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rockstar teddy
post Mar 20 2007, 10:56 AM

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my fren i spore told me that
whole of spore island has wifi..cz using wimax protocol
those with a/b/g stil can use but onli at lower speeds..
how wants wimax have to pay..but its quite cheap over there lo
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post Mar 20 2007, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(rockstar teddy @ Mar 20 2007, 10:56 AM)
my fren i spore told me that
whole of spore island has wifi..cz using wimax protocol
those with a/b/g stil can use but onli at lower speeds..
how wants wimax have to pay..but its quite cheap over there lo
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in Singapore National Library they have FREE wifi ah!
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post Mar 20 2007, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(jong52yuara @ Mar 20 2007, 12:12 PM)
in Singapore National Library they have FREE wifi ah!
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LOL, we have free WiFi @ Starbucks !! tongue.gif

I wonder how many broadcasting towers they need in Singapore for nationwide coverage. laugh.gif

Their cable/ADSL broadband is so fast already, somemore got WiMAX now ?
Jealous siot. cry.gif
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post Mar 20 2007, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(jong52yuara @ Mar 20 2007, 12:12 PM)
in Singapore National Library they have FREE wifi ah!
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Not just at the library, in most highly-trafficed public areas.

http://www.ida.gov.sg/Programmes/20061027174147.aspx

900 hotspots when the programme started at the end of 2006, planning on 5000 by the end of next year.

But yes, we do have free wifi at Starbucks. And it does seem like there are 5000 Starbucks in KL.
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post Mar 20 2007, 03:11 PM

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where to subscribe wimax in malaysia ar? have anybody here used wimax already?
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post Mar 20 2007, 03:41 PM

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bE PATIENT, when the time come, those WimaX ISP will tell u even u don wanna hear
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post Mar 20 2007, 06:42 PM

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singapore is only a dot in the world map 692.7 sq km as 4 us is 329,750 sq km ... so no need so many BTS lor ... as for us in Malaysia ... wait & see 4 sure backbone & international link will b shared like today .... speed well they will put ratio on the radio vs user ... so for sure gonna b best effort icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Mar 20 2007, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(IntegraTypeR @ Mar 20 2007, 12:35 PM)
LOL, we have free WiFi @ Starbucks !!  tongue.gif

I wonder how many broadcasting towers they need in Singapore for nationwide coverage.  laugh.gif

Their cable/ADSL broadband is so fast already, somemore got WiMAX now ?
Jealous siot.  cry.gif
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Coffee Beans also offer free wifi. Your dumb neighbour also provides free wifi. Alot free wifi in Malaysia already. So, if these companies wanna charge for Wimax - ppl will think twice to subscribe. Unless those ppl don't have wired broadband at all or think wireless broadband such as Wimax is far superior than wired one. Or for those that not static at all - love to roam everyday as if they don't have a home to live.

So, these 4 companies have tough job to convince consumers to subscribe. They have even more headache If wired broadband providers such as tmnet and penangfon slash their price or provide higher speed for the same price. Those with solid financial backings and stamina will survive - if not then ready to sell the license to the Big 3 or sell to foreign operators which may irk the gomen. Good money selling license.. drool.gif
rockstar teddy
post Mar 21 2007, 09:38 AM

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they give free up to certain speeds..but wen u wan2use Wimax full speeds den you have to pay ma..
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post Mar 21 2007, 09:53 AM

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PLs, when is Wifi at Starbucks ever free? It costs you a cuppa unless you are freeloading using some Wifi extender tongue.gif
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post Mar 21 2007, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(ManoWar @ Mar 20 2007, 03:11 PM)
where to subscribe wimax in malaysia ar? have anybody here used wimax already?
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yeah, already have this service notworthy.gif
try to visit here for more info
http://www.airzed.com/wimax/wm_plans.aspx

but too expensive RM188 per month vmad.gif

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post Mar 21 2007, 10:59 AM

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get in down the price, get the license want to kill all malaysian. want profit, no good...

the price should be RM60.

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rockstar teddy
post Mar 21 2007, 11:00 AM

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haih..so much debate but no news yet..wat2do..poor us consumer..
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post Mar 21 2007, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(chooncc @ Mar 21 2007, 10:59 AM)
get in down the price, get the license want to kill all malaysian. want profit, no good...

the price should be RM60.
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unlikely, if the price is RM60, then tm's streamyx is going to............. brows.gif
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post Mar 21 2007, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(killerdawg @ Mar 21 2007, 09:53 AM)
PLs, when is Wifi at Starbucks ever free? It costs you a cuppa unless you are freeloading using some Wifi extender tongue.gif
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this not true wimax, my company use it... airzed using antenna and install into your premis... their transmitter at menara meraih ss19 pj..... true wimax using wifi card a/b/g....looooo...!

p/s: airzed control bandwith using packeteer packetshaper.....p2p very damme slow...! vmad.gif
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QUOTE(asiatrader98 @ Mar 21 2007, 11:45 AM)
unlikely, if the price is RM60, then tm's streamyx is going to............. brows.gif
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but...

that's what WE ALL wants right??? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

(hope no tmnut agents are viewing this)

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post Mar 21 2007, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(stan16 @ Mar 21 2007, 01:46 PM)
but...

that's what WE ALL wants right???  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

(hope no tmnut agents are viewing this)
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brows.gif brows.gif shocking.gif


another wimax company
http://www.packet-1.com/technology/products.htm
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post Mar 21 2007, 03:16 PM

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Jaring CEO talking about WIMAX

http://www.jaring.my/ceo/index.html?cont=190307_wimax
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post Mar 21 2007, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(emkay_sun @ Mar 21 2007, 01:19 PM)
this not true wimax, my company use it... airzed using antenna and install into your premis... their transmitter at menara meraih ss19 pj..... true wimax using wifi card a/b/g....looooo...!

p/s: airzed control bandwith using packeteer packetshaper.....p2p very damme slow...!  vmad.gif
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True wimax is not compatible with WiFi, dont give out wrong msg
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post Mar 21 2007, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(aneip @ Mar 21 2007, 03:16 PM)
Hmm a bring back to earth article written by internet Father of Malaysia. Quite intrested on JARING's to bounce back with WiMAX together with SOMA? ( http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=117293 ).

BTW, I include the article for the reading below :

Towards WiMax

At last the government finally announced the "winners" of the so called WiMax spectrum tender on 16 Mar 2007. Three companies are given 30 MHz each of the 2.3 GHz spectrum. The other one is given with only 25 MHz to operate in Sabah and Sarawak as the spectrum is limited to 100 MHz only. There are not enough channels for four operators to operate at the same place without radio signal interferences.

The four now join the other companies who have been allocated 2.5 GHz spectrum which can also be used for WiMax. For 2.5 GHz spectrum, the total available frequency is 184 MHz which enables six operators to be allocated with 30 MHz each.

With this latest development, we may eventually have ten (10) WiMax operators in Malaysia. There will be plenty of choices for customers. This reminds me of the old mobile days when there were about ten mobile phone companies trying to start the service and get their market shares. At the end of the day only three survived. Are we going to see similar situation with WiMax operators? It may or may not happen. Only time will tell.

Any radio signal, including WiMax is subject to the same law of physics. It will get absorbed by water (in leaves of trees) and walls. It will be reflected by certain surfaces such as concrete wall. It suffers energy loss as it passes through the air or reflected by some objects in its path - lowering capacity with distance. There are so many factors to consider, which will affect the overall performance. Every geographic locality will be different. Hence, radio frequency analysis has to be made at every location. The advantage of WiMax compared to WiFi is that it can transmit higher power signal (due to licence spectrum) and can reach longer distance. As the distance increases, the required number of BTS will be reduced (for the same size of coverage area) and the cost of providing backhaul bandwidth gets lower. However, there is always a trade off between capacity and coverage.

Till these days, hype on WiMax is never ending. I still see media reports promising 50 Mbps bandwidth for up to 70 km radius of coverage. Such performance may be possible only if there is only one user using a WiMax base station which is going to be a very expensive proposition! WiMax cannot solve all broadband problems. There are limits of what it can do. If we can get to share 20 Mbps within up to two km radius, we should be ecstatic. With such performance, to provide 20% of coverage for the whole of Malaysia (with a total land area of 330,000 sq km) it would require at least 5,000 base transmission stations (BTS). If a BTS only manages to provide good coverage within one km radius, the figure would increase to a staggering 20,000 BTS. Assuming 10,000 BTS are required and each one would cost RM 250,000, the total investment would be RM 2.5 bil (excluding the end-user devices and civil works)! With a possibility of 2 mil subscribers, the cost per subscriber would be RM 1,250. But the margin of error in the number of BTS could be as high as 100%. [Note: The above figures are for illustration only.]. Does this make sense? I leave it to the readers to ponder.

Is there any certified WiMax product today? There are actually two types of WiMax. For fixed broadband (based on IEEE 802.16d-2004 standard) and for mobile broadband (based on IEEE 802.16e-2005 standard). So far only 12 manufactures with 28 fixed WiMax products have been certified by WiMax Forum. All of them are using 3.5 GHz spectrum. According to WiMax Forum, the mobile WiMax products are expected to get certification by mid-2007. Hence, no one has any certified mobile WiMax products today although some people claim to have pre-WiMax or Wi-Max-ready products. Whatever it is, WiMax interoperability tests are still on-going. I understand that some products have successfully been tested.

As for JARING, we do have 2.5 GHz spectrum which is currently being used for our wireless broadband services (JARING Flite Wireless) in Klang Valley. We believe it is the biggest such live service in Malaysia today. This system will be upgraded to mobile WiMax as soon as the product is certified. It will then be expanded and can be rolled out anywhere in the country. We look forward to serve the real WiMax to our subscribers.

---mal
Dr Mohamed b. Awang Lah (mal@jaring.my)
Chief Executive Officer
JARING Communications Sdn Bhd

19 March 2007


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