Hey Guys , I'm from Cheras ...
I have a severe underbite, Since I don't know anything about jaw surgery, I went to an orthodontist for consultation (imperial Dentist In Bangsar) fee for consultation damn mahal.Jilake
The Doctor told me the procedure to undergo a surgery, the estimation price , the only thing that makes me pening is that they need to cooperate with another hospital that can perform the surgery ,because they only can do the pre-surgical Braces (compulsory according to the dentist)

So The Question I wanted to ask:

A) How Much Is the Cost
B) Is It Claimable from Insurance
C) Do I Need To Put On Pre-Surgical Braces (if do, pls Recommend Any Hospital That Can Do Both Surgery And Braces)
D) Which is the best hospital for maxillofacial surgery

Hope Any Experts Or Experienced Patient can help me out

This post has been edited by MRtoy: Oct 5 2016, 01:40 PM

Oh My god Really?!?
because I've read a blog of a person that went through a jaw surgery(success) .... he went there for pre-surgical braces

15 years ago i was quoted more than 10 k for the surgery, not sure about now

The Orthodontist Just Gave Me An Estimation Price
(First time came 30k till 40k .2nd time 60k).

This post has been edited by MRtoy: Oct 17 2019, 11:03 PM

Since there's no one able to share their experience ...i'll share my own journey here...currently im removing my left wisdom tooth for pre braces in hukm bandar tun razak..

I think you can try government hospital..

Hi can I know which doc attend to you at hukm? Private or public wing? I need one too.

I've known a few who underwent mandibular set back (bilateral saggital split ostetomy), ended up with bigger problems like asymetry etc etc.

Your money would be best spent in Singapore. Dr Winston Tan is the man to go for. I can vouch for him as I've seen him do magic.

I haven't come across anyone like you tho. Do update here.

There's one oral surgeon here where you can see from the
LDP, near Groway, everytime you drive past.

Seems to have a good review.

https://foursquare.com/v/ng-oral-clinic--de...8e9224b6ec1463d

Hi Nick Sorry for the late reply... i've set an appointment with Prof Nazimi. He consult me regarding my situation about an hour and a half & even quote me a price for the whole procedure, a friendly guy too. It's a Private Wing btw, 7th floor if im not mistaken.

Actually, Maxillofacial surgery is quite common in Malaysia , It just that the patients are too embarrassed to share their situations and experience due to our society mindset still thinks altering our physical appearances are unacceptable even if we have complication in functioning it. They will still think it's solely for the sake of cosmetic even after explaining it (I know I've been through it all)

SHOUT OUT TO MALAYSIAN SURGEON!!

10th July 2017

Situation: SEVERE UNDERJAW

So, basically what I've been through are

25th October 2016-Took a consultation from an expert(Prof Nazimi From HUKM Private Sector) in

30th October 2016 -Prof Nazimi Decided to have a join clinic with Klinik Pakar Orthodontics In KL since i need Pre-Braces to align my teeth to avoid complication during surgery & Post-Braces

15th November 2016 - Removed My left wisdom tooth for braces (SAKIT WOI)

18th December 2016 - Removed My right wisdom tooth for braces.(Removed In HUKM Bandar Tun Razak) murah je RM 25 for each teeth, sebab tak ambik medication.

3rd January 2017 - Consultation by the orthodontics, they took my facial X-ray and my teeth impression( the worst 6 minutes of my life) The total cost for the braces is 3k, I deposit 2k first and pay monthly 100 during appointment for tightening it

20th February 2017 - Got My Braces on,the process took about 30 minutes. Got excited after put it on (macam hipster weyh), THEN the pain kicks in. 2 minggu makan bubur McD.

11th July 2017 - Fourth Appointment With My Orto (Dr. Mushida), the doctor estimate im ready for surgery 6 months from now.

CHEERS

Mine is Dr. Rama. Doing my procedure soon. Wish me luck

Hi, have you done your surgery with Dr. Rama? Would you mind to share your experience with it? How much does it cost?

Hi, have you done your surgery at UKM Specialist Center? Would you mind to share your experience with it? How much does it cost?

Operation-8-9k

Operation was 2-3 hours. Stayed for 4 days.

He ahh ok la . Friendly guy..

Not sure if my procedure is same as your case

What is ur condition ya? How long does it take for you to get back to work? I have a severe underbite. Will be doing my surgery soon too with Dr Rama. 😊

Dentigerous cyst. Not sure if that how u spell it.

Face swollen for 1-2 weeks

MC for 2 weeks

Not much pain . They gave pain killer. If I remembered correctly.

Well all the best.

Nothing much at hukm

Hi do you mind tell me the best maxillofacial doctor in malaysia? Thankyou

How serious is your under bite? i had underbite issue, i was told the same as your orthodontist told you. Braces > Surgery > Braces (3 process) was quote around 60k+- all in.
But i did not go for the surgery, only braces but they did remove 2 of my teeth and my wisdom tooth and slowly adjusted (take 5 years to complete my braces) no more underbites issue after my braces..

hi, mine is Dr Rama too. my surgery will be this Oct 2019. just cant wait.

Why cant wait.

What's your problem? All the best

tak sabar. macam nak surgery esok je.
mine, receding chin, gummy smile and breathing issue.
btw how's your recovery process? oh ya since you buat tempat yang sama dengan i,
nak tahu did they provide any surgical jaw bras?
i tanya yang buat dkt hospital selayang they said not provided.

I just had an orthognathic(double jaw) surgery on the 24th fo sept.

I'm not sure if he's the best or what so, but I highly recommend Prof. Zainal Ariff at UMSC. My recovery went almost as twice as fast as a normal rate. I've already started chewing on my 7th day when it typically takes 2-3 weeks.

Hi.. How much does it cost for the surgery?
Does it take long from consultation to surgery?
I'm looking for options. Thx

Hi,

The Total cost of my surgery is RM 9000 (not inlcuded braces)

I took the first consultation when i first post about this topic and i just had my surgery on 9th October 2019.

I really recommend HUKM though. you can always just book an appointment for the consultation.

UPDATE 15th OCTOBER 2019

Post Operation Day 6

*Operation went smoothly Alhamdulillah , thank you to the doctors and nurses whom professionally and patiently took care of me.

*Discharged on the 3rd Day btw,

*Face swelling terribly and numb.

*still on liquid diet

Is HUKM private wing right?

Mind sharing with me on how to book the appointment for consultation when you get better?
I tried looking at their website, couldn't seems to find the info.

Thx

I just directly make the call and asked regarding for maxillofacial surgery, they'll gladly book an appointment for you to meetup with the specialist

They'll handle all the join clinics aswell (Braces)

Hi may i know if mild underbite can go for surgery? and current im wearing braces right now (but not for surgery purpose) only for teeth alignment as i was told that my jaw could be aligned only with braces and i thought wrong. And im so frustrated about that i wanna go for surgery (eventhough i had spent many on braces)

I guess diff hospital have diff procedure, but my Dr. already told me to eat bubur on my 2nd day. And to start chew slowly on my 7th day...

Since mine is in a private hospital, it cost way more then HUKM, the total cost for my surgery is RM52k, Thankfully, my insurance covers the cost.

The consultation are a bit long since the orthodontist needs to prepare your teeth to get as accurate as possible on the surgery. I wore braces for 15months before my surgery date.

Though, a piece of advice from me. For the surgery, ask your dr, don't rely on blog post or someone on the internet. Cause every surgeon has their own way. Pretty much every post about recovery I've read is very untrue.

Hi, do u mind to share more bout ur after surgery?
1, I gt fren did surgery in Malaysia n after anesthesia gone n feel very very pain... N I also gt fren did in Thailand n Korea but after anesthesia gone,.. Dint feel pain... So how bout u after ur surgery?

2, I've servay n search all info n compare for the price.... Korea, Thailand n Taiwan.... All at least USD20K and above, it depends every person conditionafter consult n 3D scan...

3, my situation is my jaw gt clicking sound when I open my mouth, asymmetry face and teeth... Asymmetry face very obvious on me... I tried massage... But can't help til I really fed up... The only way can correct it is by surgery... But as I mentioned just now.... Very very expensive...

4, do Any1 know how often HUKM there do this kind of surgery? And any doctor than can recommend to me?

Insurance cover?? Do u mind to share which insurance company? Under medical card or??

Just a minor update for people whos interested in jaw surgery recovery, It's been 5 weeks since my surgery, I've pretty much can eat anything now, even burger lab. Still struggles but not that bad. I will be removing my braces next week.

1. From what I knew, pain after anesthesia are vary form person to person. But in my personal experience, it is a bit painful right after I woke up. The pain quickly goes away when the nurse gave you pain killer injection.

2. I'm no sure about pricing in general since I wasn't concern about it much. But my total quoted cost is RM52k, for double jaw orthognathic surgery and chin implant surgery.

3. Sometimes, overbite/underbite can be fixed by just braces. In general, I have an overbite and misaligned jaw. of course with misaligned jaw my face is no symmetrical. clicking jaw aren't a 100% sure will go away with orthognathic surgery since that's more of a TMJ problem. In my case, my TMJ problem does get better after surgery but it's still there.

4. I did my surgery on UMSC, like I said on previous comment, If price isn't a problem for you I really recommend Prof. Zainal Ariff. Idk about other doctors.

I'm not really sure about this since my mom handles it. For my surgery, RM40k is covered by a guarantee letter from my mom's workplace. The remaining 12k is covered by prudential insurance.

I did my surgery in May 2019 @ HKL (Dr. Lee)
- Surgery was alright
- but the result wasn't satisfying as the surgeon decided to upper jaw alone when it was supposed to be both upper and lower (initial place with surgeon and orthodontist)
- recovery wasn't bad, smooth
- the whole process took me 2 years (including braces and surgery) - since both under Gov.

Post Surgery:
- now im getting breathing difficulties.
- getting nose blocked on side. used to be at night only but lately its getting bad to worse.
- orthodontist suggesting to go for another surgery with diff surgeon (to correct both upper and lower and to fix breathing problem)

Confused:
- if i should go to GH or Private. i
- dont mind private IF it covers everything under medical card and if they can do a proper job


>> Can anyone advice me on this.

Hi there, i had my jaw surgery on dec 18 at HUKM. i'm wired shut and still on liquid diet. Swelling and numb at my chin and lower lips still bad.. I'm looks like watermelon now.. How's your recovery? Still swelling and numb? I'm lazy to sleep upright..

Hi mubin,

Seriosuly prudential insurance covered your surgery?,I did ask my insurance agent but why they said prudential can't cover for my surgery.. So sad. I've spent almost RM11k for plate, screw and hospitality. Thats weird..

Today is my 3rd week of post ops, underbite correction. I realise my bracket is falling off and the braces is shaking. However, I can’t open my mouth widely as per normal, Max capacity: 1 finger. Is it advisable to see orthodontist now?

I guess, thats normal. Even when i having my wisdom teeth removal, i can't open my mouth widely. It takes time. You can do jaw exercise.

If you feel insecure about your bracket then shouldn't be a problem see your ortho.

I guess, thats normal. Even when i having my wisdom teeth removal, i can't open my mouth widely. It takes time. You can do jaw exercise.

If you feel insecure about your bracket then shouldn't be a problem see your ortho.

Hi Wawawi,

Your RM11k included pre-surgical preparations like braces/implant? May i know who is your doctor for your surgery?

Thanks.

Anyone did single jaw surgery only? How much does it cost in private hospital?

Hello everyone, I will have my surgery at the end of this year in PPUM but I am wondering, how successful is maxillofacial jaw surgery? also for underbite surgery?

and, is it worth it? like can you see the difference after the surgery? how much different?

Depends on your reason. For appearance, I'm not so sure. but for jaw pain or difficulty of eating, then a big YES.

In general, the major difference to me after the surgery is mainly my eating habits. It's much easier to eat nowadays. I can freaking bite a burger now and it actually cuts.

In term of my appearance, yes I do see quite a lot of difference. Since I used to have an overbite and an uneven jaw, my face looks long and I tend to subconsciously smirk a lot(in a bad way). But now I would say my face looks even and normal. My smile looks normal now and I can smile without being paranoid about how I look. Since my surgery, people I'm close with tend to not recognise me at first, but people that I'm not that close with does recognise me.

Recovery can be very diff from person to person, Like 70% of things I found on the internet doesn't occur to me which is why your Dr will always advise you to not read about the surgery on the internet.

Can you share which doctor that will do surgery for u at PPUM ? because my son also will start to do the braces at next week and after 3 year will go for surgery also at PPUM.

Does the price vary from case to case? I'm an expat, it seems to me getting it here in Malaysia is cheaper if not done in private institutions, but im not sure if Malaysian Government have extra charges for foreigners, or if foreigners can actually avail jaw surgery in government hospitals. Also it seems that the hospitals mentioned in this thread are all somewhere near if not on KL itself. Is there any government hospital that does jaw surgery near Penang?

For a foreigner?
You're gonna be placed dead last on the list if you're not an "emergency" case for government institutions even if you get one. Why bother?
Considering with the current pandemic going on, elective treatments are not prioritized.

The term "cheaper" only applies if you're a citizen that is in dire need of surgery to correct the impairment with no or meager means to pay for it. So definitely expect a far different pricing compared to the locals.

This post has been edited by dark_axl21: Sep 10 2020, 05:17 AM

anyone else who had their procedure done by Dr Rama, would you be so kind to share your experience? Like timeline, fees and whether you had any permanent numbness, asymmetrical face, etc

i'd appreciate it! thanks a lot!

-There’s no setbacks at all for me. But keep in mind the results may vary for every patient.

-It took me 8 months to fully recover, total fees including braces is exactly 16k.

- I had the longest numbness on my upper lips but nothing permanent.

-A little Asymmetrical face is quite normal for a human being.

- The screws on your jaw has a high chance of infection if you eat solid foods before fully recover.

Hi Mr.Toy, Fully recovered means 8 months? You were on liquid diet for 8 months?

How long did you do your pre surgical braces?

Sorry for digging out old thread but currently i'm facing kinda same situation as yours where i have cyst underneath my molars (big tooth) behind which pressure down my wisdom tooth.

Not sure how long it developed d but i first noticed my jaw has this minor bony protrusion (and did not seek for dentist check) and seek for general doc roughly 3 years ago.
The general doc done me X-ray and CT scanning but did not notice any abnormal.

Between these 3 years i also done some oral and tooth checking with x-ray but non of the doc realised

Time forward to last month when i went for dentist to fix my upper molar, the doc (differ with previous) done another round of x-ray & saw there is this big black zone above my left wisdom tooth which now she refer me to gov hospital.

Whole the while i don't really feel anything actually.
But this week starting to like feel minor pain or some weird feeling - not sure is it due to stress
Next week will back to GH and consult again for surgeric appointment.

May i know that how you find out yours and was it big?
My case seems to be big and GH doc says my jaw has weakened and might facing fracture during operation. i might also need to remove two of my molars in order to access the cyst as well as wisdom tooth below it.