Hi

Due to bajet, narrow down to these 2 models only. Of coz 2nd hand due to similar price.

Advantage on x100
- low noise on high iso
- sensor

Advantage on rx100
- weight
- 3x zoom

Anyone can help me to decide ?

if you are close range shooter X100 is dslr sensor size which is good, just prepare to run around for zoom using it 5 year top of the ranges for close ranges photo. you can digital crop. slower focus but superb colour. about 300 shot without flash with flash 150 or so.

3x is not much zoom but Rx100 is smaller sensor then dslr, so more noise , no need to run around.

Not a pro here, just some of my opinion.

Both are good camera, but for different purpose. X100 is more to natural and realistic record due to its 23mm lens. Rx100 is for pro photographer spare camera or ppl don't want to jump into a system.

If you want photo only, go for x100. If you will record video, go for rx100. In term of speed, rx100 1st gen is quite slow actually, and I dont think is memory card problem. X100 is not that slow too with its latest firmware, and inside the memory card cannot contain any files not from it's system. Lowlight performance, x100 will miss focus sometime and rx100 can be help by ois.

Overall I will say go for x100 if shoot photo and rx100 for video. Go to x100 if you like 23mm (35mm equv.) Or go to rx100 if you have no basic in photography.

This post has been edited by zaxkong: Sep 19 2016, 07:42 PM

Ask yourself if you need zoom and you get the answer, as simple as that.

Personally, I would recommend the RX100.

Versatile and compact.

Frm previous exp, seldom use zoom

Yes the size win

But i wanna use this camera most in indoor scene. Like dinner with friends pic, food pic, in ofis pic, bday party pic, night view pic, etc
Feel x100 indoor pic is better than rx100 after google some sample.
Maybe due to its large sensor.

More shoot on photo n got exp in photography.
Read review said that latest firmware had fixed the miss focus isu in lowlight, hope it helps a lot when shoot indoor.

The x100 is slow in low light situation, if you're talking about the first gen.

X100 to me more specialised. As in if you absolutely love fix focal and like to experiment zooming by foot. Frankly if you not going to pixel peep much, rx100 is enough unless you have specific requirement in mind.

Kind of pointless debate considering x100 and rx100 are meant for different consumer IMO.

Go for x100. Hope you can accept all weakness of it as it is old machine.

Yes 1st gen but latest firmware aldy fixed it but dunno how good the improvement

Which consumer targeted for x100 ?

Even old mesin, review still prefer x100. Is it bcoz prime lens compare rx100 zoom lens ?

People who like retro styling camera with fixed focal, street shooters.

It is like asking which consumer for expensive Leica that only shoots B&W with no back LCD. It is absolutely not a travel camera, but there are people who bought it as travel camera nevertheless. Not saying x100 is not ideal for travel but the fixed focal may make you regret if you dont like the constraint.

This post has been edited by DaddyO: Sep 20 2016, 01:33 PM

Nope. I am not comparing x100 with rx100. To me, i prefer x100 series too. I am comparing it to x100t model
X100t is the consummation of x100 series. Fast focus, electronic shutter, wifi, classic chrome. So hope you can accept its weakness, else it will leave bad impression to x100 series.

Yes i've considered the fixed focal. Hope it will not fail me.

X100t is wayyyyyy out of bajet aldy.

I have used the XE-1 and it shares the same hardware with X100, after the update, the whole AF improved a lot but still hunts during low light situation, which isn't really ideal for me.

On the other hand, I recommended my friend to get the RX100 and we brought the camera to test in a restaurant at night, the AF was better on the Sony, much more snappier.

Arghhh... Make me feel so 50-50

I am pretty sure you're favoring the bigger sensor.

I have the X100s with me and I really like it.

I know you just need ppl to push you a bit to x100. Just go!!
If not budget problem, sure x100t.

Left - x100
Middle - rx100 mk2
Right - a57 (my bro used it)

If low light hunting isu isn't there, 100% will pick x100.
Only solution that I'm thinking as of now, is that my friend need to flash their face with hp led for easy focus.


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If you are really into photography, get the x100.

Pros:
+ Superb files, great color and tonality, almost film like
+ Fast F2 lens and Big sensor give you nice bokeh, dynamic range and ability to shoot in dark scene.
+ Viewfinder, it helps you to get into the mood of shooting ( Serious photog uses viewfinder)
+ Main setting (aperture, shutter, EV) can be set directly on the hardware
+ Better grip (the Sony rx100 feels like a bar of soap)

Regarding the fixed 35mm lens, I learned the most using a prime lens, it let you focus on the composition, message and feel

It does hunt badly on low light situation, most camera hunt in low light anyway. Just switch to manual focus and you will be fine. There is a distance indicator and magnifier (you have to enable it in setting) which aids focusing. It also help you to pre-focus, very useful when doing street photography. I shoot manual focus and prime all the time now. (legacy lens on Sony A7).

If you are reading this line, I hope you have made the decision.

This post has been edited by iambovi: Sep 21 2016, 10:29 PM

wo totally different kind of cameras.
X100 suits street photography whilst the RX100 is more versatile and smaller. X100 has better image quality, but are you comfortable with the prime lens setup? And don't forget, you are likely to use manual focus/zone focusing of the X100. The AF is very slow by today's standard. Sometimes it won't even lock the AF. I would say it's not the camera for you if that is the only camera you have.

Really depends what you want to do with your camera.

I used to own XE-1 and X100 at the same time. And guess what, X100's AF is actually even slower than XE-100! I end up using a lot of zone focusing.

This post has been edited by davidletterboyz: Sep 22 2016, 12:13 AM

Agreed on the pros. Yet to decide.

Main usage is taking a pic in ofis (staff lunch, festival event, product launch, showcase, etc), food foto, event in restaurant
Does indoor light with fluo lamp (ie. in ofis, restaurant) isn't enough for x100 focusing ?

Mostly no fast shutter required due to static object so I think i can take time on focusing.

This post has been edited by epo: Sep 22 2016, 10:28 AM

The AF speed is slow even if it's under the bright sun (by today's standard). Hunting when it's dark.

If it's static object... Then you can take your time. But I doubt your subjects are static in staff lunch or festival events lol. You may have a hard time framing with the prime lens if you are covering an event and only got one cam.

This post has been edited by davidletterboyz: Sep 23 2016, 12:34 AM

Fast fast pick up the x100 and let us know

Walauweiii even bright sun also slow meh... Hmmm...
I got another dslr with 17-70mm before but so leceh bring it with big flash
Dah la i ride kapcai to opis je

By today's standard, yes it is slow. It is using contrast based AF. Not like nowadays phone lol...PDAF, laser focus, dual pixel focus...etc.

If you have another DSLR already, then it's still fine. X100 is a fun camera, but with limited versatility.

But my obj is not to bring dslr. Otherwise no need to buy compact aldy.

What I mean is having X100 as the only camera you own.

Or just up your budget and get rx100mkiii. Problem solved.

Hmmm... After watching below utube, look the focus speed is acceptable...

X100 - slow focus, 35mm, has viewfinder, good high ISO image

RX100 - better focus, 28-100mm, no EVF


for me, I would never buy a camera without viewfinder.

Sorry to bump this up abit, I'm contemplating between RX100 iii vs X100.. I like fuji colors, but considering it's a really old camera, is it still worth to get now? I'm looking at second hand cameras.

This post has been edited by Kilohertz: Apr 25 2017, 12:50 PM

I had the X100 before. I'd say try to get the X100S instead. i love the images, the controls, the lens...but these 2 issues really let me down:
- on/off and exposure compensation dial is quite loose. frequently found myself accidentally turning them
- as others have mentioned, AF is one of the low points of the X100. it has somewhat improved by the new firmware, but still slow and inaccurate compared to most other cameras on the market.

X100S fixes both of these issues. costs more for sure, but i think you'll get a better experience with it. apart from those two issues, the X100 series is a joy

how comfortable are you with the 35mm equiv prime lens? it's not for everyone...

the RX100m3 is definitely more versatile. certainly beats the X100 when it comes to video

I'm more into pictures and street photography, looking to shoot some indoors stuff as well. Yea I saw the latest firmware improved the AF but not sure how good is it, on the X100S.. it's definitely out of my budget even second hand unit costs a lot more. I actually like the film simulation feature on fujis, it looks very film-ish... On the sony, it is good (images are really sharp) and compact.. I was even thinking, get the sony, shoot raw and apply film filters on the images but that's more into editing.

seems like the X100S suits you better bro. it's fantastic for street. lots of strangers will compliment your beautiful camera haha.

i think used X100S and RX100m3 is about the same price, about RM2k... have a look at the garage sales section

Haha! For the aesthetics? Aite, I'll look into second hand x100s, thanks for the tips bro.