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SUSKLboy92
post Nov 14 2016, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Gregyong @ Nov 14 2016, 11:28 AM)
inb4 KD Najib Razak tongue.gif
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besok news signed deal with China for next three subs, Hussein Onn, Badawi and Bijan brows.gif

QUOTE(keown83 @ Nov 14 2016, 11:28 AM)
very jelly with singapore

LMS only but still armed with Mica

ours asal nama OPV & LMS jer, terus togel can only have main gun..then continuously say will add missile will add missle which i guess until the vessel retired also will not going to see that happen
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suruh johor commando taruh bomb je lah whistling.gif

Agree with you the Kedahs should be armed with missiles too, but for the LMS it would be a "nice to have" not a "should have".
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post Nov 14 2016, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Nov 14 2016, 04:29 PM)
yeah..even in PD also got..new digital one..
speaking of msian citizen joining SAF..gov want to the enforce rules now..any msian currently or want joint SAF is either kena detain or lucut warganegara..heheh
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post Nov 14 2016, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(mcnoodle @ Nov 14 2016, 04:48 PM)
The only place you can infiltrate would be a foxhole. laugh.gif
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Toilethole... that I dig laugh.gif
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post Nov 15 2016, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Nov 14 2016, 05:18 PM)
that is ex.. the one they looking is still with Malaysian citizenship or currently holding Malaysian passport..
mostly joint NS right?? cause to meet SG PR requirement i think..
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Parents MY citizen yang pegang SG PR, children (edit: PR), children kena NS jugak
Indirectly MY govt mau attack those working in SG lah... rolleyes.gif

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post Nov 15 2016, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 15 2016, 10:40 AM)
huh?  confused.gif
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If you are a Malaysian citizen holding a Singaporean Permanent Residency, your children need to serve NS, even if neither they nor you have Singaporean citizenship

Probably they will be posted to Civil Defence, but serving in the Armed Forces is not out of the question
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post Nov 15 2016, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 15 2016, 11:12 AM)
Assuming the children are also PR & live in SG la (ie 2nd gen PR).....

If the kids lived with their grandparents in JB of course la not applicable. U make it sound like children of PR automatically compulsory NS.
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post Nov 15 2016, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 15 2016, 12:41 PM)
not a must la.. some before NS age give up PR lor... but then they would be barred from working and certain privileges in sg (females ok)..
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Correct. Unless you give up PR before reaching call-up age, if you are a Malaysian citizen with no SG PR but 1 of your parents has SG PR, you are eligible for NS.

And if you give up, can say bye bye to any thought of a career in SG rolleyes.gif SG Govt has damn long memory and is pretty vindictive in this matter brows.gif

What do you mean by "females ok"?
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post Nov 15 2016, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 15 2016, 03:04 PM)
nope, that's not right... even if any of your parent is citizen but you dont hold singkie passpork from birth you dont need to serve

means, females renounce pr still can work in sg in the future
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Okay, I re-read the rules.
Children of PRs who are also PRs themselves need to serve NS.
So MilitaryMadness I was wrong there.

HA! Sorry, but in my (friend's) experience, no. Female or male, they do take a dim view and query why you renounced PR and then want to come back.
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post Nov 15 2016, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Nov 15 2016, 06:05 PM)
Unconfirmed report...there's already contract for six NASAMS launchers for TNI

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Hnnnnggghhh
Bunny tergamam no comment laugh.gif

QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Nov 15 2016, 09:23 PM)
terima kasih
aku nak sangat jumpa ko depan2 boleh tak?
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post Nov 16 2016, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 16 2016, 03:38 PM)
Seriously, what is the problem with the Kedah-class not equipped with missiles? At least the Exocets if not the SeaRAM?

IIRC the RMN has a good number of Exocets. In the grand scope of things, is it so costly to install a few on the Kedah-class? A ship only needs 8 missiles anyway (assuming the on-board FCS can already support them). :confused:
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Nov 16 2016, 05:07 PM)
because right now it will only served as Patrol Vessel role only
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As ever, I believe its budget issue as well as operational requirements
6 Kedahs x 8 missiles x about EUR 1m each = Rm224 million

Thats not chump change. Even if we arm just 2 Kedahs at a time, thats Rm75M... its the choice between up gunning the Kedahs with token* antiship weapons or buying another 1.5 LMS platforms... choose.

*with the vast array of SAMs and CIWS in existence the best antship weapon is a sublaunched torpedo. Thats the Western doctrine anyway.

P.s. RAM missile is the same price and come in 21 round launcher... you figure that price out I already rclxub.gif

QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 16 2016, 11:50 AM)
agree, it will cost more, and not happen soon, at lease ofter SGPV is built. i think LMS can past to 2nd tier ship yard to built.
also BM5/BM6/Tun Azizan after Lahad Datu standoff,it  add role as mobile sea base, but it not really good solution.

Muhibbah Enginerring propose mobile offshore base see on DSA 2016 much better solution。future Mindef can consider it. put 2 in semporna 1 in Sandakan offshore。

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Damn it looks big!

The ships are old. If it saves money to decom then, we should. Similar to UK Armed Forces, suck up a capability gap for 5-10 years then come back into the game with a bigger wallet

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post Nov 16 2016, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Nov 16 2016, 06:38 PM)
We have plenty of exocet stockpile laying about and MBDA offers upgrade for MM38 to MM40 block 2
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I dunno, if atreyu can explain why we do not use them if they are "lying around"...?

Wild-ass guess here: perhaps they have an operational lifespan, if we take them out of store and install that means they start to depreciate already, in a few years will need to buy replacement? hmm.gif
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post Nov 16 2016, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Nov 16 2016, 08:06 PM)
These missiles are self contained
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I know jack shit about them

But I know sea spray and air is highly corrosive

And taking them out could mean activating them 1 way or another; like a car - leaving it in storage, battery disconnected, tanks drained, tires deflated etc. is different from keeping it ready to use ie launch.

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post Nov 16 2016, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Nov 16 2016, 08:58 PM)
exocet mm38 have long been out-of-production but many navies still can be seen carrying it around
maybe mbda give really great support? periodic replacement? meh who knows?
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MBDA is giving support for now, and as ayanami_tard said offering update to the much better MM40 Block 3

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