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post Nov 16 2020, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ Nov 16 2020, 11:02 AM)
Congrats to Mir. Great last lap battle for Morbidelli and Miller, made me cringe all the way. Time to focus on next year. Hopefully Crutchlow can help Yamaha a lot next year. Still don't know who's taking the 2nd Aprilia seat. My wish(ful thinking) is for HS55 to be the surprise rider. He's ridden the Yamaha and KTM and he is relatively cheap lol. Can spend the extra money on development.
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They need a fast rider, maybe Bezzecchi can.
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post Nov 16 2020, 01:20 PM

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Another incredible stats I just read about Mir title is that he won with just average starting position of 8-9! Has there ever been an even lower average of other champs in the premier class or maybe this is a historic lowest!?
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post Nov 16 2020, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Nov 16 2020, 02:15 PM)
Surprisingly Mir only won once, with no pole, no fastest lap... I guess consistency is the key here.
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It's like Ducati simply is not interested to win and Yamaha guys beat themselves out of the title and gave it away to him. He is probably the luckiest champ, more so than Hayden. Surely not a great way to win the title but a title is a title and it counts the same in the record book.
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post Nov 16 2020, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ Nov 16 2020, 04:30 PM)
Yup. Title win a bit hollow this year without fans flocking the podium. The irony of MV joining Yamaha to win, but Suzuki beat him to it. Still got Moto2 and Moto3 to look forward to. It's really heating up.
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Oh ya MV might be kicking himself too if he really thinks about it! 😅 Mir needs to end the season with a win in the last race to show that he is not just be so lucky, at least he will tie Hayden tally and win with more points margin.
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post Nov 16 2020, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Nov 16 2020, 05:42 PM)
Breaking! Honda 2019 has 12 or 13 wins, this year 0 win. Worst bike of the year, lol. cool2.gif
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Honda and MM probably regretted that they tried to return racing too soon which worsen his injury. If he actually waited maybe another 2-3 races before returning, he might even still had a shot at the title.

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post Nov 16 2020, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Nov 16 2020, 06:12 PM)
I doubt MM able to participate next year's early few races...
Someone shared his view MM's 1st surgery was very poor.
https://www.reddit.com/r/motogp/comments/js...y_opinion_long/
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Hmm cannot really be sure. Dr. Mir obviously a highly regarded doctor in the motorcycle racing environment with proven track records of taking care of high profile sportsmen. Of course his team could've made a poor job for once but until really proven otherwise then it's inconclusive. I hope MM recovers soon and can fight at his best again from race 1 next year. As much as I am bored of seeing him winning all the time, his talent and career should not end in such an abrupt manner.

Btw is it a coincidence that his name is the same as the new motogp champ? 🤣
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post Nov 17 2020, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ Nov 17 2020, 10:39 AM)
We are not even sure if the first few races will still go on with this unpredictable pandemic!

I think MM will be on the grid. In Motogp riders timeline, it is already more than enough time to recover. Recover is one thing, getting back to optimum fitness is another. Hopefully he makes it the whole season next year(but please don't win too much lol).
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If MM returns with full fitness next year, I suspect he could be more freshly motivated and hungry to get back beating the crap out of everyone again! 🤣
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post Nov 17 2020, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ Nov 17 2020, 12:37 PM)
Next year there are many variables to take into account. For one, the MM Honda has changed a lot to suit the other riders. If he can adapt his style to it then fine, if not he has to change back the bike. Suzuki is stronger, KTM could still improve more next year. Not sure about Ducati but Yamaha has Crutchlow now to develop the bike. At the moment we can only wait and see. Actually I can't wait for next season to start.
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Not sure how far has Honda changed their bikes, but my guess is not that much until MM will struggle a lot on it. I think MM should not have too much difficulties either way.

Suzuki now has strong race pace but they need to still up their pace bit and increase a lot in qualifying.

For Duc, JM seem getting better but I don't they they will be consistently strong enough for title challenge.

Yamaha should still be strong. Their problem aside from the tricky/inconsistent setup of the bike is they have too many similar level riders that can take away wins and points from each other! Morbi was earlier thought to be lower level than FQ and MV but this year proves that he could be right up there too and his confidence should be sky high now.
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post Nov 21 2020, 06:48 PM

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Duc looking strong with Jack on top fp3 and Dovi in 4th plus Zarco in 6th which bodes well to try win the constructor title for Duc. Rins for Suzuki looks good in 3rd but Mir only 15th so need to go Q1. Morbi also only managed 11th. VR is embarrassingly 1.5sec slower and down in 20th! Maybe time for him to retire after next year already, he is obviously getting slower everytime now.
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post Nov 22 2020, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Nov 21 2020, 11:22 PM)
So Mir in honeymoon mood after won championship? Rins is qualified so far ahead in front...
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Yeah, so looks like it's between Miller vs Rins for the Duc vs Suzuki constructor title battle.
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post Nov 22 2020, 09:00 PM

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Wow moto2 is pretty intense now.
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post Nov 22 2020, 09:20 PM

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Bastianini world champ!
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post Nov 22 2020, 10:44 PM

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Rins and FQ dropping like stone, even behind the old man VR!
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post Nov 22 2020, 10:50 PM

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Miller got his revenge over Morbi and Duc wins manufacturers title. Dominant win by Miguel to cap off a great year for KTM.
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post Nov 22 2020, 11:31 PM

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Just realized that Yamaha overtakes Suzuki and VR ends up so low in 15th even behind the rookie Alex M. Who would've thought in such open season, VR did his worse!
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post Nov 23 2020, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Nov 23 2020, 08:55 AM)
It's incredible the 2020 M1 started the season in high, dominating 1-2, then keep rolling back and ended the last race with 11th, 12th, and 14th.
Meanwhile 2019 M1 achieved better result with FM. It's funny the satellite team and older bike beats them!
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Morbi on the 19 M1 might've won the title if not for that 1 retirement due to the valve issue. Yamaha seems got loss of direction in their development, maybe the 3 riders gave different inputs on how to solve the same issues, while the 19 bike was able to focus more coz only 1 rider input.
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post Nov 23 2020, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ Nov 23 2020, 01:19 PM)
What a season! What a season ender! I am totally giving this season 5 stars out of 5.No matter who ended first and who ended last, virtually everyone had their ups and downs(except Rabat maybe). Same goes to Moto3 and Moto2.

Kinda sad after the race when everyone doing their farewells. Some people leaving and some jumping teams. Even when Lorenzo left it was like nothing special. Images of Rossi hugging the team members, LCR's goodbye to Cal was really touching.

Can't wait for next season to start!!
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I'd give 4/5 because it was so open right until the penultimate race, lots of surprises, and new winners, just missing half point due to MM not around and another half coz VR practically went anonymous throughout.
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post Nov 23 2020, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ Nov 23 2020, 02:45 PM)
Agreed on MM part but VR was the most consistent Yamaha rider for 2/3 of the season, with a podium even.
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He only got 1 podium then the rest of the time he was just hovering in the mid-back or crash. That's not consistent unless you mean consistently slower. He only looked a bit promising in races 2-6 or just 5 races and even so not particularly strong either.

QUOTE(voscar @ Nov 23 2020, 03:13 PM)
Biggest Loser of the 2020 season: MM with zero point
Imagine without the 1st race crash, he could've crushing this field with consistent podium finishes. If that happen I guess now everyone will remark 2020 season as boring, another MM year, lol. cool2.gif
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IMHO the biggest losers are Yamaha, VR, and Dovi. MM to me just unlucky due injury but not due to his weak performance.
Yamaha is biggest loser because they have the fastest bike overall yet cannot win a single title.
VR because he was just lackluster until even a common rookie on a slower bike (AM) beats him and could not even capitalize a single win while there were so many others able to win for their first time. He was slow yet he crashed many times too.
Dovi because it's his biggest opportunity to finally win it yet he also could not capitalize while on his way out to unknown future.
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post Nov 26 2020, 01:30 PM

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Btw there's rumour that MM might need another operation for bone transplant if his bone now still not yet fully healed! If he does need this 3rd one, he might miss again the first few races next year, not good news. 😕

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post Nov 26 2020, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(RalphRatedR @ Nov 26 2020, 05:10 PM)
I hardly buy these rumours, but if Dr. Claudio Costa claimed that the surgeons screwed up the op, Marquez might as well go to him.
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We should know within the next few days. The news said they're now checking the result to determine if need to do 3rd surgery or not. Hopefully good news otherwise it might hamper him again next season.

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