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1⃣ Eita has bagged several projects worth RM15.2m to supply and install 18 units of lifts.
2⃣TCE to
Lift is very expensive @.@
Lift is very expensive, I just know
Lift is very expensive, I just know
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🗞Companies in the News
1⃣ Eita has bagged several projects worth RM15.2m to supply and install 18 units of lifts. 2⃣TCE to Lift is very expensive @.@ |
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wa..i tot cost few hundred ringgits only...
NO SHIT SHERLOCK.. |
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I reali tot is 100k onli max
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songlap kuat ada lah
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apa bengong ini?
u guys know how much does an elevator cost in current market price? LoL can u even name the suppliers for elevators in malaysia? |
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18 numbers...
Not to mention the amount of stop they have. |
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QUOTE(botlife @ Sep 15 2016, 08:57 AM) 🗞Companies in the News must be inclusive these1⃣ Eita has bagged several projects worth RM15.2m to supply and install 18 units of lifts. 2⃣TCE to Lift is very expensive @.@ 1. workmanship to crush and rebuild the elevator space 2. hire local instead of bangla for 3DD works 3. a little piece of tiny entertaiment money for project launching/progressing/closing |
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You think drink kopi no need cost kah?
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rm15,200,000/ 18 lifts = rm844,444.44 per lift.
lol. |
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Sep 15 2016, 09:10 AM) exactly why i say most people dunno shit about elevatorsyes, they may know about brands but do they know who is the supplier? who can service this? how frequent and what certification needed to be renewd every year? elevator or lift is considered as vertical transport system, and under jurisdiction of JKKP some malaysian suppliers & oem svc provider: thysenn krupp, antah schindler |
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lifts are expensive. my wife also thought it's 10k+ only, but i told her to think about the cables alone and then think of all the system needed to make the lift work. not to mention carrying payload over 20 floors
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barang mahal wei../k only know play nintendo, how come know the real price of heavy machine?
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QUOTE(cHaRsIeWpAu^^ @ Sep 15 2016, 09:10 AM) it's about therea 4-stop elevator cost about rm 300k, exc GST, transport & installation an 18-stop elevator will cost more, even though u only need 1 car, u need 18 stainless automatic door, longer wire ropes then you need the wiring for the lift motor room, automation, emergency call system, testing & comm, JKKP certification, and all that which leaves you with about rm 100k profit per eleveaotr 1.8M profit over 15.2m = 12% margin is not much. if it is me, i'd aim for at least 25 - 30% |
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2016, 09:15 AM) it's about there Which lift selling 4 stop 300k? Lol 4 stop should be 150k include gst and installation. Installation for this only 10k by sub contractor. a 4-stop elevator cost about rm 300k, exc GST, transport & installation an 18-stop elevator will cost more, even though u only need 1 car, u need 18 stainless automatic door, longer wire ropes then you need the wiring for the lift motor room, automation, emergency call system, testing & comm, JKKP certification, and all that which leaves you with about rm 100k profit per eleveaotr 1.8M profit over 15.2m = 12% margin is not much. if it is me, i'd aim for at least 25 - 30% |
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2016, 09:15 AM) it's about there i see, i tot one elevator around 200k, didnt factor in those installation cost and doors. a 4-stop elevator cost about rm 300k, exc GST, transport & installation an 18-stop elevator will cost more, even though u only need 1 car, u need 18 stainless automatic door, longer wire ropes then you need the wiring for the lift motor room, automation, emergency call system, testing & comm, JKKP certification, and all that which leaves you with about rm 100k profit per eleveaotr 1.8M profit over 15.2m = 12% margin is not much. if it is me, i'd aim for at least 25 - 30% This post has been edited by cHaRsIeWpAu^^: Sep 15 2016, 09:24 AM |
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QUOTE(cHaRsIeWpAu^^ @ Sep 15 2016, 09:20 AM) i see, i tot one elevator around 200k, didnt factor in those installation cost and doors. 200k might just be enough for a 2-storey house / private elevatorit's kinda cool to have own evelavotr in house. esp if you are on wheelchair |
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Typical /k member: just some big kotak besi with some cable & one motor with butang press go up & down saja.
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2016, 09:15 AM) it's about there that expensive??? i thought house with pool will be some rich fag house. now house with elevator will be richer that the house with pool alone.a 4-stop elevator cost about rm 300k, exc GST, transport & installation an 18-stop elevator will cost more, even though u only need 1 car, u need 18 stainless automatic door, longer wire ropes then you need the wiring for the lift motor room, automation, emergency call system, testing & comm, JKKP certification, and all that which leaves you with about rm 100k profit per eleveaotr 1.8M profit over 15.2m = 12% margin is not much. if it is me, i'd aim for at least 25 - 30% btw no wonder apartment and condo maintenance cost a lot This post has been edited by lol~: Sep 15 2016, 09:54 AM |
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2016, 09:15 AM) it's about there belum masuk lagi PLC, BMS, control panel, certs from authorities..etc..a 4-stop elevator cost about rm 300k, exc GST, transport & installation an 18-stop elevator will cost more, even though u only need 1 car, u need 18 stainless automatic door, longer wire ropes then you need the wiring for the lift motor room, automation, emergency call system, testing & comm, JKKP certification, and all that which leaves you with about rm 100k profit per eleveaotr 1.8M profit over 15.2m = 12% margin is not much. if it is me, i'd aim for at least 25 - 30% diorang ingat buat lift macam beli keta proton agaknye.. |
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jadi...kalau 2 tingkat, kos pasang dgn maintainence selama 5 tahun...agak2 berapa ya?
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Schindler, Hitachi, Toshiba, Dover,
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Otis and Schindler lift is rolls royce of lift
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My condo lift sure breakdown when heavy thunderstorm..everyone breakdown repair sampai pening
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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Sep 14 2016, 02:19 PM) QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Sep 14 2016, 02:20 PM) my condo got one they simpli closed forever no repair =.= |
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Lol apa bodoh ktard ingat lift harga 10k. Kau ingaat besi dengan kabel boleh tampung 1 tan tu murah?tu belum cabling, plc, ecb, etc. Cincai harga 500k++ bergantung berapa tingkat bangunan tu
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I also thought few thousand can get a lift already?
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One time maintenance 20k.
Condo Management likes to maintain the lifts.......songlap....duit from there ....most profitable. |
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Lift is jew propaganda. Deswai expensive
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management, maintenance, warranty, u know how much each door cost, motor. 100k u can buy a toilet.
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Schindler
Otis Mitsubishi Hitachi Toshiba Sigma Dover ThyssenKrupp Dong Yang Kone MS Elevators Choose one. Dong Yang is cheaper cuz it's lesser known, I guess? Correct me if I'm wrong. This post has been edited by xperiaDROID: Sep 15 2016, 10:55 AM |
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those 3 storey houses with lifts, how much to service/maintenance/spare parts/repair?
electricity bill will be high if use everyday? |
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20k can install lift ar?
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QUOTE(zack85 @ Sep 15 2016, 10:03 AM) belum masuk lagi PLC, BMS, control panel, certs from authorities..etc.. hahah... BMS, nak mintak master password dari supplier kena bayar rm15k, just for master password. and then they purposely use proprietrary protocol comms, havisla if you want to integrate to existing BMSdiorang ingat buat lift macam beli keta proton agaknye.. |
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2016, 11:02 AM) nowdays, they are made in china, I thought LG and Goldstar stopped making elevators?manufactured in china for asian market at least LG goldstar made in korea LoL I saw most of the old ones are modernized into Sigma's. Their designs are similar after all. Eg: Display, fixtures etc. This post has been edited by xperiaDROID: Sep 15 2016, 11:07 AM |
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2016, 09:15 AM) it's about there u kerja sana ke? aku kasi 1 like untuk you. a 4-stop elevator cost about rm 300k, exc GST, transport & installation an 18-stop elevator will cost more, even though u only need 1 car, u need 18 stainless automatic door, longer wire ropes then you need the wiring for the lift motor room, automation, emergency call system, testing & comm, JKKP certification, and all that which leaves you with about rm 100k profit per eleveaotr 1.8M profit over 15.2m = 12% margin is not much. if it is me, i'd aim for at least 25 - 30% |
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QUOTE(Zoopdiidoo @ Sep 15 2016, 10:50 AM) One time maintenance 20k. sekali tukar wire rope sudah at least 10k bangCondo Management likes to maintain the lifts.......songlap....duit from there ....most profitable. not just one, got 3 wire rope inspection to brakes, shock absorbers in the pit is another few k drain water from pit also take mani |
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that permit mesin angkat cost summore
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QUOTE(tahfeikei @ Sep 15 2016, 11:00 AM) those 3 storey houses with lifts, how much to service/maintenance/spare parts/repair? surprisingly no. electricity is only used if you use the elevator. nowadays, elevators can enter standby mode and switch off the lights & exhaust fans.electricity bill will be high if use everyday? |
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15mil for 18unit?
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QUOTE(xperiaDROID @ Sep 15 2016, 10:53 AM) Schindler thyssenkrupp is painful to work withOtis Mitsubishi Hitachi Toshiba Sigma Dover ThyssenKrupp Dong Yang Kone MS Elevators Choose one. Dong Yang is cheaper cuz it's lesser known, I guess? Correct me if I'm wrong. u either have a long term contract with them or u don't they don't like to service / repair elevators that is maintained or previously repaired by others |
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2016, 09:10 AM) OTIS is also manufacturer, not supplier / distro Could it be Antah Schindler Sdn Bhd located in Damansara? I could be wrong though. |
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does new lift installed come with warranty as such 3 years (include labor and maintenance)?
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2016, 11:06 AM) LoL... itu moving coffin. hahah different technology with different unit prices and different installation price.yeah, can get around that price but not yet inc install, and queit2 install cos no way can pass JKKP for private use, no need JKKP oso anyway UK and aussie got these kind of tiny lifts for house (and cheap 15k gbp price ranges) |
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QUOTE(botlife @ Sep 15 2016, 09:57 AM) 🗞Companies in the News Not only that. Maintain lift also expensive.1⃣ Eita has bagged several projects worth RM15.2m to supply and install 18 units of lifts. 2⃣TCE to Lift is very expensive @.@ 1.6k per month to maintain 2 lift in my condo. I know coz i used to be jmb and audit the account |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 15 2016, 11:16 AM) different technology with different unit prices and different installation price. ah, this one will be scary for people who is scared of confined spaces like meanyway UK and aussie got these kind of tiny lifts for house (and cheap 15k gbp price ranges) LoL the one i saw is glass elevators, made in italy. saw the ad in newspaper and gatal2 go ask for quote. hahaha maybe 200k is inc shipping charges to sarawak. LoL |
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2016, 09:09 AM) bengong. mitsubishi is manufcaturer. not supplier bang. simpan sikit ignorance tuh.u think u can walk into mitsubhishi heavy industries office and buy a lift just like that? LoL MEMSB is a sub under Mitsubishi Electric Japan http://www.mitsubishielectric.com/elevator/network/asia.html Mitsubishi Elevator Malaysia Sdn.Bhd. No. 42, Jalan Penchala, 46050 Petaling Jaya, Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia Phone: 60-3-7788-3003 Fax: 60-3-7782-7807 E-Mail: melm@mitsubishi-elevator.com.my yup u can go to their Malaysia Office and select, practically everything can be either on shelf / custom made. but still i prefered Schindler & Kone over other brands for my highrises project that requires 2.5m/s (standard for 30 - 40 floors building)lifts btw Eita is one of the most lousiest lift brand in Malaysia. they used to ply all the contracts for Putrajaya highrises due to low price, but maintenance is a NIGHTMARE. and by 2011 they had slowly recovered. now the had partnered schneider... their projec based are on again... |
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QUOTE(jonn zee @ Sep 15 2016, 11:19 AM) bang. simpan sikit ignorance tuh. owh, tqMEMSB is a sub under Mitsubishi Electric Japan http://www.mitsubishielectric.com/elevator/network/asia.html Mitsubishi Elevator Malaysia Sdn.Bhd. No. 42, Jalan Penchala, 46050 Petaling Jaya, Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia Phone: 60-3-7788-3003 Fax: 60-3-7782-7807 E-Mail: melm@mitsubishi-elevator.com.my yup u can go to their Malaysia Office and select, practically everything can be either on shelf / custom made. but still i prefered Schindler & Kone over other brands for my highrises project that requires 2.5m/s (standard for 30 - 40 floors building)lifts btw Eita is one of the most lousiest lift brand in Malaysia. they used to ply all the contracts for Putrajaya highrises due to low price, but maintenance is a NIGHTMARE. and by 2011 they had slowly recovered. now the had partnered schneider... their projec based are on again... i learn new stuff today i never hear of EITA before. never maintain these lifts also otis, mitsu, schindler, lg, hitachi - those are usually found in govt hosp This post has been edited by lucifah: Sep 15 2016, 11:21 AM |
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Sep 15 2016, 11:17 AM) Not only that. Maintain lift also expensive. what brand? 1.6k per month to maintain 2 lift in my condo. I know coz i used to be jmb and audit the account what speed lift? how tall is the condo? imho is a bit on the hi side, if they are not hi speed lifts, tall building. my apartment is 8 lifts, maintenance rm2k monthly. Dover brand. 3 normal lifts 1 strecther lift. 20 floors building. and yup. i m in the JMB as well, my 6th year. |
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Sep 15 2016, 11:26 AM
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Sep 15 2016, 11:28 AM
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June 25, 2014 KONE Corporation, press release, June 25, 2014 KONE, an innovative leader in elevators and escalators, will be supplying 105 elevators and escalators to KL118 Tower, a 118-storey mixed use tower developed by PNB Merdeka Ventures Sdn Bhd in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Comprising of a total of more than 400,000sqm of residential, hotel and commercial functions, KL118 tower is expected to be the tallest building in Malaysia, upon completion in 2019, a new landmark of the country. The building will be connected to a metro station and its 2nd phase of development will consist of another 4 residential towers. To ensure a smooth people flow and achieve space optimization, 18 KONE TravelMaster escalators, 23 KONE MonoSpace® machine room-less elevators, 23 KONE MiniSpace elevators, 37 KONE DoubleDeck elevators, KONE People Flow Intelligence solutions including KONE highly innovative Destination Control Systems will be provided. The installation of KONE's energy efficient elevators will assist the new complex pursuit of the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) Gold or Platinum certification. 12 of the elevators installed at the KL118 Tower have a travel speed of 10m/s and this includes 11 KONE DoubleDeck. Besides these, two DoubleDeck observation elevators with travel speed of 8m/s, and two service elevators with travel speed of 9m/s and travel height of almost 500m are also included. Additionally, four KONE JumpLift elevators will make the KL118 construction process safer and faster, with reduced down-time and earlier closing of the building façades. With the KONE JumpLift, all construction workers will experience significantly less waiting time, a safer and more comfortable transportation means. Furthermore, the elevators in KL118 will be equipped with a fully automated Occupant Evacuation Operation system that executes building evacuation automatically in event of emergency. Building users will receive automatic messages and evacuation instructions, via the elevator Destination Operating Panels, on every floor. "We are excited to be a part of this iconic landmark in Malaysia." said Noud Veeger, Executive Vice President for KONE Asia Pacific and Middle East. "Working closely with PNB and their project manager, Turner International, our innovative technology and people flow planning expertise positioned us well to offer the best solutions for this development." The order was booked in the second quarter of 2014. Previous press releases on KONE's orders are available at www.kone.com/press including: June 5, 2014: KONE wins order for Saudi Arabia's Kingdom Tower, the world's tallest building April 14, 2014: KONE wins an order for a multiuse complex District 8 in Jakarta's financial center in Indonesia http://www.kone.com/en/press/press/kone-wi...2014-06-25.aspx So they also provide construction type elevators ? |
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2016, 11:03 AM) hahah... BMS, nak mintak master password dari supplier kena bayar rm15k, just for master password. and then they purposely use proprietrary protocol comms, havisla if you want to integrate to existing BMS blum lg ex proof material..kalo required lah..plus maintenance services..technician rates..etc..x sangka bebudak /k/ cetek ilmu..semua dlm otak ingat songlap..This post has been edited by zack85: Sep 15 2016, 11:31 AM |
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2016, 11:03 AM) hahah... BMS, nak mintak master password dari supplier kena bayar rm15k, just for master password. and then they purposely use proprietrary protocol comms, havisla if you want to integrate to existing BMS no wonder my electonic guy got many projects to interface the displays, cos he can create pcbs to interface with those special codes. |
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2016, 09:12 AM) exactly why i say most people dunno shit about elevators I thought you sell bra one?yes, they may know about brands but do they know who is the supplier? who can service this? how frequent and what certification needed to be renewd every year? elevator or lift is considered as vertical transport system, and under jurisdiction of JKKP some malaysian suppliers & oem svc provider: thysenn krupp, antah schindler |
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Sep 15 2016, 12:05 PM
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ts must be fresh grad quality. contract sure la cover the design, site survey, possible fabrication, installation, commissioning, etc all these bullshit + 10-20% markup
reminds me when kolej, lecturer asked guess how much an astronaut suit cost. one student answered RM3000. Facepalm to the max |
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Sep 15 2016, 12:08 PM
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pay a little more complain lifts exp...
WHen buy cheap stuff malfunction chop off a few heads... ppl start making noise... Apo lu mau lagi |
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Sep 15 2016, 12:20 PM
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OTIS right
i know from prison break |
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Sep 15 2016, 12:21 PM
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Sep 15 2016, 12:23 PM
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Waaaa. For 3-storey house got ah? how much?
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Sep 15 2016, 12:34 PM
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15 million for 18 sets..machiam murah je..should be around that..
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Sep 15 2016, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2016, 09:23 AM) 200k might just be enough for a 2-storey house / private elevator But maintenance is gonna be a killer. it's kinda cool to have own evelavotr in house. esp if you are on wheelchair If breakdown when you are alone and you left your HP on the bed, you're gonna die inside the lift like this rich couple in the USA. Both in late 80s.. Lift broken down Left HP upstairs Durring summer heat Live alone Big house... No one could hear them... Discovered by their children after not calling Died embracing each other.. |
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Sep 15 2016, 03:18 PM
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Sep 15 2016, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(Noyoudontcare @ Sep 15 2016, 11:28 AM) sia yup, the one u see at construction site, with pull gate type and very scary once past 10 floors...June 25, 2014 KONE Corporation, press release, June 25, 2014 KONE, an innovative leader in elevators and escalators, will be supplying 105 elevators and escalators to KL118 Tower, a 118-storey mixed use tower developed by PNB Merdeka Ventures Sdn Bhd in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Comprising of a total of more than 400,000sqm of residential, hotel and commercial functions, KL118 tower is expected to be the tallest building in Malaysia, upon completion in 2019, a new landmark of the country. The building will be connected to a metro station and its 2nd phase of development will consist of another 4 residential towers. To ensure a smooth people flow and achieve space optimization, 18 KONE TravelMaster escalators, 23 KONE MonoSpace® machine room-less elevators, 23 KONE MiniSpace elevators, 37 KONE DoubleDeck elevators, KONE People Flow Intelligence solutions including KONE highly innovative Destination Control Systems will be provided. The installation of KONE's energy efficient elevators will assist the new complex pursuit of the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) Gold or Platinum certification. 12 of the elevators installed at the KL118 Tower have a travel speed of 10m/s and this includes 11 KONE DoubleDeck. Besides these, two DoubleDeck observation elevators with travel speed of 8m/s, and two service elevators with travel speed of 9m/s and travel height of almost 500m are also included. Additionally, four KONE JumpLift elevators will make the KL118 construction process safer and faster, with reduced down-time and earlier closing of the building façades. With the KONE JumpLift, all construction workers will experience significantly less waiting time, a safer and more comfortable transportation means. Furthermore, the elevators in KL118 will be equipped with a fully automated Occupant Evacuation Operation system that executes building evacuation automatically in event of emergency. Building users will receive automatic messages and evacuation instructions, via the elevator Destination Operating Panels, on every floor. "We are excited to be a part of this iconic landmark in Malaysia." said Noud Veeger, Executive Vice President for KONE Asia Pacific and Middle East. "Working closely with PNB and their project manager, Turner International, our innovative technology and people flow planning expertise positioned us well to offer the best solutions for this development." The order was booked in the second quarter of 2014. Previous press releases on KONE's orders are available at www.kone.com/press including: June 5, 2014: KONE wins order for Saudi Arabia's Kingdom Tower, the world's tallest building April 14, 2014: KONE wins an order for a multiuse complex District 8 in Jakarta's financial center in Indonesia http://www.kone.com/en/press/press/kone-wi...2014-06-25.aspx So they also provide construction type elevators ? |
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Sep 15 2016, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 15 2016, 11:37 AM) no wonder my electonic guy got many projects to interface the displays, cos he can create pcbs to interface with those special codes. this is why they can get good manii mean, it's a simple PCB with some proprietary shit and they cost like bombs man really slaughter price punya |
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Sep 15 2016, 03:20 PM
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Sep 15 2016, 03:20 PM
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Sep 15 2016, 03:21 PM
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Sep 15 2016, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Sep 15 2016, 12:45 PM) But maintenance is gonna be a killer. yeah, that's one of the riskIf breakdown when you are alone and you left your HP on the bed, you're gonna die inside the lift like this rich couple in the USA. Both in late 80s.. Lift broken down Left HP upstairs Durring summer heat Live alone Big house... No one could hear them... Discovered by their children after not calling Died embracing each other.. but its better than using electric straicase seats (the one u sit on the chair and climb up the stairs) - u have higher chance to fall off |
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Sep 15 2016, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2016, 03:19 PM) this is why they can get good mani especially making new equipment to interface those older nurse call system from overseas brands.. i mean, it's a simple PCB with some proprietary shit and they cost like bombs man really slaughter price punya |
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depends on the capability as well like how fast it can go per second and also the other thins. Its not like just a simple pulley system ok. That price usually includes support contracts for X amount of years as well
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Sep 15 2016, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2016, 09:15 AM) it's about there so every bra and seluar dalam you sell increase 25%?a 4-stop elevator cost about rm 300k, exc GST, transport & installation an 18-stop elevator will cost more, even though u only need 1 car, u need 18 stainless automatic door, longer wire ropes then you need the wiring for the lift motor room, automation, emergency call system, testing & comm, JKKP certification, and all that which leaves you with about rm 100k profit per eleveaotr 1.8M profit over 15.2m = 12% margin is not much. if it is me, i'd aim for at least 25 - 30% |
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Sep 15 2016, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 15 2016, 03:28 PM) especially making new equipment to interface those older nurse call system from overseas brands.. nowadays we just propose to change to new wireless nurse call system. made by a local malaysian companyeasy to expand and reconfigure |
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Sep 15 2016, 03:40 PM
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Sep 15 2016, 03:43 PM
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