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need help with MT-2, power adapter
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TSzeroglyph
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Feb 1 2007, 11:41 PM, updated 19y ago
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hi guys;
i got a Boss MT-2, been using it for 3 years now. always on battery. i think i'm gonna use an adapter. tried asking for boss recommended adapter, but it's really expensive. can i use a normal universal adapter? heard that it is not good to do so. any suggestions/comments?
thanks.
This post has been edited by zeroglyph: Feb 2 2007, 09:51 AM
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Banzai_san
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Feb 2 2007, 02:33 AM
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I personally do not think there's any problem using normal adapter BUT wait till others in the know comment. I might just be wrong
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TSzeroglyph
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Feb 2 2007, 08:08 AM
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yeah, that's the thing. a former colleague of mine(expert player) said it won't be a problem in short term. but in the long run, a lousy adapter will cause irremovable hum in the MT-2 due to broken circuit. not that noticeable, but it's there.
This post has been edited by zeroglyph: Feb 2 2007, 09:57 AM
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asura_86
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Feb 2 2007, 09:45 AM
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i personally would suggest using what the manufacturer suggest u to use...rather than taking the risk to damage you pedal..
FYI, i'm not using an boss pedal here, only digitech and zoom...although getting the adapter that suits it may be expensive, but spending on a good adapter is always better than replacing the pedal someday, right?
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TSzeroglyph
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Feb 2 2007, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(asura_86 @ Feb 2 2007, 09:45 AM) i personally would suggest using what the manufacturer suggest u to use...rather than taking the risk to damage you pedal.. FYI, i'm not using an boss pedal here, only digitech and zoom...although getting the adapter that suits it may be expensive, but spending on a good adapter is always better than replacing the pedal someday, right? or get a rechargeable 9v  . i've been thinking about this too.
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silbii
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Feb 2 2007, 10:42 AM
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boss adapters? yeah - when i first got mine in 1996 it as only about RM60+...now the price has doubled...wonder why? But mine is still ok up to this day - using it to power 6 multi brand pedals...so it's pretty good i guess. if u wanna use a universal adapter...try find the slightly more expensive heavy duty regulated ones (rm30)...not the pasar malam ones. a zoom adapter (rm30) or casio (rm20) could do the job too i think...but dunno if they have some adverse effects in the long run. i use the zoom on and off for years now...no problem. or get 1-SPOT...coz this one this one a bit cheaper than boss but does wonders... [url=http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?ItemID=59981] http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?ItemID=59981[/url] http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews...und/1+Spot/10/1Guitar Store sells this i guess... This post has been edited by silbii: Feb 2 2007, 10:53 AM
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echobrainproject
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Feb 2 2007, 12:01 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ Feb 2 2007, 09:50 AM) or get a rechargeable 9v  . i've been thinking about this too. rechargable batteries(or any batteries for this matter) will have the problem where your tone changes as the battery gets weaker.
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Banzai_san
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Feb 2 2007, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ Feb 2 2007, 08:08 AM) yeah, that's the thing. a former colleague of mine(expert player) said it won't be a problem in short term. but in the long run, a lousy adapter will cause irremovable hum in the MT-2 due to broken circuit. not that noticeable, but it's there. Maybe he's right.  But my "logical thinking" says, if a universal adapter is able to supply the same current as the Boss adapter, there should not be problem. I really do not think Boss adapter has anything really special built into their adapters (apart from maybe 'quality' and brand name). If afraid of current spike, use a voltage regulator la with the adapter (I dont know if Boss adapter has a built-in voltage regulator though). Can also add "lightning arrestor" or whatever-the-name-is protection from lightning surge. I highly doubt the Boss adapter has that too. If you are afraid of getting a lousy adapter, consider looking for higher quality with brand as per mentioned by silbi in his post. But thats me, others have different view This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Feb 2 2007, 01:41 PM
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TSzeroglyph
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Feb 2 2007, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Feb 2 2007, 12:18 PM) Maybe he's right.  But my "logical thinking" says, if a universal adapter is able to supply the same current as the Boss adapter, there should not be problem. I really do not think Boss adapter has anything really special built into their adapters (apart from maybe 'quality' and brand name). If afraid of current spike, use a voltage regulator la with the adapter (I dont know if Boss adapter has a built-in voltage regulator though). Can also add "lightning arrestor" or whatever-the-name-is protection from lightning surge. I highly doubt the Boss adapter has that too. If you are afraid of getting a lousy adapter, consider looking for higher quality with brand as per mentioned by silbi in his post. But thats me, others have different view  yeah, i'm pretty sure he's right. i've tried using a cheap uni adapter before, a few mins, there was this hum, pretty loud. also tried with a more expensive uni adapter used for my HB01 wah, no buzz. that's why i need some opnion here. i'm pretty sure boss adapter has nothing special, checked the spec before, but last i checked the price is rm120. anymore comments/suggestion?
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silbii
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Feb 2 2007, 04:28 PM
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just get the Zoom adapter...cheap (<rm30+ i think) and reliable - but dunno if this is good for daisy-chaining a few pedals. But i'm sure for only one pedal, i dont think there'd be any problem. Visit Guitar Store or CK music for this adapter....
And when u do, try to get get some warranty from the shop in case if the thing causes hums to your setup.
Actually the buzz u say might come from various sources too - ground loop, FM / TV signals, other equipments, your PC, bad current, bad wiring / cables / guitar / amp wiring....
i sometimes get some bad buzz from my guitar amp if i play when the TV / Astro / dvd is on....if i shut them down and the buzz will normally dissapear. So i guess the lesson is that, if u wanna play guitar, play it...don't do other things as well like watch a tv or something...hehe
heck, if u r using a single coil pickup - there'd be louder buzz from the amp actually...humbuckers don't produce that much buzz / hum (btw - i dont really know the difference between this hum and buzz actually...)
btw - just note that innately, MT2 is prone to make unwanted noise / hum / buzz - depending on your environment.
To reduce the noise on MT2, u can do some mod on it...it'd improve the overall tone as well...For this - refer to jamtank.com - a guy there does goodmodding jobs...heck, he once repaired my vintage wah into a true bypass mode with better frequency / vocal range for very reasonable cost...but this is another story
This post has been edited by silbii: Feb 2 2007, 04:30 PM
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TSzeroglyph
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Feb 2 2007, 05:25 PM
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^ thanks for the advice.
actually the hums is more like electrical hum, not sonic hums. you can hear the difference. a friend of mine (electrical enginneer) told me it is electrical, not enough or too much power. as i said, using the other adapter(the one bought for the wah) there's no hum. but what about long term? will it still dmg my mt-2?
This post has been edited by zeroglyph: Feb 2 2007, 07:02 PM
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silbii
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Feb 2 2007, 10:18 PM
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long term? if it's for the next 3, 4 years and the hum appears, just buy another mt-2...get it mod / repaired...or just some better pedals...don't worry too much about that...hehe
heck, some ppl change their taste in music totally after 3, 4 years...if you're suddenly into the blues by then, i'm sure ur not gonna find mt2 that useful for your sonic needs...
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Banzai_san
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Feb 2 2007, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(silbii @ Feb 2 2007, 10:18 PM) ... heck, some ppl change their taste in music totally after 3, 4 years...if you're suddenly into the blues by then, i'm sure ur not gonna find mt2 that useful for your sonic needs... Ada some musicians pulak thought that they've found the perfect tone/sound for his/her/their guitar playing, but after 3-4 or few months... the search for one's perfect sound/tone continues Macam never ending journey la pulak... ihihihkss This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Feb 2 2007, 10:38 PM
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TSzeroglyph
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Feb 3 2007, 12:03 AM
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i've been using the mt-2 for 3 years now. even if my taste in music changes, i'd still like to keep my mt-2 as pristine as possible  .
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supercolossal
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Feb 5 2007, 01:42 PM
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You could live with batteries for the distortion pedals, but I would recommend having a power adapter for time-based pedals such as delay, chorus etc. Those suck up a lot of power. If you plan to invest in more pedals, getting a good adapter might be a good idea, you can always make your own power adapter splitter so that you can use that adapter to power up more than 1 pedal. But do make sure that your total current drawn doesn't exceed the rated amount.
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silbii
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Feb 5 2007, 04:29 PM
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Use power dapters lah...chuck those batteries...hehe
Just checked - I-Spot power adapter to power a few multi-brand pedals (inc. boss of course!) rm95 at Guitar Store hartamas...looks sturdy enough.
Moen 5 point daisy chain cable - rm35 Guitar Store hartamas. Guitar store has been bringing in a lot of Moen stuff lately...pretty cool. This cable looks better than the expensive boss or ibanez daisy chain cables that i have...and for very cheaper price...
And the Boss daisy chain is even worse, unlike the Ibanez cable - both ends are only male ends...coz it's made only to be powered up with it's own power supply pedal (lucky i made a diy male-to-female end converter to rectify this problem)...now working perfectly with my ageing Boss psa adapter...
or you can wait for the upcoming Behringer pedalcase which can fit up to 12 pedals...power supply provided....GASing for this really!
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TSzeroglyph
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Feb 5 2007, 05:08 PM
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thanks for the info on the adapter. i'll definately check it out. i'm only using MT-2 and Behringer HB-01 wah, so no need advance chaining  .
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sean392
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Feb 5 2007, 11:43 PM
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i use an adapter my dad brought back from office  with daisy chain XD lol
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seongkeat
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Feb 6 2007, 03:24 AM
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i m using Dunlop Dc Brick to power up all my pedal.... I am Happy with it !! It wont go the wrong way !! This post has been edited by seongkeat: Feb 6 2007, 03:24 AM
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