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TSbasSist
post Jan 29 2007, 03:26 PM, updated 19y ago

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Updated: The PSU auto ON/OFF after switching on the PSU button without swtiching on the CPU power button. i also plug out the power button and reset button wires. The problem remains the same. cannot load the post screen. On.. off.. on .. and Off again.

Updated 2: The following link is exactly the same problem as mine. Check it out if u are willing to know my real problem and help me out thanks wink.gif

"But this keeps going on and off until I turn off the hard power on the back of the PSU.."
"continuous power up/power down cycle.."

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cf...hreadid=1972630


my spec:

Pentium C2D E6400 + TR Ultra-120
Gigabyte P965 DS3 F7
2x1GB Mushkin DDR2-800
XFX 7600GT 256MB DDR3 XXX
WD 250GB Sata2
Enermax FMA2 460W

Been using it for 2 months plus. Bios flashed on the first day purchased. Tried 1.375vcore 400x8 Orthos 32 Hours +. 58-60c. idle 48-50c.

Problem:

Morning wake up. PC stays at the windows login page. login, system warned that i got blue screen and i assumed that it restart itself that's why i was seeing it in the login page. ok. i restarted pc and enter the bios. set my vdimm to 2.1v for my Mushkin 4-4-4-12. Login to windows. Click here click there then mouse pointer hang there. CTRL ATL DEL no response. press the reset button. Then my pc just won't boot but then PSU is on.. then off then on then off again. Not really restarting but rather insufficient voltage provided like.

Before that is 2.0vdimm 4-4-4-12. vcore 1.375v for 400x8=3.2Ghz. temperature is in acceptable range. core temp about 60c with Orthos on. and i tried the setting 2.0vdimm and 1.375vcore Orthos priming 9 hours without error. This was last night. After that i been folding. then this morning woke up the problem occured.

What i've done so far:

1.checked and the cables and wires installed correctly.
2.reset bios.
3.remove one of the rams.
4.remove both rams.
5.remove gc.
6.remove hdd.
7.take the mobo out and on it only has rams,proc,hsf,gc.
8.repeated step 1-5.
9.loosen the screw of the hsf.
10.totally remove the screw of the hsf and just leave the hsf on the proc.
11. tested with my fren's psu.
12. changed the psu's wire.

still, gave me the same problem. No beep sound. No post screen. The psu is on.. then off.. then on then on. Randomly. and my fren's psu works fine for his rig. Proc is not heating up.


What i expected:
Should be either Mobo or Proc. But most probably should be Mobo.



Anyone can point out and help? smile.gif

This post has been edited by basSist: Feb 5 2007, 03:50 PM
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post Jan 29 2007, 03:43 PM

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I think you guessing it right. It's either mobo or cpu. Cause you overclocked the thing. If you have no other mobo or cpu to test then bring both to the shop where you bought the system. They should be able to help you test and see which is faulty. Depending on which shop you bought it from. Some shop will not test for you and some will give stupid excuse. Hope you bought it from a good shop.
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post Jan 29 2007, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Jan 29 2007, 03:43 PM)
I think you guessing it right. It's either mobo or cpu. Cause you overclocked the thing. If you have no other mobo or cpu to test then bring both to the shop where you bought the system. They should be able to help you test and see which is faulty. Depending on which shop you bought it from. Some shop will not test for you and some will give stupid excuse. Hope you bought it from a good shop.
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i bought the processor from a forumer. and the Mobo is from Viewnet. Any advices? smile.gif
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post Jan 29 2007, 05:58 PM

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Try to leave the Bios battery for overnight. might be worth to test it. Gd luck,
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post Jan 31 2007, 01:53 PM

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Problem is occuring. anyone can help out?

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New problem occured. Check it 1st post's Updated details wink.gif
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post Feb 5 2007, 04:05 PM

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Dont worry, if mobo prob then just send it back to RMA. I RMA my S3 before. As long as no burn mark then they will accept RMA one.
But seems like ur PSU might have some prob.
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post Feb 5 2007, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Feb 5 2007, 04:05 PM)
Dont worry, if mobo prob then just send it back to RMA. I RMA my S3 before. As long as no burn mark then they will accept RMA one.
But seems like ur PSU might have some prob.
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ya going to take it for RMA soon. i've tried my fren's PSU.. still the same. No miracle.
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post Feb 5 2007, 07:48 PM

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if running default setup oso got pr0b?
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post Feb 6 2007, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Feb 5 2007, 07:48 PM)
if running default setup oso got pr0b?
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now even cant start up. reset bios. cant.

last time same problem but i manage to start up after whole day testing.. buthen prime @ stock no problem. so i oced it to my previous setting. but after few days after restarting pc due to windows update then cannot start up again. No post screen. continous on/off PSU.

i just brought the mobo to service center for RMA today wink.gif the technician tested it and said mobo's fault. luckily not my proc laugh.gif.. have to wait for one month..
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post Feb 6 2007, 09:03 PM

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hmmm happen to me before,but it because wrong bios flash...on...offf...on...of never post oso until it burn my 7950gx2...so sad...then send both to rma and get back my board and flash it to f10 and been runing 24/7 until today for 1 week plus edi....
so in your case just rma it la...
oopss didnt see ur post on top there...good rma edi..so wait la...buy a chepo board for backup lor...

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post Feb 6 2007, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(kaiser_falco @ Feb 6 2007, 09:03 PM)
hmmm happen to me before,but it because wrong bios flash...on...offf...on...of never post oso until it burn my 7950gx2...so sad...then send both to rma and get back my board and flash it to f10 and been runing 24/7 until today for 1 week plus edi....
so in your case just rma it la...
oopss didnt see ur post on top there...good rma edi..so wait la...buy a chepo board for backup lor...
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really? then my bios flashing last time should be incorrect. no wonder when in windows, everest,system information,sisoft sandra showing my bios version is F5 but last time i had flashed it with the F7. but the post screen showing F7 rclxub.gif


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post Feb 6 2007, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(basSist @ Feb 6 2007, 10:03 PM)
really? then my bios flashing last time should be incorrect. no wonder when in windows, everest,system information,sisoft sandra showing my bios version is F5 but last time i had flashed it with the F7. but the post screen showing F7  rclxub.gif
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hmmm but i think this happen coz you dont reset the dma pool or sumtin...you know when you flash bios...some of the other software will say it the old bios version before flash,but boot up will show your true bios...but i think this is normal...since you dont erased the dma thinggy..



take a look at the attachment below as you can see:


the bios is f10 but dmi pool detected it as f3....this is actually normal thing nottin to worry bout...taken directly from everest...

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post Feb 7 2007, 12:16 AM

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Can i ask one Q .. what's RMA?
My computer has a similar prob now .. duno what's wrong .. I on my pc, the cpu is running but it never show anything in the monitor. It doesnt go on at all either than running the pc(dunno run for what .. the fan is moving and stuff)

If monitor got prob, also couldnt be coz my keyboard has no signal as well ... What's wronggggggggggggggg? Can someone plz tell me ........?? HELPPPP sad.gif
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post Feb 7 2007, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(kaiser_falco @ Feb 6 2007, 11:29 PM)
hmmm but i think this happen coz you dont reset the dma pool or sumtin...you know when you flash bios...some of the other software will say it the old bios version before flash,but boot up will show your true bios...but i think this is normal...since you dont erased the dma thinggy..
take a look at the attachment below as you can see:
the bios is f10 but dmi pool detected it as f3....this is actually normal thing nottin to worry bout...taken directly from everest...
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oh.. it is normal la? hmm nvm lah just wait for my board from RMA and c how first. btw how to erased the dma thingy?

QUOTE(sampan1027 @ Feb 7 2007, 12:16 AM)
Can i ask one Q .. what's RMA?
My computer has a similar prob now .. duno what's wrong .. I on my pc, the cpu is running but it never show anything in the monitor. It doesnt go on at all either than running the pc(dunno run for what .. the fan is moving and stuff)

If monitor got prob, also couldnt be coz my keyboard has no signal as well ... What's wronggggggggggggggg? Can someone plz tell me ........?? HELPPPP sad.gif
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here u go:

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A Return Merchandise Authorization or Return Material Authorization (RMA) is a transaction whereby the recipient of a product arranges to return defective goods to the supplier to have the product repaired or replaced or in order to receive a refund or credit for another product from the same retailer or corporation. In many of the cases a RMA is generally given after a series of testing for Eg: for a Hardware product, if there exists a defect in the product, the engineer on the call will have to analyse whether the hardware suffered a CID (Customer Induced Damage). This is done to generally not accept the losses on behalf of the supplier due to negligence from the retailer. The product then goes to the scanning vendor who will try to repair the defect in case it is a minor defect and replace it in another order that he gets. If both these tests fail, then the good is sent to the principal vendor for replacement and the principal vendor will again check whether there were any defects in the product or whether the product has been tampered with and finally if all the tests fail and there is a general production defect, the supplier replaces the material with the same material which is not defective or he issues a credit note to the customer or the retailer that can be reimbursed at a later point in time.Also good for exchanges.

Generally, this is done with goods that are new and have been received DOA ("dead on arrival") or when they have become defective while still under warranty. The customer generally calls a customer service phone number and gets an "RMA number" or designation which is written on the bill of lading or other packaging. This is so that the supplier's own shipping and receiving department knows how to route the returned goods and is assured that the customer has talked to someone in customer service.

The specifics vary from one retailer to another and between industries. In some cases the retailer sends RMA forms and packing labels, sometimes even shipping packaging for the return shipment. The labels may provide for the retailer to pay the shipping charges, e.g., by freepost.

It is often a lengthy and highly bureaucratic process which is inconvenient to the customer.

Regardless of the details, the process is referred to as an RMA. Sometimes the term is informally used as a verb: "I'll have to RMA that new system because it was DOA."
u can open a new thread to seek help for ur problem wink.gif but as ur pc keep running and nothing come out then should be ur graphic card or memory problem. try to give more details about the exact situation of ur problem in ur thread. thanks biggrin.gif
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post Feb 7 2007, 11:19 AM

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I think u need to disable those o'c setting b4 flash BIOS.
3 Gigabyte users in C2D o'c board killed thier mobo becos dint set default those o'c setting b4 flash BIOS. Im the 1st one then kaiser_falco and blaxez, now u are the forth victim. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(basSist @ Feb 7 2007, 12:44 AM)
oh.. it is normal la? hmm nvm lah just wait for my board from RMA and c how first. btw how to erased the dma thingy?
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if u use the utilities in the bios right before u flash it it will give you option weather wanna keep the bios dma or delete it,if you keep it this is wat happen but no harm done,yea like yehlai said rules of flashing...revert back everything to original bios setting not the oc setting...it will give you problem...but for me asus is much more smart mobo since you dont have to reset cmos the old way just shut the power down and wait few minutes then it will reset itself,for gigabyte open the casing and reset the cmos....anyway wen you get it from rma,this wat happen to me la,i install everything back then the problem is still there...i reset c mos then only it boot up properly....
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Feb 7 2007, 11:19 AM)
I think u need to disable those o'c setting b4 flash BIOS.
3 Gigabyte users in C2D o'c board killed thier mobo becos dint set default those o'c setting b4 flash BIOS. Im the 1st one then kaiser_falco and blaxez, now u are the forth victim.  sweat.gif
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hm.. then i think i was flashing it without set default for them. sweat.gif

QUOTE(kaiser_falco @ Feb 7 2007, 12:45 PM)
if u use the utilities in the bios right before u flash it it will give you option weather wanna keep the bios dma or delete it,if you keep it this is wat happen but no harm done,yea like yehlai said rules of flashing...revert back everything to original bios setting not the oc setting...it will give you problem...but for me asus is much more smart mobo since you dont have to reset cmos the old way just shut the power down and wait few minutes then it will reset itself,for gigabyte open the casing and reset the cmos....anyway wen you get it from rma,this wat happen to me la,i install everything back then the problem is still there...i reset c mos then only it boot up properly....
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ok got it wink.gif still have 3weeks++ to go. how long did u get back the RMA board?
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same problem.. i kick it
and it works find again
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post Feb 8 2007, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(EmperorMeng @ Feb 8 2007, 12:40 AM)
same problem.. i kick it
and it works find again
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kicked it? i don't dare to do that man. better take to RMA to solve the problem entirely. the kicking method won't last u long wink.gif

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