yeah been trying to find some other alternative. google-d but some are less known, hence have doubts about it. which is why i was asking what other agencies can do something similar.
some that i found that gave seminars/training were for a few short days, a farcry from the many months of MaGIC's offering.
and then there are those that just give grants and doesn't seem to have an outline of what they'll teach, which doesn't help much for a first timer

sent an email to MaGIC but it's been like a week for them to reply. might call then. just saying that at least i've tried to contact MaGIC and not doing this blindly la

extra question, should a first timer be worried being under a big company? as in company says they don't need anything, but nothing comes free, so maybe in one way or the other, we will have to give something back to the company like decision making, profits, etc.

I started my engineering business more than 10 years ago.  Our customers are all kinds of factories and industries all over the country.  We serve utilities such as power plants, water treatment plants, car assembly plants, chemical, food, biotech etc.  We are very lucky we do not serve or concentrate heavily on oil and gas and as such are largely spared from the mess.

  Despite stiff challenges and many ups and downs I would describe myself as modestly successful and stable in my niche engineering field.  My company has amazingly low overheads as we threw out all the deadwood since last year.  Hiring regular staff (mainly fresh graduates) to maintain company business and to serve customers has been our chief disappointment.  All seem promising but none delivered at all, not even remotely close to expectations. 

We have fixed this problem for the near future and continue to seek talents who can deliver performance results. We presently have 12 vacancies waiting to be filled. We are still in the black and our company look forward to the future to acquire more business to meet our profit target.

I started my engineering business more than 10 years ago.  Our customers are all kinds of factories and industries all over the country.  We serve utilities such as power plants, water treatment plants, car assembly plants, chemical, food, biotech etc.  We are very lucky we do not serve or concentrate heavily on oil and gas and as such are largely spared from the mess.

  Despite stiff challenges and many ups and downs I would describe myself as modestly successful and stable in my niche engineering field.  My company has amazingly low overheads as we threw out all the deadwood since last year.  Hiring regular staff (mainly fresh graduates) to maintain company business and to serve customers has been our chief disappointment.  All seem promising but none delivered at all, not even remotely close to expectations. 

We have fixed this problem for the near future and continue to seek talents who can deliver performance results. We presently have 12 vacancies waiting to be filled. We are still in the black and our company look forward to the future to acquire more business to meet our profit target.

Hi TS

Still live in KJ?

i still do my biz , just post some smaller part to KL last week,
promise but fogot to pack and asleep , next day cannot sempat dy,rush to work,

then next day night i wrap at 12am , during working hour i call poslaju pickup to pickup , i ask my sister post for me and p ut my money on the table to pay posmen,

i in few month can restock my items , but i feel i am too tired to do this business

It is tiring. I've seen a lot of these trends and when things doesn't move, items goes out in wholesale. Not to mentioned tireless amount of time pushing items through online, car booth, events, here and there ... and most of them who's looking for the additional thousand or two at months end will result to Uber/Grab.

As much as it may be sufficient for now to keep things afloat, what about long term perspective? Have you thought of anything in relation?

1. First solve ur personal issue, think abt nothing other than ur own stuff.
2. Move ur ass, do what u plan to do.
3. Cut all those bs, you not there yet, focus on what u good at.

The only concepts that's tested and lasted through time is "MAMAK". Chatime, and others ... got in first and penetrated the market right. Duplicating similar concepts is not advisable in today's time. Yes, food business can work but depends on what business. How much is investor willing to throw on a new food chain business.

Everyone is "openly saying" economy is bad, people loosing job, government have no money, but failing to understand these are not important to us. We need to stop talking too much and start thinking. Regardless of economy, people still eat. People still move. People still gets sick. People will still buy. There's always opportunity even in the worst.

To give you an example. I've favored those "Seafood" restaurant and have always look into ways of making one. But you see, I don't have the expertise although I may know people. Maybe in 1-2 years time or maybe when I bumped into someone that might know how to make it work, I'll throw my money in it. Why? Look at those seaside in Melaka, NS, where seafood restaurant flourish like there's no ending. People will pay to eat and these are the kind of business that could last. But those concepts got it right because they're at seaside and even if that may be a factor, we've seen several in Port-Klang that died. So, it also depends on how we make it happened.

But trying to duplicate similar concepts in KL/Selangor Central Areas is going to be tough. Unless the location is good, niche, ... the food is similar everywhere. In the end, it's just the concepts that got it working. (Primary Factor). Getting people to talk and how social media tend to over-hype it and make the business grow with attention .... etc... these are all secondary.

So again, it depends on what kind of chain restaurant are we looking at here. If you're to challenge fast-food-chains or instant-mix, look through the concept if it's something socially lasting or not. Too many havoc at the start and the buzz just die after few months.

But then again, There are many investors here that scout for talents and ideas. If you have something you think might work. PM us.

Business is overrated. If you cant get thru college what makes you think you can succeed in business. Lets not get started on the bill gates example.

my ex-school junior straight A girl student,

her parent sit merc and cefiro , live in tambun indah,

she was highlighted in chinese papers , her dad ask her to further study after spm but she choose to become businessperson ,(dad keluar duit)

open huge corner bakery shop , hire alot schoogirls , then business no good,sack people and become less  n less staff.

then no people , they convert into seafood restaurant , but in the end also bungkus

in the end also bungkus all together

I have to disagree. You can't judge a fish for its ability to climb trees. Some people just don't have interest in academics. That doesn't mean they can't talk to people, deal with suppliers and sell products. Some people may not like chinaman companies, but most of these fellas didn't graduate and still they own a significant chunk of the businesses in the market today.

1. uhh... what?
2. yeah i'm doing what i'm planning to do : researching
3. what BS?

Interesting thread, how about any experience on online businesses that failed?