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 APPLE PAY IN MALAYSIA, Official arrives in Malaysia! Aug 2022!

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Kiding
post Aug 9 2022, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Aug 9 2022, 03:44 PM)
i see u use "OR" word, u meant we don't necessary need to double click, somehow just need to hold the phone near the terminal/receiver, then wallet app will auto popup and get our FACE ID/Touch ID to confirm pay?

because i personally dont like to click my on/off button
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Turn on express travel on the card in the apply watch wallet, then no need to press any button
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post Aug 10 2022, 12:00 AM

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Using apple watch for Apply Pay is a great experience, I no longer need to take out my wallet or phone, just move the watch closer to payment terminal, wait for a beep sound than you are done!

I believe this is the best feature on Apple Watch, hopefully TnG card also can be integrated to Apple Wallet.
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post Aug 10 2022, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Aug 10 2022, 12:06 AM)
still need to double press the watch button right, just to confirm tongue.gif
never use A watch before
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No need to double press if you enable express travel on the card in the wallet.
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post Aug 10 2022, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(armin3d @ Aug 10 2022, 12:49 PM)
have you tried it with express travel mode?
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no, because I don't think it is secure, better double press before make payment.
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post Aug 11 2022, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(wjleong15 @ Aug 11 2022, 06:38 PM)
Pray to god their business drop like hell then they likely join ship
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No need to pray, it won't happen because iPhone users in Malaysia probably less than 20% of total mobile phone users.

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post Aug 15 2022, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Aug 15 2022, 04:37 PM)
After a certain degree of observation.

I think one of the dangers for Apple Pay is that it not similar to Paywave or QR Pay in a sense that there's a limit to daily transaction.
It's similar to carrying a physical card and knowing the 6 digit security code.

At least this is what I observe today, I'm surprised that I am able to spend more than RM500 which is should be my cap for the card I added to my wallet for Apple Pay.
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I disagree, first of all, you need to unlock your iPhone or Apple Watch before you can use Apple Pay

Unlocking iPhone/Apple Watch requires FaceID/TouchID/passcode, anyone without going through these authentication methods will not be able to use Apple Pay.

Think of FaceID/TouchID/passcode like your credit card pin, that's why there is no limit cap for Apple Pay.


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post Aug 20 2022, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Aug 20 2022, 04:40 PM)
so far no, the barrier scanner and the token terminal no paywave
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If TnG NFC card can be added as wallet and use express travel, it will be very nice, just like Japan suica card
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post Sep 3 2022, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(pokemon @ Sep 3 2022, 11:23 AM)
I see many for not showing AP transactions related only to Maybank cards?  What about other bank cards?
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I'm using SCB master card on Apple Watch 4, no issue since first day, never got transaction failed / not transaction history

The detection distance on Apple Watch 4 is great, it can perform transaction around 3=5cm, very convenient and ease of use, I supposed to cut my SC master card but since it can use Apple Pay, looks like I'm going to continue using it.
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post Jan 2 2024, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(moonsatelite @ Jan 1 2024, 07:46 PM)
So..... CIMB MY lied to all of the iOS device users in Malaysia saying that Apple Pay would be supported around H2 2023
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i don’t understand why need to use cimb credit card, if you want apple pay, just get hsbc, maybank, SCB card

nowadays it is damn easy to get credit card unless you are black listed.
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post Aug 15 2024, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(BetterCallSaul @ Aug 15 2024, 10:55 AM)
I think at this point banks will just wait for Apple to open up the NFC chip for 3rd party developers, coming up in iOS 18.1. Then from here they'll incorporate it into their native apps instead, rather than via Apple Pay. However, to use this, they "need to enter into a commercial agreement with Apple, request the NFC and SE entitlement, and pay the associated fees"

Developers can soon offer in‑app NFC transactions using the Secure Element
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this feature only opened to EU and north American due to antitrust laws. Apple was forced to open it.

unless Asian countries all impose same law to Apple, this greedy apple still want your money from your pocket.
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post Aug 16 2024, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(Steve78 @ Aug 15 2024, 07:23 PM)
Not really, Apple isn't taking money out of our pockets, their portion comes from the bank.

Data also reveals that Apple Pay strengthens card payment security and improves the payment process, which helps banks minimize fraud losses, bringing benefits to both banks and users.
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Bank will transfer cost to us! if cannot transfer by other means, they don’t allow their customer to use apple pay.

who you don't see many local bank got apple pay?
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post Aug 16 2024, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(Steve78 @ Aug 16 2024, 04:10 AM)
Has anyone who uses Apple Pay ever paid more than someone who doesn't use Apple Pay?

You're contradicting yourself. You claimed that the bank transfers the cost to us, but if that were true, why wouldn't they just enable Apple Pay, knowing they could pass on the cost?

The reality is that they can't transfer the cost to customers, which is why some banks choose not to enable Apple Pay.
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BNM doesn’t allow banks to transfer any transaction fee to consumer.

if bank couldn't find a way to transfer cost to consumer or merchant, or they cannot make profit by just enabling apple pay, they wont enable it.

That is the reason why many banks don't offer apple pay because it has additional cost.

Some banks willing to absorb the additional costs simply they want you to spend more with apple pay, if you don't make enough transaction, they charge you annual fee.

remember, business always seeking profit, no one want to give free things.

Taobao is a good example, if you use apple pay, transaction fee is higher than using normal credit card. Taobao is in China and not under BNM governance, hence they can transfer cost to consumer.


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post Aug 16 2024, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Steve78 @ Aug 16 2024, 08:38 PM)
Are you aware of how conflicting your argument is?

First, you said Apple is taking money from us, I countered that claim.

Then you shouted, "Bank will transfer the cost to us!" But when I pointed out the contradiction, you suddenly switched to discussing why banks won’t enable Apple Pay.

Each of your points might looks ok on its own, but together they don’t form a coherent argument.
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I didn't make it clear enough, bank will transfer cost to us “indirectly”, consumer pay the apple tax at the end.
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post Aug 20 2024, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(Steve78 @ Aug 20 2024, 07:30 PM)
You’re contradicting yourself with a series of inconsistent statements, one after another. You haven't addressed the questions that were raised but instead keep introducing new conflicting arguments, which lack consistent reasoning.

If you insist on calling this a "tax", despite there being no difference when someone pays with or without Apple Pay, then every mobile payment, card payment, e-wallet, and other non-cash transactions would also be subject to this "tax".

Do you think that payment solution providers are non-profit organizations? They all offer these solutions to generate profit ultimately.
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agree with no difference consumer pay with or without apple pay (except taobao)

but bank would give 0.15% cut of transaction fee to apple, since bank get less profit, they will find way to make it up, who is the target bank going to make money, you guess.

HSBC and SCB credit cards charge me hefty annual fee if I don't spend enough in a year.

I can see those banks don't offer apple pay because they cant make it up by charging consumer hefty annual fee or cover their lost from consumer.

at the end, the wool comes from the sheep, thats what i want to say.

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post Nov 20 2024, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Nov 20 2024, 03:59 PM)
question very simple. who will pay the fees to apple?
Besides, using applepay dont mean better. I just get to know applepay use on hsbc dont entitle for 5x or 8x point. It will consider as 1x point.
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thats why i said consumer paid the indirect apple tax.
I use apple pay is because it is convenient when use watch to tap and pay, otherwise, wont use it at all.
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post Oct 6 2025, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Oct 6 2025, 03:06 PM)
not all country support apple pay when oversea. so still need to carry the card
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use wise card oversea, best exchange rate! wise supports apple pay! even work for express mode in Japan suica transport card, just tap my apple watch for all mrt stations in Tokyo, super convenient!


 

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