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TitanRev
post Jun 1 2017, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Oyaji @ May 28 2017, 10:48 PM)
Hi guys, want to ask. Recently at the back passenger seat on the left side the floor and mat is soaked wet after driving in the rain. I suspect the rainwater seep through the undercarriage to the floor. Any idea where is the possible area where the water can enter? Can I check it myself or need to go to SC?
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Check you fuel pump access cover. It's the one under the seat. It is held by some sort of glue. Overtime this glue will get wear off and if you drive through deep water. Water can enter from there. I've drilled self locking screws onto that cover so it stays in place and tighter.

QUOTE(soyabean123 @ May 30 2017, 12:39 PM)
Hi Guys, my Saga FLX rear lamp no light when press on break. At first thought it was the break-lamp burned out. But, technician said is the 'mother-board' for the lamp got problem. Just change that 'mother-board' will do, no need change the whole lamp.

Anyone know where can i buy and get it fix in KL or selangor?
That workshop do not have stock and need to order which takes 3-5 days. I am going to outstation soon and i hope to get it fix ASAP. Any suggestion?
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FLX rear lights are LED, so if 1 side not working is the LED driver inside the light assembly problem. Your other side of the brake light and 3rd brake light still works?
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post Jun 1 2017, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Jun 1 2017, 02:31 PM)
then changed to shiberu already.  whistling.gif
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I'm still driving the saga even I have the shiberu or the type R...Saga best.. rclxms.gif
TitanRev
post Jun 1 2017, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Jun 1 2017, 03:36 PM)
we know we know... no need tell whole world... whistling.gif
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I tell you only mah..
TitanRev
post Jun 2 2017, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Jun 2 2017, 10:03 AM)
you posted R35 best at here u think others wont know meh ?  whistling.gif
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I poorfag no R35. Anyway my brake pad ah....
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post Jun 20 2017, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jun 12 2017, 11:50 PM)
I have not service my Saga FL Aircond before since 2011. Should I do so even though it's still blowing cold air and didnt give me any problem.

I think my IAFM giving me some sound now, should change whole thing new or just repair it. Saw a alot video on youtube with number to contact to fix it.
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How loud is the sound? if it's minor, you can repair it without changing the entire IAFM module. It's a very simple fix. I've DIY fixed mine and another friend's FLX so far no issue.


QUOTE(JamesBotak @ Jun 13 2017, 07:11 AM)
Same as mine. The clock is basically f**cked up.

First few months after I bought my car, I tried hard to find ways to fix it but no solution unless change the whole dash meter (maybe).

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The clock goes out of sync has more to do with the quartz crystal inside the clock. The crystal is enclosed inside a metal shell aka Quartz oscillator any changes in temperature or pressure will affect it's vibration thus causing the time to go out of sync overtime. Also how the oscillator is mounted on the microchip also have some effect. I think I share this info before


QUOTE(kashvin @ Jun 13 2017, 03:03 PM)
I plan to replace my spark plug..when the workshop remove the ignition coil the rubber broken..now he telling me need to replace new ignition coil n need to open the engine to do it? By the way I never repair n the car is moving normal is it safe?
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No need to open the head cover to change the broken ignition coil. The ignition coil low boot act as an insulator. You can buy a new ignition coil and change yourself. it is a very easy task.


QUOTE(naveenkalai7 @ Jun 15 2017, 10:28 AM)
ANyone using works engineering crank pulley for saga? Any review?
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using it for 4 years up already. good product.

QUOTE(TkTunG @ Jun 15 2017, 03:58 PM)
Hi guys, e throttle controller n e manage, which one suitable for CVT if I plan to get one of this to reduce the slow responce during pickup? Thx.
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E-manage will not work with FLX ECU. The ECU on the FLX is different from BLM
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post Jun 20 2017, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jun 20 2017, 01:11 PM)
It sound like Im driving a diesel car engine, where its noticeable when im sitting inside the driver seat. When car is moving.

Can you share with me how do you DIY fixed it?
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try record a video and post it up here.
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post Feb 23 2018, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(chilskater @ Feb 23 2018, 03:43 PM)
i am interested to know what light mod can be done to increase FC.. going to mod my dad car
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You mean to improve the fuel consumption. Not make it worst.. biggrin.gif How bad is your current FC now.
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post Mar 8 2018, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(naveenkalai7 @ Mar 5 2018, 11:53 AM)
Hi members,

Recently changed brake pad and rotor to performance type including brak oil flush and change new one..

But the brake feel still same like original one.. supposed to be improved than previous one..

Any idea what should i do?
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Did you change your brake hose to braided ones? My setup is braided hose, better pads, stock rotors and better brake fluid. I'm using the likes of Endless RF650 and Redline RL-600 brake fluids. For me the pads I currently runs are rated to 500c they do bite very well even under very hard and late braking. Only thing is whether your rotor can take it or not. I use my car for track racing a lot mainly time attack and I've always pushing the stock rotors limit to its edge. So far I'm amazed how the stock blank rotors can withstand with higher temp pads. There's was not brake fade but I thing I learn on is that the stock rotors if you want to brake late and hard do it in short duration as I found them not able to withstand long duration with the brakes engaged.

I've managed to try the brakes at around 100 to 50m marks couple with heel and toe engine braking before some turns on stock rotors just with better pads and lines and fluid. I'm still on my stock brake pump and stock drum+ shoes at the back. Since our car is not very heavy, I see no reason to overdo the brakes. Like BBK or bigger pump which you will upset the brake balance and makes the car less compliant and stable under braking conditions.

My next change will be going to 800c pads with sloted rotors to see if they are any better. But if you ask me, for a street machine, your stock rotor or black rotors with better pads, fluid and lines is more than enough to stop you good.

Here's my first outing with new blank rotors . It was a mistake because the rotors were not 100% run in yet as I thought they would so I was braking hard and all of the sudden I have can't feel the brakes at shooting down into Turn 1 of Sepang from the main straight.
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Another time attack event at MIMC where I brake really hard and late on the straight to a turn. This time the brakes didn't fade but when I ended my time attack session the rotors was purple blue and this was after it cool off some time.
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Images from some events. This was my first 3rd place win in this time attack series for the 1300cc category.
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Different wheels setup. Trying out a different offset and tire compound on the front at MIMC.
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post Mar 9 2018, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(naveenkalai7 @ Mar 9 2018, 10:22 AM)
Thank you sifu for the info, appreciate it much  thumbup.gif

Reason i change to performance rotor bcoz original rotor wore out ready so thats why changed it together.. Setting as per below

IMP formula brake pad - red colour
AR Racing cross drilled + slotted rotor
Millers dot 4 brake oil

Perhaps i should try braided hose as next upgrade.. or do i check my brake pump because car is 5++ years old and never checked it before..
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Go for the braided hoseIf your master pump not leaking then no issue.
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post Mar 22 2018, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(naveenkalai7 @ Mar 21 2018, 06:25 PM)
Hi all,

How does worn wheel bearing noise sounds like? My car got sound like "whoooo whoooo" whenever turn.. but not in straight road.. And this sound comes during cold start only..

Any sifu can help sad.gif
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If rear wheel bearing problem. You can hear deep humming sound once the car reach a certain speed and it keep having that humming sound until your car comes to a complete stop then when you start to drive again you will start to hear it. Low speed is kinda difficult to hear or in start stop traffic also hard to hear. you need to keep the car moving at speeds like 60-70
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post Mar 22 2018, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(akmalrosli @ Mar 22 2018, 02:08 AM)
Hi joe. What's tires are you using? The different tire compound setup
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I switch from Kumho V720 to Zestino 07RS soft compound tires TW140 to see the difference vs the V720.
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post Jun 6 2018, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(athrunzaru @ May 28 2018, 09:43 AM)
my plugs are now okay, some mods has been done to avoid the stuck-ness

after it was stuck, i tried to pull it off regardless of the damage as i thought it was still new it would not melt. in the end only the bottom part was stuck but the rubber was still soft enough to be pulled out. i put some silicone spray at the end of the coil boot to reduce the chance for it to be stuck again

then i remembered a post i read way back where titanrev changed his coils to tmworks. the culprit was the the inner rubber boot that grip the spark plugs tightly.  it was adviced to cut the inner boot if im not mistaken *someone please link the post* or upgrade the boots to tmworks ignite rev if we can afford it

another one is to use a lower heat rage spark plug, i used iridium IT20s when it got stuck. ironically the original NGK copper plugs also cause it to stuck. hence the problem was the inner rubber boot

ill post some pictures of the modified boot when i get back home. so far after the mod, removing the spark plugs is far easier than before
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QUOTE(athrunzaru @ May 28 2018, 03:27 PM)
okay, here is the story of my broken ignition coil boot...
i knew i have to replace all 4 of them since two are already torn for the top part. also my valve cover is leaking so a replacement is due as well. without an air compressor it is hard to blow out the bottom part of the coil which grips tightly to the spark plug, also using pliers might make it come out but i didnt dare to. off to the workshop for the replacement

it took a while for the mechanic to pull just 1 of them out, below is how it looked afterwards
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after all 4 had been replaced, the spark plugs were replaced as well. here is how the old one looks, cant remember which plug comes from which cylinder
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after that i went home and tried to check the plugs again, but the newly installed ignition coils were torn, again...at least not all of them. and i got lucky as the silicone glue used to glue the rubber to the plastic tube of the coil is not that strong, therefore it can be glued back if i want to.
i thought long and hard, almost at the point of contacting TM Works Malaysia for a set of Ignite REV ignition coils, then i remembered that the bottom rubber was the one that is holding the spark plugs tight.
i read back a post where titanrev to use an art knife to cut the bottom part so it will not hold the plugs too tight. so i did. below is the breakdown of the new ignition coil
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note that these coils are not original proton, the silicone glue is not that strong as the original, but it does its job as an ignition coil. fingers crossed it will not melt due to the excessive heat.
i pried off all the bottom rubber of the coils. the picture below shows the rubber bottom, the middle one is when it is turned inside-out, the last one is after the removal of the inner rubber
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the valve cover gasket is nothing special, just some silicone gasket to the valve covers, and some RTV sealant to seal it. below are some pics of the internals of my engine. mileage 76k
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put it all back together, add some silicone spray at the end so the spark plugs will not stick/easier to pull the plugs out. pray that it will serve miss s for a long time

thank you to this forum and its members for the ideas and contribution to our ageing car biggrin.gif
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Nice work....how is everyone doing?

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post Jun 8 2018, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(athrunzaru @ Jun 6 2018, 10:22 PM)
Without your idea n tests id probably traded it in for another car...or probably an engine swap laugh.gif
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Hahaha....just sharing information only
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post Jun 12 2018, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(kashvin @ Jun 11 2018, 12:40 AM)
How to improve the brake system?
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Just change to a steel braided hose and try. If not enough then only you change to better pads. You are good already. I'm using steel braided hose, better pads and stock rotor. The stock brakes are not so bad actually. I've tried them on trackdays and time attack numerous times. Late braking..etc

Jusy my personal opinion, the rear disc doesn't help much to improve braking coz the brake bias is at the front. I'm still rocking my rear drums.

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post Jun 21 2018, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(athrunzaru @ Jun 19 2018, 08:16 AM)
i am having problems starting my car every morning, after cranking it dies. took about more than 6 attempts then it sputters to life. i suspect is fuel pump, but:

-fuel pump is pumping as i wait for the noise to disappear then start the car
-battery voltage is 12.3v, didnt read when it was cranking. after it eventually starts voltage is 14.something so should be okay?
-cranking is strong, no weird issues
-starter motor? dont think so as one time car started "sputteringly" then it died
-spark plugs were changed when i did the coils and cam gasket
-fuel...95 or 97 still same

fuel pressure?
no to change car as got sentimental value. haha
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Did you change your fuel filter before? if no, please change that. Sometimes it's just a small neglected thing that makes us feel the car got problem. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 22 2018, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(athrunzaru @ Jun 22 2018, 08:38 AM)
i have...when it was around 40-50k if im not mistaken, but with an oem one. what if it still persists?
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Your current mileage?
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post Jun 25 2018, 01:01 PM

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[quote=naveenkalai7,Jun 22 2018, 05:37 PM]
[quote=LemonKnight,Jun 21 2018, 05:52 PM]
The oem mounting parts are RM350, labour should be RM80 ish?
Checked the price in nearby spare parts shop. OEM one he quoted rm 220 one set.. he said for BLM.. is it same parts for flx 1.6se too?
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FLX and BLM has different engine mounts
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post Jun 25 2018, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(athrunzaru @ Jun 22 2018, 12:14 PM)
77000++
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At what mileage you changed your fuel filter?
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post Apr 30 2019, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(Durianlife @ Apr 30 2019, 01:22 PM)
I have checked. Based on the photo, looks like there is no anti roll bar...😅😅

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You are taking pictures from the front of the car. The anti roll bar is behind the wheel. I see your anti roll bar there.
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post Apr 30 2019, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(athrunzaru @ Apr 13 2019, 10:03 AM)
Long time no post, sharing my new upgrade
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Did you port the 1.6 TB? I'm running a ported 1.6 TB. If you want to gain most out of this upgrade best is to port match your intake and intake tract also + port polish which I did on my car and it yield good results on the dyno. If just swapping the TB there will be gains but minimal and limited to certain RPM range also. But the main important part is to improve the flow, remove any ridges, sharp moulding flash. Mine now after years of abuse and use still outputs a healthy 98whp on Dyno Dynamics despite a drop from 103whp and im not joking with a 1.3 Campro proper mod you can get 100whp-103whp. it's proven.



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