u want better performance, u have to tweak the turbo...
TSzenho
post Oct 11 2016, 05:48 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
15 posts

Joined: Mar 2009


QUOTE(noobz4ever @ Oct 11 2016, 06:47 PM)
thats is not OC like what u thought..it's different..it's like driving a car with normal turbo...if u want better performance, u have to tweak the turbo...
*
I'm sure you guys know better than me, so you're probably right.
GOPI56
post Oct 11 2016, 05:55 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,494 posts

Joined: Dec 2012
Overclocking is quite easy if you know how to do it.

Guide on youtube.



This post has been edited by GOPI56: Oct 11 2016, 05:55 PM
ktek
post Oct 11 2016, 08:59 PM

小喇叭
********
All Stars
13,189 posts

Joined: Jul 2006
so i get u, wanna overclock to gain performance from acceptable i5k budget. not competition. ok that good.

given the fact that things will heat up u need to spend some cooling accessory as well. fan or water is up to ur noise acceptance.

what specs in ur mind now and target speed?

This post has been edited by ktek: Oct 11 2016, 09:00 PM
TSzenho
post Oct 12 2016, 10:10 AM

New Member
*
Junior Member
15 posts

Joined: Mar 2009


QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 11 2016, 09:59 PM)
so i get u, wanna overclock to gain performance from acceptable i5k budget. not competition. ok that good.

given the fact that things will heat up u need to spend some cooling accessory as well. fan or water is up to ur noise acceptance.

what specs in ur mind now and target speed?
*
Thanks to all you guys for your kind replies.

I feel like a n00b though. I build my own PC maybe 8 years ago, and now everything has changed so much I think that experience is now absolutely useless.

Anyways, yeah, just hoping to stretch out more bang for buck. Not poor, but it is a significant investment that I hope will bring me some joy after work. Looking at spending maybe 5k-6k for a decent rig that can last.


From what I've been reading, 4.4 - 4.5 GHz seems common to OC on the 6600k. Just looking for performance boost, not to win any competitions.
Haven't gotten that deep into GPUs yet. OC on GPU is just for clock speed also?


Right now looking at something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($317.00 @ Shopping Express)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($65.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($249.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.00 @ PLE Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.00 @ IJK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($649.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.00 @ Shopping Express)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($72.00 @ CPL Online)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor ($399.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $2029.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-12 13:06 AEDT+1100

This post has been edited by zenho: Oct 12 2016, 10:12 AM
TSzenho
post Oct 12 2016, 10:45 AM

New Member
*
Junior Member
15 posts

Joined: Mar 2009


How risky is OC-ing by myself? If its very low risk of permanently destroying any hardware, I might give it a go. There's supposed to be an auto-shutdown on the CPU right? How about the GPU?


Otherwise, sounds like IdealTech is the only guys who can do it for me. So that's still an option.

This post has been edited by zenho: Oct 12 2016, 10:45 AM
ktek
post Oct 12 2016, 11:02 AM

小喇叭
********
All Stars
13,189 posts

Joined: Jul 2006
QUOTE(zenho @ Oct 12 2016, 10:45 AM)
How risky is OC-ing by myself? If its very low risk of permanently destroying any hardware, I might give it a go. There's supposed to be an auto-shutdown on the CPU right? How about the GPU?
Otherwise, sounds like IdealTech is the only guys who can do it for me. So that's still an option.
*
hyper 212 not enough.
i tell u the risk from my past oc.

cpu broken. zero
ram broken. at least 30-40 pcs
mobo broken. 6pcs
psu broken. 3pcs
graphic. 3pcs
heatsink. zero
fan. 2pcs

TSzenho
post Oct 12 2016, 11:16 AM

New Member
*
Junior Member
15 posts

Joined: Mar 2009


QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 12 2016, 12:02 PM)
hyper 212 not enough.
i tell u the risk from my past oc.

cpu broken. zero
ram broken. at least 30-40 pcs
mobo broken. 6pcs
psu broken. 3pcs
graphic. 3pcs
heatsink. zero
fan. 2pcs
*
That's a lot. I'm guessing you also successfully OC-ed many many machines?

I cant afford to break the GPU. tongue.gif Glad to know its not so easy to break the CPU.

And how did you break the fans from OC-ing...? You OC the fan also?! Or power supply problem?
newbieockids
post Oct 12 2016, 11:18 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,405 posts

Joined: Jun 2005



dude, just start to learn it.. overclocking is fun.. beside all that experience and knowledge that you will gain by doing it will be priceless..

why would you pay for extra services or devices for benefit of the OC?...
you want to save money at the first place.. ;-)
TSzenho
post Oct 12 2016, 11:23 AM

New Member
*
Junior Member
15 posts

Joined: Mar 2009


QUOTE(newbieockids @ Oct 12 2016, 12:18 PM)
dude, just start to learn it.. overclocking is fun.. beside all that experience and knowledge that you will gain by doing it will be priceless..

why would you pay for extra services or devices for benefit of the OC?...
you want to save money at the first place.. ;-)
*
Haha, let me check first how many GPUs I need to burn in order to learn. tongue.gif

if 212x not enough, what do you suggest?

This post has been edited by zenho: Oct 12 2016, 11:34 AM
ktek
post Oct 12 2016, 12:27 PM

小喇叭
********
All Stars
13,189 posts

Joined: Jul 2006
QUOTE(zenho @ Oct 12 2016, 11:23 AM)
Haha, let me check first how many GPUs I need to burn in order to learn. tongue.gif
if 212x not enough, what do you suggest?
*
i will aim more copper heat pipe, like silver stone archon ar03 2yrs back i think. it just sufficient for 5ghz stable sandy bridge after install two 120mm 200cfm server fan @4000rpm open air.

gpu buy the highest model u can afford. can choose other brand not gigabyte. i suggest msi
gtx1070 can handle full hd game well. 4k a bit difficult.
TSzenho
post Oct 12 2016, 05:10 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
15 posts

Joined: Mar 2009


QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 12 2016, 01:27 PM)
i will aim more copper heat pipe, like silver stone archon ar03 2yrs back i think. it just sufficient for 5ghz stable sandy bridge after install two 120mm 200cfm server fan @4000rpm open air.

gpu buy the highest model u can afford. can choose other brand not gigabyte. i suggest msi
gtx1070 can handle full hd game well. 4k a bit difficult.
*
Just looking at 4.5ghz maybe. Isn't 5ghz a little ambitious? Especially for first-timer tongue.gif
Would a Cyrorig R1 Ultimate work?

gtx1080 is RM1k to RM1.5 more expensive (more than 50% increase) from gtx1070
not sure if its worth the performance boost? its a hefty extra sum for me.
ktek
post Oct 12 2016, 05:13 PM

小喇叭
********
All Stars
13,189 posts

Joined: Jul 2006
QUOTE(zenho @ Oct 12 2016, 05:10 PM)
Just looking at 4.5ghz maybe. Isn't 5ghz a little ambitious? Especially for first-timer tongue.gif
Would a Cyrorig R1 Ultimate work?

gtx1080 is RM1k to RM1.5 more expensive (more than 50% increase) from gtx1070
not sure if its worth the performance boost? its a hefty extra sum for me.
*
well. the lucky one will found good grade cpu bin, easy oc. otherwise, heat and power will restrict you.
lolzcalvin
post Oct 17 2016, 02:02 PM

shibe in predicament
******
Senior Member
1,588 posts

Joined: Mar 2014
From: 75°26'11.6"S, 136°16'16.0"E


QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 12 2016, 11:02 AM)
hyper 212 not enough.
i tell u the risk from my past oc.

cpu broken. zero
ram broken. at least 30-40 pcs
mobo broken. 6pcs
psu broken. 3pcs
graphic. 3pcs
heatsink. zero
fan. 2pcs
*
Wow. How do you actually OC your GPU until broken hmm.gif

And I found a little problem with zenho's wished rig, I don't think a 500W PSU is capable of doing OC for both i5 6600K and GTX1070, when GTX1070 may pull somewhere near half the power that psu can supply after overclocking core clock (increase power draw linearly), if also increasing the voltage (increase power draw exponentially). I would suggest a PSU with more than 600W though.

Just sharing to zenho, I did my first overclocking 2 weeks ago, my 6600K reached stable OC of 4.4GHz with around 1.4V (not maximum OC, for this I didn't go too far).

For GPU (mine's GTX1060), at least for Pascal, I don't think it's easy to damage a GPU while overclocking anymore. Mine would reset itself back to base clock if the OC is unstable, in some cases when I OC too much, like for instance +120MHz more than its maximum stable OC, PC went BSOD for minutes and the gpu would too perform the formal action.

For GPU voltage I did overvoltage as well, as most GPU OC software will allow you to increase voltage IN PERCENTAGE from the "base voltage" to its safe voltage which makes overvolting safe and sound in my opinion, such that normally it would use around 1.06V load, while increasing voltage to 100% it would make use of additional 43mV which is the max voltage (1.093V) for the card can "safely" handle (and I figured out sometimes my GPU will reduce its voltage to 1.081V while load too, even if I maximise the voltage). You may go past that voltage but its BIOS will not let you to do that unless you flash custom BIOS.

After all of these nothing breaks so far. Above are all my 2 cents worth.

This post has been edited by lolzcalvin: Oct 17 2016, 02:17 PM
ktek
post Oct 17 2016, 03:54 PM

小喇叭
********
All Stars
13,189 posts

Joined: Jul 2006
not caused by over clock. is fan broken. claim warranty ok
kona|kona
post Feb 5 2017, 06:16 PM

arsengal u jelly【ツ】
*****
Senior Member
759 posts

Joined: Jan 2011
From: Izumi's Residence
QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 12 2016, 12:27 PM)
i will aim more copper heat pipe, like silver stone archon ar03 2yrs back i think. it just sufficient for 5ghz stable sandy bridge after install two 120mm 200cfm server fan @4000rpm open air.

gpu buy the highest model u can afford. can choose other brand not gigabyte. i suggest msi
gtx1070 can handle full hd game well. 4k a bit difficult.
*
do you think corsair H55 can provide enough cooling ? hmm.gif
ktek
post Feb 5 2017, 08:49 PM

小喇叭
********
All Stars
13,189 posts

Joined: Jul 2006
QUOTE(kona|kona @ Feb 5 2017, 06:16 PM)
do you think corsair H55 can provide enough cooling ?  hmm.gif
*
h55 is small. what cpu?
DODarwish
post Feb 7 2017, 05:05 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
43 posts

Joined: Jun 2013
From: Kuala Lumpur
Custom water cooling is the better option for overclocking.....CPU, RAM & GPU...

 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0259sec    0.35    5 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 2nd December 2025 - 03:26 AM