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johnlth93
post Oct 11 2016, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(Emimarson @ Oct 11 2016, 12:34 AM)
Join my tether group brows.gif
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post Oct 11 2016, 03:36 AM

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usb tether wifi tether make no different
they still detect NAT or whatever you want to call it and will present you with this page if isn't done correctly
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Let me quote this for general knowledge
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How they detect that someone is tethering a device isn't something that network providers often want to talk about, for the obvious reason that the more consumers know about how this is being detected, the easier it is for them to find ways to hide the fact that they're doing it, and avoid the associated extra charges (1). However there are certain known techniques that will give away the fact that you're currently tethering, if your Service Provider happens to be running the right tool to check for these indicators:

Your Phone asks your network if tethering is allowed

The first and easiest method is that some phones will query the network to check whether the current contract allows tethering, and then totally disable the tethering options on the device in software if not. This generally only happens if you are running an OS version that has been customized by your Provider, example 1 example 2.

Your phone tells your network that you are tethering

It's also rumoured that some phones have a second set of APN details saved in them by the phone network, when you enable tethering they switch over to using this second APN for all tethered traffic, while using the normal APN for traffic originating on the phone. However I haven't found any concrete evidence of this, other than people finding odd APNs and wondering what they're for (bear in mind that an unlocked phone bought off-contract may have hundreds or thousands of APNs stored on it, ready for use on whichever network in whichever country the eventual owner decides to use it).

Inspecting the network packets for their TTL (time to live)

Every network packet travelling across a TCP/IP network, like the internet, has a built-in time-to-live (TTL) set on it, so that in case there is a problem with that packet reaching its destination this will stop it travelling around the network forever clogging everything up.

The way this works is that the packet starts with a TTL number (say 128) set on it when it leaves the sending device (your phone, or laptop), and then every time that packet travels through a router of any kind (like your home broadband router, or a router at your ISP or phone company) that router subtracts one from the TTL (which would decrement the TTL to 127 in this example), the next router it travels through will in turn decrement the TTL again, and so on, if the TTL ever reaches zero then the router it's at discards the packet and doesn't transmit it again.

When your phone is tethering it acts like a router so, as the packet passes from your tethered laptop through your phone and onto the phone network, your phone will subtract "1" from the TTL to show that the packet has passed through its first router. The phone networks know what the expected TTLs from common devices are (for instance packets from an iPhone always start at a TTL of 64), and so they can spot when they're one less (or totally different) than they're expecting.

MAC address inspection

Devices on a TCP/IP network, like the internet, all have a unique MAC ID set on their network interfaces. This is made up of two halves, one half identifying the manufacturer of the interface, and the other half being a unique identifier assigned by the manufacturer (like a serial number). Every network packet that is sent out will have been "stamped" with the MAC address of the originating device's network port. The MAC address of your laptop's wifi card will have a very different manufacturer and serial code than the MAC address of your phone's 3G interface.

TCP/IP Stack Fingerprinting

Different computer Operating Systems (eg Android, iOS, Windows, Mac OSX, Linux, etc) set up their TCP/IP stacks with different default values and settings (eg the Initial Packet Size, Initial TTL, Window Size...). The combination of these values can give a "fingerprint" that can be used to identify what operating system is running on the originating device. A side-effect of this may mean that if you're using an uncommon OS, or an OS that's similar to your phone's on your other device, your tethering may not be spotted.

Looking at the Destination IP/URL

You can learn a lot by what a device regularly communicates with.

For instance, many OSs these days do Captive Portal Detection when they first connect to a wifi network (such as your wifi tether connection), they do this by trying to connect to a known web server across the internet, and checking to see if they get the response that they're expecting. If the expected response is not received, then it's likely that the wifi connection you're on is a "captive portal" and may need you to log in, or pay, to connect to it. As Microsoft OSs (like Windows Vista and Windows 7 check with a Microsoft server by default and other OSs like Android, MacOS and so on all connect to their parent company's servers to do these checks, it can be used as a good indication of the operating system just after the initial connection is made.

Additionally, if a device regularly contacts the Windows Update servers, then it's very likely that device is a Windows PC or laptop, whereas if it regularly checks with Google's Android update servers, then it's probably a phone. Or if they can see that you're connecting to the Apple App Store, but the IMEI of the device that your SIM card is in indicates that it's not an Apple device, maybe you're tethering an iPad to an Android phone?

More sophisticated systems can look at a whole range of data seeing who you're communicating with (eg are you connecting to the Facebook app's API servers which is more likely from a phone, or to Facebook's web servers which is more likely from a PC) and add a whole load of these indicators together to create a fingerprint that indicates what sort of device you're likely to be using. Some of these fingerprints can be caught out when new device types and services come out, for instance there are reports that just after tablets with built-in 3G came out, some owners of these on the AT&T network received mails warning them that they'd been tethering when they hadn't, as the fingerprint from this new style of device didn't look like a typical phone.

- from http://android.stackexchange.com/questions...cl-wifi-hotspot

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post Oct 11 2016, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Emimarson @ Oct 11 2016, 01:10 PM)
Let's say currently we are searching for a better method, we can save our time by confirming with members if the method doesn't work. Moreover, we can gather information on several paid version instead of one person spend money on several apps just to try wether it works.
No, only subscribers will be allowed to join.
Agree
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I hope you can verify that everyone is webe subscriber at least tongue.gif
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post Oct 11 2016, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Oct 11 2016, 04:49 PM)
I mean from Webe point of view, since I know I cant track teather from certain devices, I charge you an extra of $60 bucks be it you share or not share, but hope you pay their teather rates also.
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even if you use not-certified phone you also cant tether without some "work"

See https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry82055772
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post Oct 13 2016, 05:03 AM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Oct 13 2016, 12:54 AM)
While watching/streaming, you can also download more movies/tv series in the background using downloader app such as Advanced Download Manager Pro. This will "at least" double your usage...from 35GB to 70GB in 12 days. Better still, download those 720P/1080P quality...
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I've used over 50GB in like 2 days brows.gif
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post Oct 13 2016, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 13 2016, 10:39 AM)
Walao so much u use shocking.gif
What u download / streams brows.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 13 2016, 02:03 PM)
50GB is awesome
Btw, wat did u download?
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Mostly tv shows, 1 episode 700mb+
Games? Assassin creed 30gb+

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post Oct 13 2016, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(JJKTP @ Oct 13 2016, 05:07 PM)
What is the average speed for torrent?
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not sure, I don't torrent

But my area is very congested area
most of the time 3g wont work, 4g will only get 1 to 4mbps
Only midnight will get good speed, best speed I can get is around 10mbps
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post Oct 14 2016, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(liquidsny @ Oct 14 2016, 12:41 AM)
Sigh.. why redmi note 2 not in certified list
I dont want to buy new phone
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I am also note 2 user, it doesn't support LTE band 5 (850Mhz)
I doubt it will ever be in the certified list, I had to go buy another phone for this lol
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post Oct 14 2016, 04:42 AM

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QUOTE(okf987 @ Oct 14 2016, 04:40 AM)
What is the cheapest certified phone to buy just for webe?
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I believe I had posted in previous replied.

Cheapest I found is Lenovo P1m
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post Oct 14 2016, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Oct 14 2016, 06:19 AM)
no la, ZTE got the cheapest, try lelong, lazada etc
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How much? Because p1m can get for RM397 on gemfive
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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Oct 14 2016, 11:51 AM)
those who don't have certified phone can buy a cheap certified phone in the list for less than RM300
worth it if you pay the extra RM63.60 per month
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Which phone that was less then RM300?
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post Oct 14 2016, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Oct 14 2016, 12:07 PM)
buy that lenovo p1m
344 jer

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Man I only used 15% code, such as waste!
I bought this phone though biggrin.gif
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post Oct 14 2016, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(zher4883 @ Oct 14 2016, 12:22 PM)
Pay with standard charted bank credit card.
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super waste ugh! I have sc bank credit card I din know this code!
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post Oct 14 2016, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Oct 14 2016, 02:47 PM)
those who have account

get a cheap mtk phone, change the imei to match those approved phones.

try and see if can get away with the saman
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Wont work

QUOTE(alucard89 @ Oct 14 2016, 02:59 PM)
Got foolproof method to change imei without bricking the phone?
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Already tried that wont work
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post Oct 14 2016, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(shikhmuhdsyafiq @ Oct 14 2016, 03:04 PM)
change build number will cause no issue. A webe customer rep confirms that they track imei number to know what model phone you use, but if you change the imei number = death.
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why change imei number = death?
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post Oct 14 2016, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Oct 14 2016, 06:07 PM)
It's not gonna brick, but you won't be able to connect to telco network if imei number missing or something else.
If anyone else knows any risk free imei changing method do share.
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root + xposed module and you're good to go
I already changed mine but still detected as uncertified model
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post Oct 14 2016, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Oct 14 2016, 06:32 PM)
Can anyone post screenshot on youtube bandwith while streaming 1440p? Just enable stats for nerds on the youtube app
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sometimes it cap sometimes it doesn't
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post Oct 14 2016, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 14 2016, 06:38 PM)
really?

all telling that change the imei can work  hmm.gif  rclxub.gif  unsure.gif
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anyone had confirmed that? Because I had tried and it doesn't work
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post Oct 14 2016, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Oct 14 2016, 06:41 PM)
Ada la sweat.gif
All the time
Is it fixed at certain hours or totally random?
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I would say random, and some other user did claim that they never been capped on youtube/google related services
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post Oct 14 2016, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Oct 14 2016, 09:05 PM)
what imei did you change to?
it has to match a known brand listed.
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Ofcuz I did, why else would I change it hmm.gif

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