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 Nov 2 2016, 11:56 AM
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If at any time Malaysia is under threat, I think it would be in Malaysia's interest to secure the straits. The straits do face the most important administrative, industrial and commercial parts of Malaysia. If Malaysia doesn't secure it by whatever means, who will? Wait for some enemy amphibious force to land in Morib?
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Nov 2 2016, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(mcnoodle @ Nov 2 2016, 12:20 PM) Someone earlier posted that Msia no need ally with anyone, so if trouble starts then why should others bother? Ally or not, the straits represent the main shipping route between east and west. If the straits were to be closed or blockaded, a lot of countries will be affected.  This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Nov 2 2016, 12:28 PM |
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Nov 2 2016, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 2 2016, 12:35 PM) And that is why we should find an ally, because in case of anything we may well find ourselves not only being the pelanduk between the gajahs, but also no one willing to be our allies for fear of offending the gajahs I'm not a big fan of the concept of 'alliances'. You're basically like a group of mountain climbers each tied with a rope to the next member. If someone is stupid/incompetent enough to fall, he'll drag the entire group down the cliff. You should have friends, but never have allies. This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Nov 2 2016, 12:47 PM |
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Nov 2 2016, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 2 2016, 12:49 PM) True, that is how WW1 started after all. Either way, have to be careful, allies can easily turn into vassals.However, when you are the weakest one in the group (we probably would be) than it can only ever be in your favour  |
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Nov 2 2016, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Nov 2 2016, 12:56 PM) and if not satisfied can return to the shop?? Buyer must pay for postage. |
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Nov 2 2016, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Nov 2 2016, 01:13 PM) uk is too far they may decide not to help but unsure UK political clout quite strong tho. May help with that.their aircraft carrier is nice but its not ready unless we are talking about a war in 2025 laaa  This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Nov 2 2016, 01:19 PM |
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Nov 2 2016, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 2 2016, 01:29 PM) carpet nuclear bomb to form kra canal  or pay toll via indon waters |
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Nov 2 2016, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Nov 2 2016, 01:38 PM) what hantu jepun.. if by rights all hantu here would be Tall, Caucasian and speak with Australian accent. True, Japanese forces sustained relatively light casualties at the time. Wiki says they have less than 10,000 killed while commonwealth forces had 10x that number killed.To many of them lost their lives defending Malaya from Japan when the brits run to regroup in Singapore |
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Nov 2 2016, 02:02 PM
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People say the 2007 UN peacekeeping operation in East Timor went very well because the participants are all FPDA members (Australia, Malaysia and NZ) and are familiar with each other's procedures and methods. So no misunderstanding of SOP and military cultures happened.
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Nov 3 2016, 06:09 AM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Nov 3 2016, 01:53 AM) wait RMA is what? Hahaha I think he didn't know Malaysian arrmy doesn't have the 'Royal' prefix unlike the other branches. |
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Nov 3 2016, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 3 2016, 12:20 PM) Army's New Up-Gunned Stryker Shoots Farther, Hits Harder Is that all?In Russia even Gaz Tigr installed with 30mm autocannon.   |
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Nov 3 2016, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(thpace @ Nov 3 2016, 12:43 PM) If we get another batxh of pt91.. could throw to BUMAR.. go sell some of the anders light tank.. Do they even build those anymore? Nowadays even Polen army use Leopards.Though it still in concept only |
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Nov 3 2016, 02:31 PM
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Seriously, these new Russian Army Ural lorries looked like they rolled off a factory in the 1950s.
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Nov 6 2016, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 6 2016, 09:49 PM) Kornet is the best Russian ATGM so I'm not surprised if new production cost is that high* A usually quoted price tag for a modern TOW system is $1 million USD for a launcher unit and 10 missiles.Not sure I believe that infographic, Spike shouldn't be that expensive... it is reputed to be one of the cheapest ATGMs around for its performance. *The problem with reported prices of ATGMs is that the idiot journalists tend to ask only for a single price tag and don't separate the prices of the launch unit and the missile itself  |
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Nov 6 2016, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 6 2016, 10:25 PM) And Kornet is known to be about the most expensive Russian ATGM, which is why they continued to develop Metis-M. Among infantry-operated ATGM, perhaps. Vehicle-launched missiles are usually far more expensive. |
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Nov 6 2016, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Nov 6 2016, 10:41 PM) Leopard 2RI were brought using army's LCU 1200DWT to Natuna....so these two 1500 DWT LCUs will be more than capable. Why deploy heavy tanks to distant islands in the middle of the sea? Unless the TNI expects China deploy Marines to land and try take over the island (which isn't the smart thing to do, thus China wouldn't probably try it) this isn't very efficient/useful. A naval/air attack/naval blockade on the islands would be more expected.  |
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Nov 6 2016, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 6 2016, 10:52 PM) dun get it... Haha this is not big gun battleship era anymore la. I doubt 76mm naval guns (1 per ship) will do that much damage. just a show of force... natuna being an island will be subjected to naval guns n strikes if prc were to invade, doubt they would send in tanks I'm more concerned that if PLAN threaten Natuna any significant TNI-AL reinforcement would practically be forced to pass through the SCS area between Singapore and Sarawak to get there. The area is relatively narrow and it's seems easy to get ambushed there. This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Nov 6 2016, 11:03 PM |
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Nov 7 2016, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Nov 7 2016, 08:44 AM) Philippine mayor linked to drugs shot dead in jail by police: reports Haha that's pretty convenient. The 'he was resisting' excuse. |
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Nov 7 2016, 10:44 AM
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^^^
Seriously, Malaysia seriously need ask for favor from CIA look for him and send a hellfire missile up this guy's ass. |
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Nov 7 2016, 02:50 PM
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I kinda half-expected shipbuilders worldwide send their best men to Malaysia to try and get a deal after RMN said they are overhauling the entire fleet.
Why is this not yet happened? |
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