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post Jun 29 2017, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jun 28 2017, 12:25 AM)
Strongly considering a used fofi 2012/2013 , sedan/HB still undecided. Generally any big issues like GB failure etc? 2012 averagely around 20k rm
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TCM , clutch , the drive train. Mine is a 2010 HB as well

Apart from that , it runs pretty solid. I recommend the HB for fun driving tho
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post Jun 30 2017, 10:07 PM

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First attempt in hypermiling. Managed to clock about 546km at 6.3l/100km . Normally it would be at 6.9-7.2l/100km . This is the first time my 7 year old fiesta clocked such millage

Used up various techniques which meant for hybrid car on conventional ones like traffic weaving , feather , pulse and glide

70% highway + 30% normal. This includes getting stuck in the infamous subang toll jam , Duke jam and other

No I did not do it during Raya week. It was like a month back

Model : Fiesta S (2010)

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post Jul 1 2017, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 1 2017, 02:51 AM)
Not bad. Similiar highway/city combination, I can rarely get lower than 7l/100km. Only 100% highway.

The thing about trying to drive economically with this car....the DCT does not like it.
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I agree DCT just hates it very much , so it's not tuned for that. Anyway on average with 120km/h in highway and normal roads , I am clocking about 7.0-7.2l/100km - which isn't too bad

Hypermiling on this car isn't fun


QUOTE(dares @ Jul 1 2017, 03:00 AM)
Yep if pure highway 5.x is easy....My best (ever) was 5.4l/100km, from Cameron Highlands to KL.
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Same thing , pure highway it clocks at 5.x
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post Jul 23 2017, 03:09 PM

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Is it common

My fiesta is having hard time shifting up. So I am in the highway , I want to accelerate from 80km/h to 110km/h to overtake

I hit the throttle , the car revs up to 6000rpm and it climbs very slowly to the speed. I hope it is not related to the TCM again


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post Jul 30 2017, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jul 25 2017, 12:02 PM)
now Honda City Hybrid also using dual clutch.
so how?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2017, 12:28 PM)
Honda > all

prasys when is the ETA of your Jazz? I heard there is a significant waiting period...
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Hopefully by August - mid or so


Anyway I was researching about the City/Jazz dual clutch. The 'lag' problem or so wouldn't happen because the battery is assisting and engaging the next gear , that means on lower gears , it is driven by eletric motor and also if it switches to higher gear , it just hands it off to engine - not sure if it has lags or what-so-ever

I'll probably make a video to do comparison


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post Aug 1 2017, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(Ricky300 @ Aug 1 2017, 10:18 PM)
2nd hand.....gear 1 if i not mistaken
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The 1.6 version or the 1.5 ?
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post Aug 14 2017, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Aug 14 2017, 03:46 PM)
yup
kind of sad fiesta price after 6 years is 30k only
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After 7 years my car is priced at 23K

Also stupid Vios with no ESC/ABS can sell for 29K , this one i cannot comprehend why or how it could be priced higher
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post Aug 15 2017, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Aug 15 2017, 10:34 AM)
itu la
honda pun sama
btw im not selling my fiesta
sudah buat major service tukar belt and everything
cuma kemik2 saja belum repair dan cat
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Aug 15 2017, 01:25 PM)
just because its Vios / City people think cannot have wear and tear la.
can last 20years/500,000km years without major overhaul.  rclxs0.gif  doh.gif
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Exactly , people think Vios/City = godlike cars
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post Aug 17 2017, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(giggs_509 @ Aug 17 2017, 07:18 AM)
Is it ok to buy 2010 fiesta? Any major problems?
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How much and what's the millage of the car ?



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post Aug 21 2017, 10:02 PM

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Thought of sharing my quick experience with Fiesta's DCT vs Honda Jazz Hybrid DCT

The DCT on the Jazz Hybrid is more refined , no stupid jerkiness . I believe the electric motor is doing a great job in masking the lag created by engine. Since stop-go traffic is handled by electric motor , it just masks it

There is a slight throttle lag , not sure if its electric motor + engine trying to work it out or that's how the dual clutch works

Haven't trashed the car yet , so not sure how it picks up in highway or how it feels in Highway . To me it looks like the japs did some fine tuning to the Hybrid engine to work with Malaysian road conditions and all

Having said that , Fiesta's fabric seats > Honda and also Fiesta's stock speakers are the beast. I mean you get superb sound quality for stock (okie)

Will keep you guys posted
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post Aug 22 2017, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Aug 22 2017, 08:09 AM)
Thats the advantage of electric motor.
you get 100% torque from the electric motor at 1rpm.
i think the slight lag is a there to protect the gearbox.
instant 100% torque all the time will kill the gearbox faster.

u sure you wont miss the jerkiness after all these years?  rclxs0.gif
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I miss Fiesta's handling. The jazz handling is a joke

Haven't tested high speed yet , I'll keep you guys posted about it
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post Aug 22 2017, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Aug 22 2017, 02:57 PM)
yeah. ford fiesta handling hard to beat.
whack corner kaw kaw dun feel anything one....
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Here is comparison of the jazz hybrid (2017) and fiesta (2010)

Build Quality and all - Fiesta beats hands down. Capless Fuel entry , superb seats , good speakers

Handling and Ride - Okay this is mixed , on EV mode - Jazz wins hands down. It's super quiet , you can't hear a single thing , however on high speed cornering - Fiesta beats hands down. The fiesta handles corners very very well


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post Aug 22 2017, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 22 2017, 09:43 PM)
Thanks for the review.

Between Jazz Hybrid and Mazda2, which do you think would satisfy someone coming from a Fiesta?
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Mazda2 I would say , it still packs the punch. I've to give credits to Mazda

The interior is superb , you get all the nice features like LED headlights (The new mazda 2 has it) and a nice driver centric console just like fiesta. It's a driver's car . Plus Mazda's sound system on M2 sounds way better compared to Jazz Hybrid

Plus the brakes are all around disc brakes and the transmission on Mazda is very good IMHO. Plus the idle start-stop is a bonus on fuel saving especially start/stop traffic

The Jazz Hybrid is meant for eco warriors , the sports hybrid is more of a marketing gimmick , yes the electric motor works like a turo - this is how it works

0-60km/h - 1.8L NA engine - muahhahahaa , the electric motor provides instant torque
70-90km/h - 1.5L NA engine - again not too bad - motor is assisting
90km/h - 1.4L engine with a dead battery that is being lugged around. At higher speeds , the engine can't keep up with the demand , plus its atkinson engine (but I am not sure how mazda still gives you the umph with their SkyActive which uses atkinson cycle as well)

The electric motor/battery only works speeds up to 90km/h , beyond that its all engine power and the engine isn't something good as well



Why bro - planning to sell Fiesta and get a Mazda ?


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post Aug 23 2017, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Aug 23 2017, 08:48 AM)
thanks for the honest review.
most honda/toyota owners will claim their car the best cannot compare blah..blah...blah.

Mazda skyactive gives better punch because of the higher engine compression 13:1 / 14:1 compared to jazz 10.1:1 / fiesta 11:1.

BTW turbo systems increases the engine compression ratio so oooomph!
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No problem. I am not a Honda/Toyota fanboy....I see a lot of them swear that it's a best car ever !

Fiesta is still a fun car to ride with its handling , its so sad that Sime Darby kinda sucks
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Aug 23 2017, 08:48 AM)
thanks for the honest review.
most honda/toyota owners will claim their car the best cannot compare blah..blah...blah.

Mazda skyactive gives better punch because of the higher engine compression 13:1 / 14:1 compared to jazz 10.1:1 / fiesta 11:1.

BTW turbo systems increases the engine compression ratio so oooomph!
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No problem. I am not a Honda/Toyota fanboy....I see a lot of them swear that it's a best car ever !

Fiesta is still a fun car to ride with its handling , its so sad that Sime Darby kinda sucks
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post Aug 23 2017, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(sa10 @ Aug 23 2017, 11:31 AM)
can anyone tell me why you people own this shit car
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It's not a shit car , it's a great car , it's just that it suffers from the poor DCT

Common tell me , a car at 2010 that has ESC , good ride and handling and superb speakers. None - heck even my jazz hybrid does not have it

I agree , this car is super safe , even if you park outside also nobody wants to steal. People feel pity that you are driving an unpopular car and would want to give you back


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post Sep 11 2017, 10:11 PM

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Got my warranty claim approved from SDAC to replace the DCT clutch , that would be my last repair before selling my loved FoFi
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post Oct 15 2017, 06:20 PM

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I've said goodbye to my Fiesta ! It was a great car and gave it to a new owner - hope he takes good care of her !

In another note , yes if its TCM iyou'll see the ! sign , but at times check engine light also engages. I've had this in two different occasions

one was related to clutch , basically it wouldn't engage like gear 4 or 5 and the other one is on the transmission
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post Oct 19 2017, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(exidus @ Oct 15 2017, 07:20 PM)
quite sad hearing friends selling their fiesta  sad.gif
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I know , it's a great car - but then Ford Malaysia need to improve their after sales and support as well. Not up to par
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post Nov 20 2017, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 17 2017, 06:06 PM)
In our whatsapp group there is a member who changed twice. Not sure if the procedure was any different

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He is not wrong. The transmission behaves better when in aggressive mode (driven hard). Once you start driving slow or get caught in traffic, it goes into economy mode which makes it indecisive and gear hunts alot. The clutch also tries to be smooth and slips alot, causing it to overheat and jerk/judder instead.

Try switching on downhill assist (that button on the side of the shift knob) when caught in traffic. It will hold the lower gears instead of upshifting whenever u lift off the throttle.

Also, don't creep in traffic jams (release brakes but don't apply throttle). Let a gap form in front of you between the car ahead, then jab the throttle to close the gap.
Buy new Myvi and keep Fiesta for weekends  biggrin.gif
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That's the correct way of driving DCT. Anyway , after 2 months using Jazz Hybrid with DCT - the jerkiness is there (it happens when you are in traffic and the car runs out of battery power - so the engine is forced to kick in and then it charges the battery and gets you to move forward. Much like the Fiesta it jerks.

DCT is meant to be trashed in highway driving or when you throttle hard or overtake - you'll love the 'no-loss' in switching gears

The best way to avoid this to drive like a manual car , don't drive like a normal 4AT transmission car like myvi - do not go cucuk cucuk or throttle. Instead just use break and give space and then move forward. You'll notice it is much more smoother - like what dares advised

Having said that Fiesta > Jazz Hybrid. Sure the instant torque on the hybrid is nice and beats the Fiesta in terms of horsepower - but nothing beats Fiesta's handling and stability at high speeds

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