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post Sep 8 2016, 01:19 AM, updated 10y ago

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Well maybe i should post this in rwd section. But has our progress in science and technology halted?
our technology has surely been advance a lot in the past 20-30 years.

But from what i see now, they are no breakthrough of technology. It is an improvement but not like a WOW, someone/some company has invented something that is advance ahead of a century or more. Most of them can only considered as an improvement of existing things.

eg:
- Pintu suka hati
- 4D pocket
- Time travel machine
- Torchlight that will absorb light (when turn on the torchlight, the entire area will become dark)
- Torchlight membesarkan dan mengecilkan barangan
- A machine that instant transfer object from one location to another (straight away membankruptkan pos laju and delivery service)
And bla bla bla

And siapa kata Our imagination is the only limit to what we can hope to have in the future

mempersiasuikan saja. i think above invention many people have heard of like few decades but until now no one is even near to success in building it,

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post Sep 8 2016, 01:24 AM

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Halted? How?
Several major thing I'm pulling off my head, teleportation, quantum computing, entanglement based communication.

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post Sep 8 2016, 01:25 AM

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You do realize that all those 'tech' you listed are impossible devices that break the laws of physics, right? sweat.gif

But sure...just let me get round to inventing a robot cat with a magical pocket...I'll get right on it... thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(arubin @ Sep 8 2016, 01:25 AM)
You do realize that all those 'tech' you listed are impossible devices that break the laws of physics, right? sweat.gif

But sure...just let me get round to inventing a robot cat with a magical pocket...I'll get right on it... :thumbsup:
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pintu suka hati already got la, at sunway thr n opened by dan khoo
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Its now become too expensive to do research on new technology. And very hard to get funds. Not to mention patents.
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post Sep 8 2016, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Sep 8 2016, 01:25 AM)
You do realize that all those 'tech' you listed are impossible devices that break the laws of physics, right? sweat.gif

But sure...just let me get round to inventing a robot cat with a magical pocket...I'll get right on it... thumbsup.gif
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last time human believe we can fly? travel to moon? talk to another person in another part of the earth? No right. But it all is being acheived now.
do you believe in we can build a building using printer? Now we have 3D printer.

the law of physics is defined by human and human tend to make a lot of assumption and mistakes.
And whats more there is no 100% claim that it is impossible to invent a time machine and have instant transfer right?
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post Sep 8 2016, 01:32 AM

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Clearly yr bodo hasn't stopped progressing.
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Lol then what are you doing here. Go try do something and contribute for the breakthrough
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QUOTE(trewq @ Sep 8 2016, 01:32 AM)
last time human believe we can fly? travel to moon? talk to another person in another part of the earth? No right. But it all is being acheived now.
do you believe in we can build a building using printer? Now we have 3D printer.

the law of physics is defined by human and human tend to make a lot of assumption and mistakes.
And whats more there is no 100% claim that it is impossible to invent a time machine and have instant transfer right?
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Current biggest breakthrough is virtual reality

By 2020 it will be fully mainstream

AI is also not far away

I say by 2030

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post Sep 8 2016, 01:42 AM

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By 2060 we would have our first wrap drive
NASA already working on it


Fusion energy is in the works

Nano technology, gene therapy and new medical advanced that I don't understand but I hear of

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smartphone also saturated..same goes to tv..same goes to pc..

boring liao living in 21st century..lel.
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post Sep 8 2016, 01:44 AM

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i already tried all that
but failed
trust me on this one
you mere human will never able to do that
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post Sep 8 2016, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(trewq @ Sep 8 2016, 01:32 AM)
last time human believe we can fly? travel to moon? talk to another person in another part of the earth? No right. But it all is being acheived now.
do you believe in we can build a building using printer? Now we have 3D printer.

the law of physics is defined by human and human tend to make a lot of assumption and mistakes.
And whats more there is no 100% claim that it is impossible to invent a time machine and have instant transfer right?
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I can tell you right now that a time machine is fundamentally impossible.

You can 'travel' to the future to a certian extent once technology advances far enough by temporarily residing in a high gravity area. Interstellar got that bit right.

Travel back to the past? That's a definite no. I mean you can setup a wormhole but the physics behind it is improbable to the point of it just being impossible altogether. You won't see it in your lifetime. Nor will your kids or your grandkids. Or great-grandkids.

And no, in this case there are no assumptions or mistakes. What you want is flat out impossible outside of comics.
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post Sep 8 2016, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Sep 8 2016, 01:42 AM)
By 2060 we would have our first wrap drive
NASA already working on it
Fusion energy is in the works

Nano technology, gene therapy and new medical advanced that I don't understand but I hear of
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VR consider breakthrough? I dun see how it benefits human daily life as compared to the item i mentioned above (althought it may posed massive security issue as well).
Oh ya talking about medical. Until now still no cure for AIDS and HIV. Now summore Zika inkambing. Its more beneficial than those bla bla bla medical advanced.
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post Sep 8 2016, 01:51 AM

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China will achieve fusion soon. Quantum computers, v soon. Stop shittin in public, not so soon. I'm serious.

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QUOTE(trewq @ Sep 8 2016, 01:48 AM)
VR consider breakthrough? I dun see how it benefits human daily life as compared to the item i mentioned above (althought it may posed massive security issue as well).
Oh ya talking about medical. Until now still no cure for AIDS and HIV. Now summore Zika inkambing. Its more beneficial than those bla bla bla medical advanced.
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U talk to much cock

Y don't u go help advance technology

Otherwise shut up


https://www.technologyreview.com/lists/technologies/2016/

https://www.technologyreview.com/lists/technologies/2015/
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post Sep 8 2016, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Sep 8 2016, 01:46 AM)
I can tell you right now that a time machine is fundamentally impossible.

You can 'travel' to the future to a certian extent once technology advances far enough by temporarily residing in a high gravity area. Interstellar got that bit right.

Travel back to the past? That's a definite no. I mean you can setup a wormhole but the physics behind it is improbable to the point of it just being impossible altogether. You won't see it in your lifetime. Nor will your kids or your grandkids. Or great-grandkids.

And no, in this case there are no assumptions or mistakes. What you want is flat out impossible outside of comics.
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Stephen hawking once say things cannot make itself impossible. If one can travel to the past, they can alter the history and does makes the thing happening now will not be happen. So he concluded that traveling to the past is impossible.

I agree with him in certain way but dont forget that they are a lot of scientist making debut on this particular subject.

What i rather believe is the following debut:
Time travel to the past, if at all possible, may only go back as far as the first time machine. Since the past of our civilization lacks a time machine, it is immutable, whereas the past of more advanced civilizations may be mutable.

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QUOTE(trewq @ Sep 8 2016, 01:59 AM)
Stephen hawking once say things cannot make itself impossible. If one can travel to the past, they can alter the history and does makes the thing happening now will not be happen. So he concluded that traveling to the past is impossible.

I agree with him in certain way but dont forget that they are a lot of scientist making debut on this particular subject.

What i rather believe is the following debut:
Time travel to the past, if at all possible, may only go back as far as the first time machine. Since the past of our civilization lacks a time machine, it is immutable, whereas the past of more advanced civilizations may be mutable.
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That's not a new theory lar. That's the same as the wormhole concept. As in you can only travel back as far as when the wormhole was first created. You can go read up on that.

The energy required to make a wormhole however, along with the space needed to make one that would allow you to travel back years...yeah...that's way out of our league.

Stephen Hawking also talked about this already:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/ar...me-machine.html
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There's a black professor in d us working on a time machine traveling to d past. ...a BLACK professor...
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QUOTE(trewq @ Sep 8 2016, 01:59 AM)
Stephen hawking once say things cannot make itself impossible. If one can travel to the past, they can alter the history and does makes the thing happening now will not be happen. So he concluded that traveling to the past is impossible.

I agree with him in certain way but dont forget that they are a lot of scientist making debut on this particular subject.

What i rather believe is the following debut:
Time travel to the past, if at all possible, may only go back as far as the first time machine. Since the past of our civilization lacks a time machine, it is immutable, whereas the past of more advanced civilizations may be mutable.
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Or rather we have already figured out all the easy stuff


Innovation is now going to go much harder

You are dealing with wormholes, warping space time and stuff here
Its going to need way more energy than a nuclear reactor

Later fuck up and make out of control black hole how????
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post Sep 8 2016, 02:11 AM

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There are plenty of scientific and technology breakthrough happening this year alone, TS but probably isnt as mainstream because everyone is focusing on trump, terrorists and the world's economics
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QUOTE(arubin @ Sep 8 2016, 02:04 AM)
That's not a new theory lar. That's the same as the wormhole concept. As in you can only travel back as far as when the wormhole was first created. You can go read up on that.

The energy required to make a wormhole however, along with the space needed to make one that would allow you to travel back years...yeah...that's way out of our league.

Stephen Hawking also talked about this already:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/ar...me-machine.html
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Einstein also say nothing can travel faster than speed of light wat.
But now already discovered right particles that can move faster than speed of light.
i wonder our textbook got update or not
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QUOTE(papangames @ Sep 8 2016, 02:11 AM)
There are plenty of scientific and technology breakthrough happening this year alone, TS but probably isnt as mainstream because everyone is focusing on trump, terrorists and the world's economics
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i am aware of that but from what i see it is consider as IMPROVEMENT of what we currently have, not breakthrough......
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QUOTE(trewq @ Sep 8 2016, 02:13 AM)
i am aware of that but from what i see it is consider as IMPROVEMENT of what we currently have, not breakthrough......
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Gene manipulation, only possible today. They are in beta phase now
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China will b mining d moon soon.
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TS never knew physics? hmm.gif

or just plain ignorant or stupid?
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QUOTE(trewq @ Sep 8 2016, 02:12 AM)
Einstein also say nothing can travel faster than speed of light wat.
But now already discovered right particles that can move faster than speed of light.
i wonder our textbook got update or not
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What particles, exactly?

And a bit of a correction there. Einstein stated that nothing with mass can travel faster than the speed of light. So far, he's not wrong.

You have an experiment that shows a particle going faster than light, link it up please. Last I looked, that neutrino anomaly was actually a mistaken observation.

As for the phenomena of Quantum Entanglement, it doesn't really count as breaking the speed of light either.
https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/context/en...action-distance
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Someone already managed to move a Boeing 777 to another dimension, tried to return it and failed

He just doesn't want to admit it

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Nasa working on wrap drive

Give them few years
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We now have extremely cheap global communications by text, voice even video 24/7 with the use of a small 5" by 2" device in our pockets... this would have been almost magical during our parents' time. Stop moaning about how we havent invented whatever fantasy technology yet and embrace the present.
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QUOTE(trewq @ Sep 8 2016, 01:19 AM)
Well maybe i should post this in rwd section. But has our progress in science and technology halted?
our technology has surely been advance a lot in the past 20-30 years.

But from what i see now, they are no breakthrough of technology. It is an improvement but not like a WOW, someone/some company has invented something that is advance ahead of a century or more. Most of them can only considered as an improvement of existing things.

eg:
- Pintu suka hati
- 4D pocket
- Time travel machine
- Torchlight that will absorb light (when turn on the torchlight, the entire area will become dark)
- Torchlight membesarkan dan mengecilkan barangan
- A machine that instant transfer object from one location to another (straight away membankruptkan pos laju and delivery service)
And bla bla bla

And siapa kata Our imagination is the only limit to what we can hope to have in the future

mempersiasuikan saja. i think above invention many people have heard of like few decades but until now no one is even near to success in building it,
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because capitalist control the system.
those things cant bring in money therefore no point for innovation. PERIOD
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smartphone with curve screen is tech breakthrough yo!
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guess what, if technology progresses further a lot of people will be out of jobs leaving the market system hanging. of course those idiots at the top want to keep the system this way.
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post Sep 8 2016, 10:41 AM

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pagi tadi baru announce PS4 Pro

ape ranjiao lu cakap TS

technology always advance
its just that consumers are too poor to pay for it
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QUOTE(arubin @ Sep 8 2016, 02:25 AM)
What particles, exactly?

And a bit of a correction there. Einstein stated that nothing with mass can travel faster than the speed of light. So far, he's not wrong.

You have an experiment that shows a particle going faster than light, link it up please. Last I looked, that neutrino anomaly was actually a mistaken observation.

As for the phenomena of Quantum Entanglement, it doesn't really count as breaking the speed of light either.
https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/context/en...action-distance
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Tachyons can... though they are just hypothetical biggrin.gif
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Tesla (not the car brand mind you) invention are released and slowly integrating into our life slowly, ie WiFi.
Some techs are just not suitable for the current time due to restriction of hardware and lifestyle.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_in_science

so many interesting discovery in 2016 only.

human are going to colonize Mars soon.

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QUOTE(trewq @ Sep 8 2016, 01:48 AM)
VR consider breakthrough? I dun see how it benefits human daily life as compared to the item i mentioned above (althought it may posed massive security issue as well).
Oh ya talking about medical. Until now still no cure for AIDS and HIV. Now summore Zika inkambing. Its more beneficial than those bla bla bla medical advanced.
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AIDS research halts blame it on MH17, progress resets...
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QUOTE(arubin @ Sep 8 2016, 02:25 AM)
What particles, exactly?

And a bit of a correction there. Einstein stated that nothing with mass can travel faster than the speed of light. So far, he's not wrong.

You have an experiment that shows a particle going faster than light, link it up please. Last I looked, that neutrino anomaly was actually a mistaken observation.

As for the phenomenal of Quantum Entanglement, it doesn't really count as breaking the speed of light either.
https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/context/en...action-distance
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Correction on ya correction. Einstein said NOTHING can travel faster then d speed of light. NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Sikian.
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Large companies intentionally slow their progress in order to profit bah. Ayam should go check their secret R&D facility.
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you don't magically "invent" something in a day

it takes time
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I'm still waiting for the tech to punch people through the internet.
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just coz iphone didn't innovate doesn't mean progress in science has halted whistling.gif wink.gif
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post Sep 8 2016, 11:18 AM

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Talking bout technology. Im sad coz (example below)


What we see now:

Global company with the best brains working inside, decided to improve the tech for the majority of able bodied people just to get more profit ,even though the "tech" is redundant or cause not much impact (for eg ... HD resolution phone to 4k resolution/ ultra sharp retina display) .

But.....

Technology (not costing a bomb) to cure blindness / help the visually impaired to see much better enuff for daily living.... is still FAR FAR AWAY.


The best brains are there all along , but they're not "exploited" /utilised to do something for less capable/weaker/sick humans.



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time traveling, teleportation, matter manipulation. theoretically sounds pretty easy..

but what we lack are the engineering n logistic feats..

rike 1000 years ago someone had visioned and built prototype flying machine, what they lack is the mean to manufacture it..n not to mention the cost involved..
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Sep 8 2016, 11:18 AM)
Talking bout technology. Im sad coz (example below)
What we see now:

Global company with the best brains working inside, decided to improve the tech for the majority of able bodied people just to get more profit ,even though the "tech" is redundant or cause not much impact (for eg ... HD resolution phone to 4k resolution/ ultra sharp retina display) .

But.....

Technology (not costing a bomb)  to cure blindness / help the visually impaired to see  much better enuff for daily living.... is still FAR FAR AWAY.
The best brains are there all along , but they're not "exploited" /utilised to do something for less capable/weaker/sick humans.
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now its all abt money dawg..ppl building new tech ony expecting profit..no money no talk..
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http://www.collaborativefund.com/blog/when...-no-one-notices

Usually there will be gaps between when the discoveries were made and when people noticed it
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QUOTE(empatTan @ Sep 8 2016, 11:07 AM)
Correction on ya correction. Einstein said NOTHING can travel faster then d speed of light. NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Sikian.
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You sure about that? I'm trying to find the exact statement but if I'm not mistaken, 'nothing can travel faster than the speed of light' is just a simplification of his theories.

I remember it actually as 'no physical object' which would translate to something with mass or just matter in general.

Saying that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light is ironically accurate, because NOTHING can indeed travel faster than the speed of light. A vacuum, which is basically nothing, can expand faster than the speed of light.

Information, which is also technically...nothing, can also travel faster than the speed of light as demonstrated by Quantum Entanglement but even that is dodgy and has its issues (see the article I linked).

Negative matter, which would be...err...less than nothing? Yeah, that can also go faster than the speed of light...in theory...

Any more thought about that and my brain hurts so...
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QUOTE(tentenko @ Sep 8 2016, 12:22 PM)
now its all abt money dawg..ppl building new tech ony expecting profit..no money no talk..
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Exactly. And this is fueled by humans aka consumer needs to get these things (new features in phones ) causing aggressive competitions between them.

Its humans who decided that these are important enuff to continue paying and buying new fangled gadgets out of hypes. No obligations for any humans to really do a bit for cancer researches and cure coz we humans arent (so far) raised or educated to wire our brains this way as adults with spending power ( what to buy, how much to give to charity etc).

conclusion: we humans collectively set the path to "kill" our future self . Now can enjoy all the fun stuff when young (games/smartphones /cars) with our hard earned salary...... 30 yrs down the road when chronic disease hit us..... will think back .. why we still yet to found cure for what ills us and cause us so much pain ?



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QUOTE(arubin @ Sep 8 2016, 11:27 AM)
You sure about that? I'm trying to find the exact statement but if I'm not mistaken, 'nothing can travel faster than the speed of light' is just a simplification of his theories.

I remember it actually as 'no physical object' which would translate to something with mass or just matter in general.

Saying that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light is ironically accurate, because NOTHING can indeed travel faster than the speed of light. A vacuum, which is basically nothing, can expand faster than the speed of light.

Information, which is also technically...nothing, can also travel faster than the speed of light as demonstrated by Quantum Entanglement but even that is dodgy and has its issues (see the article I linked).

Negative matter, which would be...err...less than nothing? Yeah, that can also go faster than the speed of light...in theory...

Any more thought about that and my brain hurts so...
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Yes, I'm sure. A vacuum cannot expand faster than c. Maybe u meant space in itself.

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QUOTE(empatTan @ Sep 8 2016, 11:36 AM)
Yes, I'm sure. A vacuum cannot expand faster than c. Maybe u meant space in itself.

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Yes it can. What do you think happened during the big bang?
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Sep 8 2016, 11:28 AM)
Exactly.    And this is fueled by humans aka consumer needs to get these things (new features in phones ) causing aggressive competitions between them.

Its humans who decided  that these are important enuff to continue paying and buying new fangled gadgets out of hypes.  No obligations for any humans to really do a bit  for cancer researches  and cure coz  we humans arent (so far) raised or educated to wire our brains this way as adults with spending power ( what to buy, how much to give to charity etc).

conclusion: we humans collectively  set the path to "kill" our future self  .  Now can enjoy all the fun stuff when young (games/smartphones /cars) with our hard earned salary...... 30 yrs down the road when chronic disease hit us..... will think  back .. why we still yet to found cure for what ills us and cause us so much pain ?
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Yup. Money lust will kill us all. Physics PhDs go to wall street to think of harebrained schemes to make money, instead of doing something useful with their skillsets.
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QUOTE(trewq @ Sep 8 2016, 01:19 AM)
Well maybe i should post this in rwd section. But has our progress in science and technology halted?
our technology has surely been advance a lot in the past 20-30 years.

But from what i see now, they are no breakthrough of technology. It is an improvement but not like a WOW, someone/some company has invented something that is advance ahead of a century or more. Most of them can only considered as an improvement of existing things.

eg:
- Pintu suka hati
- 4D pocket
- Time travel machine
- Torchlight that will absorb light (when turn on the torchlight, the entire area will become dark)
- Torchlight membesarkan dan mengecilkan barangan
- A machine that instant transfer object from one location to another (straight away membankruptkan pos laju and delivery service)
And bla bla bla

And siapa kata Our imagination is the only limit to what we can hope to have in the future

mempersiasuikan saja. i think above invention many people have heard of like few decades but until now no one is even near to success in building it,
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you are talking about impossible devices.

And no, technology hasnt halted, infact last 10 years has been a HUGE boom in new tech. Look at Tesla, look at Space X, look at upcoming Hyperloop.

Solar has improved in technology tremendously, cost is down, efficiency is up.
VR, Augmented R,
Drone technology (flight time, warfare,delivery)

so many wonderful new tech, these are just a few off the top of my mind



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QUOTE(arubin @ Sep 8 2016, 11:37 AM)
Yes it can. What do you think happened during the big bang?
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I dono. I'm not God.  biggrin.gif
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big bang created space n time..space was expanded at a rate which is faster than the speed of light
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Sep 8 2016, 11:18 AM)
Talking bout technology. Im sad coz (example below)
What we see now:

Global company with the best brains working inside, decided to improve the tech for the majority of able bodied people just to get more profit ,even though the "tech" is redundant or cause not much impact (for eg ... HD resolution phone to 4k resolution/ ultra sharp retina display) .

But.....

Technology (not costing a bomb)  to cure blindness / help the visually impaired to see  much better enuff for daily living.... is still FAR FAR AWAY.
The best brains are there all along , but they're not "exploited" /utilised to do something for less capable/weaker/sick humans.
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There's no profit to be made from curing disease, unless we allow the pharma companies to charge insane prices for the results of their R&D.

But that would make the cure so ludicrously expensive that most patients will no longer be able to afford them.

Its a tough problem to solve, and generally just requires countries to subsidize and pour money into research for which there will be no returns. The private sector mostly ain't gonna do it, and those who do usually end up wanting to charge an arm and leg for it when given the chance. Look at the whole stupid epipen price increase saga.

There is no political will to make that happen though.
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QUOTE(arubin @ Sep 8 2016, 12:49 PM)
There's no profit to be made from curing disease, unless we allow the pharma companies to charge insane prices for the results of their R&D.

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Human factor still. The Rnd might take ages coz not the best brains (in great numbers) are working and focusing to solve a single problem/diseases etc. And they wont pay well or gets much "respect" or admiration compared to lets say engineers and developers producing hyped up apps/games downloaded by billions for funs sake.


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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Sep 8 2016, 11:54 AM)
Human factor still. The Rnd might take ages coz not the best brains (in great numbers) are working and focusing to solve a single problem/diseases etc. And they wont pay well or gets much "respect" or admiration compared to lets say engineers and developers producing hyped up apps/games downloaded by billions for funs sake.
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Well, we can't assume that people who are good at IT will also be good at biochemical engineering. Everyone has their own interests, and the IT folks are contributing in their own small way to research in every other field. Actually, all the research fields are linked in some way if you zoom out far enough.

We spend billions on space programs which could also be used for medical research too. Is that a waste of money? Absolutely not. Experiments conducted on the ISS has also been valuable in the field of medicine.

Take Pokemon Go for example. Its also easy to say that the brains behind it contributed nothing useful to society and there's so much negative news about it, but the there's a whole lot more positivity too. It made a whole bunch of people get off their butts and go walk around the neighbourhood instead to play a game instead of sitting at home playing some other mobile game. That's definitely better for their health. At least their burning some calories and getting a bit of exercise, and hopefully that might improve their health and put less strain on the health system.

Admittedly, there really ought to be more funding for medicinal research, and we really should be trying to drum up more interest for it in schools. But it ain't exactly fair to blame the other fields for it though.
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Tech development and physics have not halted. It has progressed a lot, but a lot aren't revealed to the public, esp for military advancement and at CERN

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