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mxsteven
post Apr 26 2012, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(shaunk86 @ Apr 25 2012, 10:02 PM)
Thx smile.gif Came accross this GPS module Columbus V-800 USB GPS Receiver (66 ch, MTK2, WAAS, 5Hz), looks like a bargain.. 5ghz, WAAS..
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kewl GPS... thanks for sharing... im gettin it hehehehe
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post Apr 26 2012, 07:02 AM

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QUOTE(droll @ Apr 26 2012, 03:08 AM)
hi folks. i am thinking of building my own car pc. i have some experience assembling pcs and no issues with software (work in IT industry). my problem is the car hardware part. things like how to hook up the audio to car speakers? how to connect reverse camera and have it activate when reversing? wiring?!?! how to wire gps and where to put it etc. how to connect the car's obdii port? where to put microphone - can it be built into the 2din chassis?? etc

my goals are
1. hv the unit look as oem as possible. i.e. i dont want unsightly wires sticking out here and there.
2. ideally everything encased in a nice 2-din chassis because i can transfer it to another car in the future if i sell my ride.
help?!?!
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you need power amps to power the speakers.. and use stereo jacks to RCA.
Reverse camera either u use software or get a monitor with reverse camera output where it is actually more expensive.
GPS is via USB.
OBD2 port depends on software and your vehicle... if you are ridin a proton... forget about OBD2 because they are not OBD2 protocol except Persona.


Added on April 26, 2012, 8:51 amOhh... no need i edi have GM2 GPS where it is much better lols.... you can hack and program it to support 5hz and military spec accuracy. Just follow my settings below.

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Becareful when you program it, be patient and wait for the message, dont pull the cable when flashing it, this will kill the GPS. Always remember the data that you flash especially the baudrate. Follow my baudrate that i set because this is the max that Garmin can support.

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Believe it or not how powerful is this stuff... i can even receive GPS indoor.

I bought This GPS from Ebay Digigomart .... if not mistaken it cost just USD30 + shipping fee.

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post Apr 26 2012, 10:24 AM

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where do you place the GPS receiver? i want to hide it from view if possible. but from what i gather, it looks like i can't put everything in a single 2-din casing. with the power amp, i need to mount this somewhere else in the car, yes?

reverse camera - it's not possible to have this integrated into the LCD touch screen of the car PC? reverse cam is no big deal for me, i'm willing to give it up as i think it's nice to have but since i've been doing reversing all these years the manual way, i'm ok.

key thing is portability as i mentioned. i want to be able to remove it in an integrated unit and place it in my next car. gotta go dig more ...
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post Apr 26 2012, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Apr 26 2012, 07:02 AM)
you need power amps to power the speakers.. and use stereo jacks to RCA.
Reverse camera either u use software or get a monitor with reverse camera output where it is actually more expensive.
GPS is via USB.
OBD2 port depends on software and your vehicle... if you are ridin a proton... forget about OBD2 because they are not OBD2 protocol except Persona.


Added on April 26, 2012, 8:51 amOhh... no need i edi have GM2 GPS where it is much better lols.... you can hack and program it to support 5hz and military spec accuracy. Just follow my settings below.

user posted image

Becareful when you program it, be patient and wait for the message, dont pull the cable when flashing it, this will kill the GPS. Always remember the data that you flash especially the baudrate. Follow my baudrate that i set because this is the max that Garmin can support.

user posted image

user posted image
Believe it or not how powerful is this stuff... i can even receive GPS indoor.

I bought This GPS from Ebay Digigomart .... if not mistaken it cost just USD30 + shipping fee.

user posted image

user posted image
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Bro, so tis GPS unit ok?
I wana buy tis one, haha
shaunk86
post Apr 26 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(droll @ Apr 26 2012, 10:24 AM)
where do you place the GPS receiver? i want to hide it from view if possible. but from what i gather, it looks like i can't put everything in a single 2-din casing. with the power amp, i need to mount this somewhere else in the car, yes?

reverse camera - it's not possible to have this integrated into the LCD touch screen of the car PC? reverse cam is no big deal for me, i'm willing to give it up as i think it's nice to have but since i've been doing reversing all these years the manual way, i'm ok.

key thing is portability as i mentioned. i want to be able to remove it in an integrated unit and place it in my next car. gotta go dig more ...
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It is possible to integrate everything into a 2 din casing just there might b some heat issue. There is this Bybyte mini itx double din casing and an internal 2 channel amplifier available from mp3car.com store but price seem to be on the high side. This setup is only good if you plan on using back your factory speakers for audio.

Separate placement for everything does have same advantages.. My car was broke into and my touchscreen lcd and wireless keyboard was stolen. Luckly is just the Lcd that is gone.. My cpu is safely in my boot.

As for the gps placement, best if place on dashboard or maybe stick it on your windshield behind your rear view mirror. ..i hide mine under my dashboard.. Signal albit weaker, sometimes cannot get lock on from cold start. But im using the cheap china gps module la.. Those SiRFstarIII chipset without internal battery ones.


Added on April 26, 2012, 11:20 amPlaning to revive my carPc. Came across this 7" Touch Screen LCD. It has everything! HDMI, LED backlight, comes with an battery adaptor, Samsung panel, reverse camera trigger..etc etc. Price is reasonable too..what say you. smile.gif

Bro mxsteven, do you use mic for your carPc for calls and voice command? What kind of mic are you using? Im using those normal pc mic but whenever im on handsfree, ppl from the other end always complain about the echo.. sad.gif

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post Apr 26 2012, 11:41 AM

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yes, i have been worried about heat. i've seen the MTBF for the separate units like CPU, motherboard, etc. and they seem pretty reasonable. however, some of them are in the range of 50-55 degrees celcius for about 100,000 hours. in a 2-din casing, i have a funny feeling it might get a bit hotter than that when parked under the hot sun and immediately turning on the carpc and doing some heavy processing.

hmmmmmmm.......so mounting it in the boot is still better huh? means i gotta go to some car accessories shop and have them do the wiring for me. that's the part i takut. they don't know anything about carpc and i don't know how to bridge the gap. like duck and chicken!


Added on April 26, 2012, 11:52 ambtw, what would you recommend for touch screen LCD?

has to be sunlight readable i guess given our hot and sunny weather.
7"

i've seen some people buying the LCD screens then taking them apart and mounting them onto fabricated 2DIN enclosures. this is too much work for me (don't have the expertise to fabricate these things).

are there pre-made ones? i saw somewhere that lilliput LCDs aren't that great.

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post Apr 26 2012, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(droll @ Apr 26 2012, 11:41 AM)
yes, i have been worried about heat. i've seen the MTBF for the separate units like CPU, motherboard, etc. and they seem pretty reasonable. however, some of them are in the range of 50-55 degrees celcius for about 100,000 hours. in a 2-din casing, i have a funny feeling it might get a bit hotter than that when parked under the hot sun and immediately turning on the carpc and doing some heavy processing.

hmmmmmmm.......so mounting it in the boot is still better huh? means i gotta go to some car accessories shop and have them do the wiring for me. that's the part i takut. they don't know anything about carpc and i don't know how to bridge the gap. like duck and chicken!


Added on April 26, 2012, 11:52 ambtw, what would you recommend for touch screen LCD?

has to be sunlight readable i guess given our hot and sunny weather.
7"

i've seen some people buying the LCD screens then taking them apart and mounting them onto fabricated 2DIN enclosures. this is too much work for me (don't have the expertise to fabricate these things).

are there pre-made ones? i saw somewhere that lilliput LCDs aren't that great.
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Haha! Em.. Maybe you can draw out the diagram for them to lay down the cables smile.gif power cables go by the door sill, audio,visual, signal cable go through the transmission channel for the shortest possible route and to eliminate possible electrical noise.

I use to hav a lilliput Lcd with led backlight, not those high brightness unit. Screen is readable under the sun. I think the main issue is the angle of the Lcd. Mine is mounted almost 90' stright so there is minimal glare even under the sun. Cars like honda stream, vios will hav a dashboard with slight tilting angle Upwards so there will be glare and the screen is harder to see. I face some touchscreen issue with my lilliput whereby some spot of the screen can't register touch input n the pointer keeps go back to a specific spot sad.gif i would recomand the industrial grade touchscreen from bro mxsteven smile.gif or you can get those single din slide out touchscreen lcd ..but those are very expensive.

Im thinking of ordering myself one of these one or 2 weeks later.. Will let you know how it perform when i get it smile.gif
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post Apr 26 2012, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(shaunk86 @ Apr 26 2012, 11:06 AM)
It is possible to integrate everything into a 2 din casing just there might b some heat issue. There is this Bybyte mini itx double din casing and an internal 2 channel amplifier available from mp3car.com store but price seem to be on the high side. This setup is only good if you plan on using back your factory speakers for audio.

Separate placement for everything does have same advantages.. My car was broke into and my touchscreen lcd and wireless keyboard was stolen. Luckly is just the Lcd that is gone.. My cpu is safely in my boot.

As for the gps placement, best if place on dashboard or maybe stick it on your windshield behind your rear view mirror. ..i hide mine under my dashboard.. Signal albit weaker, sometimes cannot get lock on from cold start. But im using the cheap china gps module la.. Those SiRFstarIII chipset without internal battery ones.


Added on April 26, 2012, 11:20 amPlaning to revive my carPc. Came across this 7" Touch Screen LCD. It has everything! HDMI, LED backlight, comes with an battery adaptor, Samsung panel, reverse camera trigger..etc etc. Price is reasonable too..what say you.  smile.gif

Bro mxsteven, do you use mic for your carPc for calls and voice command? What kind of mic are you using? Im using those normal pc mic but whenever im on handsfree, ppl from the other end always complain about the echo..  sad.gif
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Not bad the screen.... onlything that u need to test the reliability in the car... so far there is lotsa nice china products but i tested a lot kantoi... so i stick with the one that i have hahahaha

MIC... nope....
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post Apr 26 2012, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(shaunk86 @ Apr 26 2012, 12:30 PM)
Haha! Em.. Maybe you can draw out the diagram for them to lay down the cables  smile.gif  power cables go by the door sill, audio,visual, signal cable go through the transmission channel for the shortest possible route and to eliminate possible electrical noise.

I use to hav a lilliput Lcd with led backlight, not those high brightness unit. Screen is readable under the sun. I think the main issue is the angle of the Lcd. Mine is mounted almost 90' stright  so there is minimal glare even under the sun. Cars like honda stream, vios will hav a dashboard with slight tilting angle Upwards so there will be glare and the screen is harder to see. I face some touchscreen issue with my lilliput whereby some spot of the screen can't register touch input n the pointer keeps go back to a specific spot sad.gif i would recomand the industrial grade touchscreen from bro mxsteven smile.gif or you can get those single din slide out touchscreen lcd ..but those are very expensive.

Im thinking of ordering myself one of these one or 2 weeks later.. Will let you know how it perform when i get it  smile.gif
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thanks for the info. my dashboard where the existing headunit is mounted is angled slightly upwards so there might be some glare. the backlight is a must. i hate touchscreens that don't respond properly. do let me know about how those screens work out if you get them.

thanks!
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post Apr 27 2012, 12:36 AM

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jz came across with tis tablet pc car mount thingy..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-Tablet-PC-GPS-Na...ht_12372wt_1037

otai-otai here, any comment regarding this item? smile.gif
i was finding a mounting or bracket to locate my monitor on top of my car dashboard..
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post May 3 2012, 06:35 PM

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so what mobo and CPU would you guys recommend for starters?? also, can i draw power from 12V socket (i have one in my car's boot)? i've seen this -> http://store.mp3car.com/M2_ATX_160W_Intell...U_p/pwr-015.htm

is it sufficient to power the car PC and all peripherals connected to the car pc?

motherboards have a pin + connector for the on/off switch on the casing. do i connect the m2atx directly to this thereby rendering the on/off switch useless?


Added on May 3, 2012, 6:41 pmok with this http://store.mp3car.com/M3_ATX_125_Watt_Sm...y_p/pwr-029.htm i can see how it hooks up on the mobo and i see cables to the mobo's on/off switch so i understand it. but where does it hook up to the car? i saw 3 wires (+, -, and ground). are these to be spliced into a 12v socket?

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post May 4 2012, 11:23 AM

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Those 3 wires are +12v, Ground and ignition. You need to chk if your car will cut the power to all accessorises including the 12v socket when cranking your engine. If it does and you connect your pc to that socket, your pc will reboot everytime you start your engine. It is advisable to connect the 12v stright to the car battery with a fuse in between. The Ignition lead you can tap in to your 12v socket assuming your 12v socket will power on and off with your keys. I tap my ignition wire to my headunit's ignition wire.
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post May 4 2012, 07:00 PM

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ok i think i understand a bit better now. thanks.
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post May 4 2012, 11:08 PM

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5 units of LED panel monitor arrive nex week


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post May 5 2012, 01:26 PM

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Bro, what are the specs for the LED panel? Size, inputs, resolution, reverse cam trigger?
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post May 5 2012, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(shaunk86 @ May 5 2012, 01:26 PM)
Bro, what are the specs for the LED panel? Size, inputs, resolution, reverse cam trigger?
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7" LED LCD, resolution 800x400 and can go up until 720p if not mistaken. 1 AV in. No reverse input... that reverse input board out of stock.

Left 2 units
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post Sep 24 2012, 01:32 AM

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Hi bro and sis & all carpc sifu.. biggrin.gif

Just sharing my carpc with my 200watt itps carpc psu biggrin.gif hope sifus and lyt member like it hehe biggrin.gif

My CarPc 9inch touchscreen monitor
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My messy cable CarPc biggrin.gif
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My CarPc GPS receiver for GarminPC
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My logitech wireless keyboard for my CarPc
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A little mod by me for my CarPc with Neon LED behind my CarPc motherboard
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I'm using this for my CarPc hehe biggrin.gif
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Million Thanks to MXSteven for your tips,advise and help notworthy.gif

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post Oct 22 2012, 11:20 PM

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Hi guys,

I am not sure whether there is already such thread, as I have search and found none relevant. If there is, pls do send me a link.

I would like to know, for those who have installed their touch screen head unit, china oem which runs on windows CE (WINCE), do you know which website online provides software updates or UI updates and tutorials?

I would like to know is there a way to update the music player UI which is linked to the DVD Rom itself, not so much on the general UI on the mainboard. I have updated the UI as a whole by the update file given by the seller, but the music player UI remains the old version, dull and limited.

Thanks for your help!

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2542087



I was referred to this forum by a forumer =) Btw, i have a software update file. Could email to those who have knowledge about this kinda stuff. Thx!

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