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post Dec 6 2016, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(turtles_tszx @ Nov 25 2016, 03:35 PM)
I’m planning of buying the Surutto Kansai 2 Day Ticket and Kansai Wide Area for my trip later.

Here are my latest plan
D1-Arrive KIX *Night
D2-Osaka
D3-KYOTO (Kansai Thru Pass 2 day tix)
D4-Nara (Kansai Thru Pass 2 day tix)
D5-Kobe (Kansai Wide Area Pass)
D6-Arashiyama (Kansai Wide Area Pass)
D7-Kinosaki Onsen (Kansai Wide Area Pass)
D8-?? Undecided between Mt. Koya or Wakayama (Kansai Wide Area Pass)
D9-Last day, Night Flight

Is it feasible or worth for me to buy passes? Kindly recommend which are more suitable. Do recommend any places that i should go to as well, im still undecided on what to do on Day 8.

Thank you in advance!
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Maybe I try to help since I notice no one reply to you ... check the cost of the train tickets (basic fare + limited express)
http://www.hyperdia.com/en/

https://www.westjr.co.jp/global/en/

Also, I suggest you stay at Osaka for the last night (or the last few days), so you can do final shopping and pack the bags, rather than carry the stuff you buy at Osaka on arrival, all over Kansai area.

e.g.
D1/2 - ICOCA & Haruka package one way to Kyoto (2000 + 1600) = 3600 yen. Buy at JR Kansai office, now got Hello Kitty edition.
D3-4 Check train cost to Nara. Else get Kansai Thru Pass 2 days.
D5-9 - use the Kansai Wide Area Pass

The Wide Pass is 8500 yen book online, which you can buy in KL for RM340 in Nov'16. Bring receipt and claim the ticket at JR Kansai office. You need to plan well, as JR will print the ticket with the dates for the 5 days.

Also, the Wide Pass is inclusive of Shinkansen, manage to ride the Nozomi 700.

Since the pass is expensive, why not choose further distance to explore ? e.g. Himeji took 27 minutes using Shinkansen, while rapid train will take ~60+ minutes.
Next trip, then only stay in Osaka/Kyoto for shopping and don't wander out.

Kinosaki Onsen is the furthest, there is single train going direct without the need to change train or carry luggage around (e.g. Fukuchiyama). Check the timetable Kyoto-Kinosaki (3 trains per day) or Osaka-Kinosaki.

I would recommend going in a loop such as KIX - Kyoto (Nara) - Kinosaki direct - Himeji - Kobe - Osaka (day trip to Wakayama. Or you can even stay in Osaka and take day train to Himeji, Kobe & Wakayama for half-day, then come back to Osaka for shopping and meals in evening/night.

ICOCA you can imagine like HK Octopus or SG EZLink, can use in a lot of places, trains, convenience store, departmental store food stalls, restaurant, etc. So you don't get pocket full of 1/5/10 yen coins.
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post Dec 6 2016, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(turtles_tszx @ Dec 6 2016, 03:44 PM)
Hi thank you so much for the detailed answer, appreciate it a lot thumbup.gif I will be staying in Osaka the entire trip and planning to go for daily trip for the above places for the exception of kinosaki since it's quite far from Osaka. I already have Suica, should i just buy icoca? i read tht suice is usable in kansai area.
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Suica or ICOCA or other IC cards are quite similiar. As long got the logo at payment kiosk / transport, then can use.
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post Dec 20 2016, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(rEDs @ Dec 20 2016, 06:54 PM)
where to collect the Yokoso! ticket when arrive in Osaka?
No collection information up to Input payment information page for the card.
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Come out into Kansai airport arrival hall, at the centre is a tourist information, show your receipt there to claim the ticket.
If it is JR Rail, then have to exit the arrival hall, cross to next building in front and JR Office is there.

Try calculate the cost if 1500 yen is worth daily pass or not, depending what area/places you want to visit. For me, my average daily transport is 600-900 yen only if within the city itself. I'm using ICOCA card.
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post Dec 26 2016, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(artman @ Dec 26 2016, 11:51 AM)
Hi Sifu's, here is my plan,
do advice if there is better recommendations. TQVM

Osaka Mid-April Trip - 11 Days Itinerary

Day 1
- Arrival KIX (3:25PM)
- Train To Kyoto (Anyone can advice train?)
- Check-In Airbnb (Near Kyoto Station)

Day 2 & 3
- Purchase Kyoto Bus/Train Sightseeing 2 Day Pass (2,000 Yen)
- Visit Around Kyoto

Day 4 (Starts Takayama-Hokuriku Area 5 Days Tourist Pass (13,500 Yen) - For Day 4-8
- Kanazawa Day Trip
- Proceed To Toyama Hotel

Day 5 & 6
- Visit Takayama, Shirakawa-Go, Gokayama, etc. (Flexible)

Day 7
- Train from Toyama to Osaka (4 Hours) - Options To Stop-By Visits
- Check-In Osaka Namba

Day 8, 9, 10
- Visit Around Osaka
- Purchase Osaka Amazing 2 Days Pass (3,000 Yen) - For Day 9 & 10
(*Options To Nara, Kobe Day Trip)

Day 11
- Departure KIX
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I can only advise Day 1 there when arrive KIX, exit arrival hall into JR office, purchase the ICOCA & Haruka Express one way (2000 + 1600) = 3600 yen.
That's the cheapest rapid train from KIX to Kyoto, that I know.
ICOCA costs 2000 yen and consist of 1500 amount inside, can use at convenience store, transport, some restaurants, etc. Something similiar like TnG, HK Octopus, SG EZLink, etc.

Day 2, check the locations you want to go and the cost of bus/train. It maybe cheaper if use the IC card (ICOCA/Suica/Pasmo/etc.)

Day 11, check the Haruka express cost from Shin-Osaka / Tennoji / etc. to KIX. Should be 1600 yen as well. You can purchase at day 1 there.
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Edit: 2000 + 1600 = 3600 yen (failed math) cry.gif

This post has been edited by cute_boboi: Dec 26 2016, 06:17 PM
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post Jan 22 2017, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(silver311 @ Jan 20 2017, 11:39 PM)
Hi guys,

Me and my friends are going to Japan next month. We're planning to go

Kansai Airport (KIX) -> Kyoto -> Osaka -> Kansai Airport (KIX)

I've read that its best to get the ICOCA-Haruka set for cheaper ticket to Kyoto. So just to reconfirm if I understand it correctly.

http://www.westjr.co.jp/global/en/ticket/icoca-haruka/

Based on the Site, it is 3,600YEN for the ICOCA-Haruka set, one way from Kansai-airport - Kyoto. Then I can also purchase another discounted one way ticket from Tennoji-Kansai-airport for 1,100YEN.
Correct. You can buy all the JR tickets at that JR counter when you arrive, specify the date of your travel.
- ICOCA card
- Haruka KIX-Kyoto
- Haruka Tennoji  (Osaka) - KIX
- any other JR West pass, activation date & period.

Also, if I were to purchase the Kansai-airport - Kyoto ticket. For that same price, I can drop off at either of the available 4 stations; Kyoto Station, Nijo Station, Uzumasa Station and Saga-Arashiyama Station?
You have to get out of the Haruka train upon reaching Kyoto Station, then change platform to other (must) JR line. If you change to other metro/train (non JR), you have to "fare-adjust", you will see some of these machines.

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Refer above in blue.
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post Jan 22 2017, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(silver311 @ Jan 22 2017, 05:16 PM)
Thanks so much for the info. So I think i'll use the Haruka discounted tickets route from KIX-Kyoto and also Osaka-KIX. Any suggestions for a similar cheap route from Kyoto-Osaka?

I tried searching through Google and got this route which uses the Tokaido-Sanyo Line.
https://goo.gl/maps/kcKpkfdSbqs
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Depends on your itinerary. If you are not going other intra-city (e.g. Kobe/Himeji/Nara/etc.), most likely you will not purchase any JR Pass, hence, just use Icoca to travel between Kyoto-Osaka using normal rapid trains.

Otherwise, for example, if you purchase 2 day JR pass (there are varieties of passes), then 1st JR day pass you travel to Nara. Then 2nd day to Osaka.

Tokaido-Sanyo is shinkansen and is the most expensive, but fastest. There are other rapid trains (JR and non-JR) or slowest but cheapest using bus as well.
Also depends which station in Osaka is your next destination hotel/hostel.

Here's a link after quick search.
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post Jan 22 2017, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(silver311 @ Jan 22 2017, 06:24 PM)
Again, thanks so much =D Btw, just 1 last question. On the ICOCA-Haruka website, I saw that there is the ICOCA-Haruka pass set as well as this Kansai One Pass. I'm not exactly sure if I'll still get a discounted Haruka pass if I buy the Kansai One Pass card. Since from what I undertsand, the Kansai One Pass is an ICOCA card as well?

https://www.westjr.co.jp/global/en/ticket/icoca-haruka/
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Kansai One Pass is an ICOCA card as well. The condition for Haruka discounted ticket is to present an IC card with ICOCA logo. Hence, it is valid.
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post Jan 22 2017, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(silver311 @ Jan 22 2017, 06:59 PM)
So would you say its better for me to get the Kansai One Pass currently?
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It depends, there is no right/wrong answer. Check and compare the normal vs Kansai One Pass ICOCA and see which you will utilize.

e.g. Kansai One Pass may have more benefits but will you utilize the benefits ? What if you or your partner wants to collect the Hello Kitty design ?
What if later on, Kansai One Pass promo over ? What if later got better promo ?
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post Feb 22 2017, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(ps3roxor @ Feb 22 2017, 03:19 PM)
What's the most convenient way to get around Kyoto? The train lines so confusing. I did my research and the subway day pass can only use on 2 lines. If want to go to Arashiyama, to take the Keifuku line need to buy a separate rail pass?

I plan to go:
Day 1: Kiyomizu-Dera + Fushimi Inari
Day 2: Arashiyama + Kinkakuji
Day 3/4: Undecided

Ayam planning to go during April
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First, do a total daily fare to-and-fro for the places you want to go using prepaid icoca and the Kansai <xxx> pass suggested. I believe your cost will not be higher than daily pass, since you only go 1-2 places a day and not doing amazing race on every stop, hence better to just use icoca/suico/pasmo/etc. prepaid cards.
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post Feb 22 2017, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(ps3roxor @ Feb 22 2017, 09:54 PM)
I think the day pass might be more useful compared to prepaid if I want make pit stops in between the major attractions, like meals lunch/dinner (i'm not sure if there's anything value-for-money meals near the attractions) and I might pass by some nice areas while on the bus and spontaneously just get down to visit for a short while before getting back on the road.
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Other than central Kyoto city area, there's nothing much once you get further outside like Arashiyama, unless you know the specific place you want to go.

It's easier to explore within central Kyoto city area, e.g. you walk from Kyoto station to Kiyomizu Dera, that's like 2-3km, and along the way there are some shops/restaurant which might be interesting.
Then walk all the way from Kiyomizu Dera to Gion area.
Some people may think it's crazy or wasting time, but walking is the best way to explore places, rather than amazing race as much pit stops as possible.

Another e.g. if you travel from Kyoto Central to Fushimi Inari, there's nothing much along the way. Unless you know or already plan to go, for example, Tofukuji temple, then it's somewhere in the middle of the route, but you can't view it when riding bus/train.

Therefore, think again about your plans, to decide day pass or prepaid card.
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