QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Nov 3 2016, 01:53 AM)
Tabung derma mmrca.
Military Thread V22
Military Thread V22
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Nov 3 2016, 01:58 AM
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Nov 3 2016, 06:15 AM
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Nov 3 2016, 05:55 AM) its just a marketing agreement but then again boustead literally got monopoly on msian naval shipbuilding industry I think it would be extremely difficult for us to have 2 naval shipbuilding.We dun have the means to support it unless suddenly government massive built up the navy fleet. I would be hard for us to export it as well. |
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Nov 3 2016, 10:16 AM
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Nov 3 2016, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(thpace @ Nov 3 2016, 12:24 PM) Around half price of pt91m. Cv90 120t more gooding.Not tat cheap as well in comparison the 105mm gun is more toward ifv and support role and hardly will dent any mordern mbt. But if it can be used in Indonesia, surely can be used also in malaysia give our terrain and road are quite similar |
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Nov 3 2016, 12:50 PM
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Nov 3 2016, 12:56 PM
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Nov 3 2016, 02:52 PM
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Nov 3 2016, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 3 2016, 02:56 PM) 4000. Fair point. Which is y I said stupid and over ambitious project for gempita. But that is why we should have bought off-the-shelf. We keep paying extra for TOT (eg Meko, Gagah Samudera) but we never expand on them and in the end turns out we could have bought off the shelf for much cheaper. I mean would ATM really absolutely hate to use, say, Germany Boxer (maximum US$ 5 million for OTS deal) and find nowhere else to spend the US$ 1.25 billion we would save on the project? 15 to 5 and the LMS buy is the single most sensible sounding idea I've heard in Msian defence for some time. Its just that we wish it wasn't China... and reportedly the boats are extremely low spec... I dunno. I assume its like construction program rather than hire purchase; ie final payment upon delivery. Same as Boustead and ships. Btw no matter who win the 8x8. The government would want to be assemble here in malaysia. Isn't there were plan yo buy more meko in 15-5 This post has been edited by yinchet: Nov 3 2016, 03:08 PM |
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Nov 4 2016, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Nov 4 2016, 04:19 PM) Fit to mission, asw and mcmv will be on different platform. 18 unit enough?that why the end number will be 18 unit and I believe this will replace the all FAC with laksamana class alltoghether phase by phase I heard it will use mtu engine, it would also use some chinese system. |
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Nov 4 2016, 05:59 PM
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Nov 7 2016, 04:47 PM
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Honestly I seriously doubt the lms will be using china cms.
Most probably will be using thales cms. |
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Nov 7 2016, 04:50 PM
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Nov 7 2016, 05:08 PM
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Nov 7 2016, 07:48 PM
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Nov 8 2016, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Nov 7 2016, 08:51 PM) they say the ships are wired so that it can fire asm but i dunno if said wiring is compatible wif nsm Meh, the wiring could according to nsm requirements not necessarily follow china standard.Anyway are those wired so hard to tukar in the future? Iirc there were 1 thai navy ship have to rewired the entire ship. |
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Nov 8 2016, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 8 2016, 12:12 AM) if Mk110 57mm + MSI + Thales cms hard for get cheap price .... the Mk110 it self already around usd 8+- million Radar very likely to be western.personally not like 57mm at all。。。。 well what wrong with China CMS ? if you using Tacticos or other, it still need china write code to integrate there radar, Main gun etc to CMS, means extra cost from 2 party. |
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Nov 8 2016, 12:43 AM
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Nov 8 2016, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Nov 8 2016, 10:11 AM) 4 instead of 6 for first batch Dengar kata samudera class tu we did not buy the ip.I still remember the original deal is 2+4 and the whole ship going to be 18 with all are ships have fit to mission setting. So maybe the weapon setting will be vary by batch by default Some say the lms deal wee also same did not include ip. |
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Nov 8 2016, 12:07 PM
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I wonder what will happen if we just sent our fighter jets bomb some abu Sayyaf base and mnlf base then pretend nothing happens at all.
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Nov 8 2016, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 8 2016, 11:45 AM) am not complaining, I think 15 to 5 and LMS are some of the best ideas we ever came up with. Just want to know about the practicalities of this 'modular system'. Adding tooth on kedah class will have to wait for midlife upgradeRoyal Navy's 6 Type 45s for example, share 4 sets of Harpoon SSMs, whichever 4 ships are deploying gets them while the 2 sitting in dock don't. I can imagine us doing something similar if we actually do buy the gear. but did we ever buy the missiles for Kedah class? I don't think so... likewise for LMS will we actually buy the missiles? or FFBNW-but-actually-didn't-buy again? 1 more thing. typically MCM ships are built with plastic hulls. LMS-MCM won't be...? |
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