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 Why people fear of MLM ?, Do you guy really understand wat is MLM?

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post Jan 18 2010, 02:50 PM

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If that's the case, why not go Google up their office and pay a visit? I'm sure these MLM companies have consultants ready in the office all the time. Surely they will tell you the requirements etc when you're there.
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post Jan 18 2010, 03:04 PM

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IMO

MLM/direct marketing is a means of getting a product rapidly to the consumer (end user).

In this case, there are 3 things,
Product -> Should be wanted, useful, and generally consumable/short useful life so that ithere's repeat business

Consumer -> the product should hit as wide a consumer base as possible, for instance, shoes, makeup, dietary produts, health supplements.

Distributor -> incentives for the distributors to go out and sell the products. (and not just do 'recruitment'), by giving discounts (usually scaled to volume).

When an MLM focuses TOO MUCH on the 'distributor' element, and ignoring the consumer base and also the product, u should be very suspicious. After all, volume, products and consumers are what drives any kind of business. The distributorship is just an added advantage, but not the 'fundamentals' of the business.
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QUOTE(nukienemec @ Jan 18 2010, 02:35 PM)
i dont know. cannot explain. unexplainable. can it be other than usana. i dont have any clue what to start and where to start. better than selling goreng pisang at the side street
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QUOTE(nukienemec @ Jan 18 2010, 02:36 PM)
the person who wrote that is not me. if you are rich then give me some of your money lar. rm 10,000 perhaps.
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=31318011

So who is writing this? same person, other person?
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post Jan 18 2010, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(ahwooi @ Jan 29 2007, 05:09 PM)
You might look at me in one kind .. I dont mind ... Cause you are those ppl i mentioned in my long post.
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MLM to be specific is a business dealing with a network of people and through this, they move their products which is a must to avoid being categorize as a get rich quick or money laundering scheme but technically, it is.

Its selling dream and charging unsuspecting people with exorbitant membership fee and monthly maintenance for a product which is so cheap and worthless. No difference with ponzi scheme mechanism but with products to legalize it.

This scheme only benefits the top level ones and never the lower level ones. Go do statistics on how many % out of the total members does actually earn. Infact dont be surprised if i u realize on average, only about 3% are earning as much as they claim and most companies even resort to 'create' a role-model who is made millionaire by monthly salary and not by his network as he claim, all so he can market the brand better.

For the majority who are deemed not performing, MLM usual tactic is to get those a brain washing session and blame them for not hard working enough even after the poor dudes has recruited 10 friends but unfortunately tht still doesnt qualify him for something.

From these sessions u get new extremely desperate under performing poor dudes who will do anything to increase their sales with their new false believe. I have a friend who invested a few thousand to join a damn famous mlm scheme but unable to earn much. Guess what, he end up paying another few thousand to jump a level up and increase their earning %. All by borrowing from loan shark. He even encouraged his targets who are mostly students to do the same and thus, it came out in the newspaper! Ahlongs doing funny stuffs to students from a particular college who cant pay up.

No wonder people are allergic the moment they hear mlm because its the best friend and family breaker especially people who joined those mlm with huge "investment".

And to make matters worse, the mlm people reacted negatively from this facts and they will go around and slam the majority of people who are anti-mlm and thus, bringing down their already decreasing business potential.

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post Jan 18 2010, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Alternation @ Jan 18 2010, 04:12 PM)


This scheme only benefits the top level ones and never the lower level ones. Go do statistics on how many % out of the total members does actually earn. Infact dont be surprised if i u realize on average, only about 3% are earning as much as they claim and most companies even resort to 'create' a role-model who is made millionaire by monthly salary and not by his network as he claim, all so he can market the brand better.

Yup, Alternation hit the spot there. Bottom line, Stay away from MLM!
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post Jan 19 2010, 10:18 AM

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post Jan 19 2010, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(nukienemec @ Jan 19 2010, 10:18 AM)
Define get a proper job? Is living as a taxi driver or a clerk or working at Mcdonalds a proper job? Or working as a salesman JayaJusco/Metrojaya/Isetan.
Why is it so hard to good paying jobs these days. After the 2009 economic crisis, companies closed down. I was retrenched because the company I was working closed down. Until then I had undergone 2 government training but still no job success. The government promise jobs but did not deliver. The government sucks. Please do not say that I suck. Or else I will say "f-u-c-k you" to you.
But now I doing my own business and can live lar. But still have not got pass the profit I desire and I am furious. I have no debt still. No loans to pay. I want to become a millioanaire and the government sucks.
Malaysia sucks. Im migrating to UK.
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Good luck, i'm finding ways to migrate out as well. SG will be easiest.
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QUOTE(nukienemec @ Jan 19 2010, 10:18 AM)
Define get a proper job? Is living as a taxi driver or a clerk or working at Mcdonalds a proper job? Or working as a salesman JayaJusco/Metrojaya/Isetan.
Why is it so hard to good paying jobs these days. After the 2009 economic crisis, companies closed down. I was retrenched because the company I was working closed down. Until then I had undergone 2 government training but still no job success. The government promise jobs but did not deliver. The government sucks. Please do not say that I suck. Or else I will say "f-u-c-k you" to you.
But now I doing my own business and can live lar. But still have not got pass the profit I desire and I am furious. I have no debt still. No loans to pay. I want to become a millioanaire and the government sucks.
Malaysia sucks. Im migrating to UK.
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By scamming people saying you're broke and how to get rich quick with USANA? laugh.gif

Jobs are aplenty, but you cant get one is because you're not competently desireable. Besides, why depend on government? You're not applying for government jobs, are you? Its all the SMEs and MNCs out there. How can they hire when their profit margins have been affected?


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post Jan 20 2010, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(nukienemec @ Jan 19 2010, 10:18 AM)
Define get a proper job? Is living as a taxi driver or a clerk or working at Mcdonalds a proper job? Or working as a salesman JayaJusco/Metrojaya/Isetan.
Why is it so hard to good paying jobs these days. After the 2009 economic crisis, companies closed down. I was retrenched because the company I was working closed down. Until then I had undergone 2 government training but still no job success. The government promise jobs but did not deliver. The government sucks. Please do not say that I suck. Or else I will say "f-u-c-k you" to you.
But now I doing my own business and can live lar. But still have not got pass the profit I desire and I am furious. I have no debt still. No loans to pay. I want to become a millioanaire and the government sucks.
Malaysia sucks. Im migrating to UK.
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Any job is consider proper jobs, I have known engineers and accountants go to work at MacDonalds during the recession in 1997, they tough it out and then when the economy recovers they switch to better jobs. At that time i am also working part time at McDonalds to earn money for my education. If you can't get 'desirable' jobs in Malaysia, what jobs do you think you can get in the UK? Tough it out and take the challenge, life is tough, but worth living for in an honest way. There is no use blaming the government or anybody else.

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I'd have to go with gark on this one,

Thing is, nukienemec, are you just harping about UK for the sake of doing so, or do you actually know what is going on over there? Are you aware that the retrenchment exercise (and by association the economy) is by far more severe / worse over in the UK than it is over here? You are more likely to get a position as a manager over here than you will over there as a toilet cleaner.

Granted, it's probably a case of sheer exaggeration, but I think nothing short of that will shock you to your senses that the entire world is dealing with the crisis of new, devalued money being created faster than we can put a value to it. I'd be dead blunt with you right now nukienemec, it doesn't really sound like you've got a really strong case when one statement mentions you wanting to pursue any form of job in the UK and yet in another post, you've mentioned about the merits of USANA (as being better than selling goreng pisang by the roadside)

Have you some kind of prejudice against these street vendors? You might have, in your infinite wisdom, noticed by now that these two "organizations" have a core similarity. While fundamentally functioning at two different levels, they both involve the same requirement, SELLING.

SELLING a transformed product is the fundamental for both of these businesses. How is one intrinsically better or more successful than the other, might I ask?


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post Sep 23 2010, 06:41 PM

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Looking at another angle.

How many of you are familiar with Paypal?

Do you think paypal will accept MLM company and process payment for them?
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post Sep 23 2010, 10:11 PM

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msia has too 'relax' regulations on MLM, there is around 400-500 MLM exist in msia. while singapore has more rigorous regulations on MLM.. only around 80-100 MLM in singapore.
So, unethical MLM companies runined some MLM companies which is actually very good.
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post Dec 4 2010, 04:12 PM

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say no to MLM ??? lolz
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rule no.1= Money never come easily...
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QUOTE(lonely_dream @ Dec 4 2010, 04:25 PM)
rule no.1= Money never come easily...
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thats why we all called Hard Earn Money rclxms.gif
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post Dec 20 2010, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Jtic @ Sep 23 2010, 10:11 PM)
msia has too 'relax' regulations on MLM, there is around 400-500 MLM exist in msia. while singapore has more rigorous regulations on MLM.. only around 80-100 MLM in singapore.
So, unethical MLM companies runined some MLM companies which is actually very good.
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The primary reason why MLMs are so much more popular in Malaysia compared with Singapore is due to the paltry income levels that Malaysians employees are paid. Not enough dough to buy the nice goodies in life so they resort to MLMs and similar ponzi schemes to satisfy their material cravings not knowing that in most cases, these suckers get trapped in an ever-spiralling vicious debt cycle where many of them are forced to borrow to fund their MLM "investments".

Meanwhile, Singaporean employees earn decent $$ by working in civil service, major local corporations and MNCs and can afford to buy iPads, iphones, macbooks, omega watches and take annual vacations to the US, Europe and Japan => all WITHOUT resorting to ponzi/ MLM schemes.
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deng, in the end, both need to sell / promote product, back to square one =.="
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I'm doing MLM as well. I understand why some ppl do not accept them becoz I was one of them b4. I fear tht their product they sell is not as gud as tht it claims. (I meet ppl like these as well). They are not wrong~ mayb the fear comes from past experience or mayb something bad happened to ppl around them.

Money runs the world, whatever job we take is all bcoz of money. I don't bliv tht 100% of doctors became one was not bcoz of the money. MLM is just a type of business model, they pay their sales man instead of paying 50k for a single ad.

There is no free money in this world, of coz u hav to sell product n work hard. And it's not easy to do MLM, it's the same as any other job

If anyone wants to join MLM OR wants to b a consumer, you have to evaluate two things
(1) the company - research on it, do all background check
(2) the people - that has to be based on your own judgement eg. The personality, the CULTURE of the group (this is the key that lead you to success)

For those who have friends whose doing MLM, try to give your support, give them a pat on the back and remind them tht they can do it. Don't b cruel n destroy their hopes. It's not easy for a person to take such risk to venture into something new. Be considerate n supportive, they will always remember that your there regardless whether they fail in future or succeed

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My upline got me into buying this n that. Some helps some don't. But what I hate isn't about he/she persuading me to buy. Its about whenever he/she is with me, they only talks about MLM endlessly or money-making related. Friendship isn't about taking advantages. smile.gif
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I still dont understand why ppl refuse to accept or either listen to MLM. It just another kind of business model or marketing model that doing tradisional business == selling things/product.

Am quoting TS's old old first post.

Those who still don't or don't want to understand that people refuse to listen to your taking-over-the-world-with-soap-cosmetics-and-vitamins plans.

This is exactly why people hate MLM. When people say no to something, you FORCE them to listen. Just another kind of business model? Not really, this one takes on your personal life - your family, friends, siblings.... all their target.

If you saw a credit card dude in mid valley you can just walk away.

Still think that this is just a typical kind of business model?

QUOTE(Flo_2010 @ Mar 3 2012, 12:03 PM)
My upline got me into buying this n that. Some helps some don't. But what I hate isn't about he/she persuading me to buy. Its about whenever he/she is with me, they only talks about MLM endlessly or money-making related. Friendship isn't about taking advantages. smile.gif
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Still want to have a life? MLM is not for you.

When you are ready to see everything in your life to be related to vitamins or cosmetics or soap, you are ready.

Otherwise, if you are still interested to stuff like DOTA, Liverpool/MU, politics, korean drama.... etc. You would want to take a more normal route and work a day job.

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