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post Oct 17 2016, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Oct 16 2016, 09:08 PM)
Even if you're a professional.

You are still a normal human being; make mistakes.

Sad for Rossi.

Four(4) DNF in 2016.

MotoGP Japan: Valentino Rossi: No warning before Motegi misery


"Sincerely, I felt nothing... but I lost the front and logically I made a mistake" - Valentino Rossi.

Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/234487/1/...igroJfmrerlS.99

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If you read Lorenzo's comment after his crash, it's similar. He said there's no feedback from the front. They chosen the wrong front tyres I guess.
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post Oct 17 2016, 01:13 PM

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Last year's Yamaha damn good, almost never had any crash, coming this year always crash and engine failure, so handed over championship to non-competitive but consistent's Honda rider
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post Oct 17 2016, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Oct 17 2016, 10:22 AM)
If you read Lorenzo's comment after his crash, it's similar. He said there's no feedback from the front. They chosen the wrong front tyres I guess.
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The odd thing is, if you look at JL's crash replays, he seemed to lost the rear first! biggrin.gif
VR also said he did not go wide or off-line but from the replays it seemed like he did go a bit wide then crash but at least he did lost the front pretty obviously.
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post Oct 17 2016, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Oct 17 2016, 01:17 AM)
and in 2015 he should have won if not 4 the bad strategy and the sepang debacle doh.gif doh.gif
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His 2016 season are worse than 2015.

Not a single DNF in 2015; just pure bad luck/decisions that cost him the title.

2016...Michelin tyres is the culprit...at least to the Yamaha YZR-M1 team.

Jorge DNF three(3) times.

Marques...none.



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post Oct 17 2016, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ Oct 17 2016, 07:06 AM)
Still battle for top Yamaha though
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Yeah that's the only thing left now, some intra-team battle for pride. Anyway I've already started to take it that way since a few races back coz I already felt that it's too difficult to catch MM. So to me the fact that MM has sealed the title doesn't change much.
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post Oct 17 2016, 01:29 PM

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Marc is a deserved champ for 2016. He rode with a lot of maturity this year. Unlike JL who totally sucked in the wet races this year and VR who's well...getting old perhaps
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post Oct 17 2016, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Oct 17 2016, 01:29 PM)
Marc is a deserved champ for 2016. He rode with a lot of maturity this year. Unlike JL who totally sucked in the wet races this year and VR who's well...getting old perhaps
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Yeah, if VR like 10 years back vs MM now, then that will be a hell of a fight! biggrin.gif
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post Oct 17 2016, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 17 2016, 01:19 PM)
The odd thing is, if you look at JL's crash replays, he seemed to lost the rear first!  biggrin.gif 
VR also said he did not go wide or off-line but from the replays it seemed like he did go a bit wide then crash but at least he did lost the front pretty obviously.
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I see. I didn't watch the moment both fell... lol. When I was watching, Rossi was out and Lorenzo was 2nd. Then I switched it off. doh.gif
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post Oct 17 2016, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 17 2016, 01:46 PM)
Yeah, if VR like 10 years back vs MM now, then that will be a hell of a fight!  biggrin.gif
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Changing of the guard I guess. MM is a talented racer no doubt about that. He'll continue to be at the top of the championship for many years to come. After VR retires JL would be in the twilight years of his career as well. Wonder who can take the fight to MM. MV maybe? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Oct 17 2016, 01:55 PM)
Changing of the guard I guess. MM is a talented racer no doubt about that. He'll continue to be at the top of the championship for many years to come. After VR retires JL would be in the twilight years of his career as well. Wonder who can take the fight to MM. MV maybe? hmm.gif
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Not sure if MV can match that level. So far he seems fast but I think has not stand out as much as VR or MM back then when they rose to the top. He has not totally dominate his team mates so far. VR when at the top of his game destroyed all his team mates comprehensively. VR only lost to JL once he starts getting old. MM now has dominated all his team mates including a very fast DP. I suppose we'll just have to wait & see next year when MV teams up with VR whether he can match or even beat VR.

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 17 2016, 01:46 PM)
Yeah, if VR like 10 years back vs MM now, then that will be a hell of a fight!  biggrin.gif
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2000 kenny roberts jr vs the doctor was the bomb of all bombs rclxms.gif

of course not forgetting 2008 stoner vs the doctor in laguna seca that definitely seal the fate of the title in VR favour laugh.gif
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post Oct 18 2016, 12:04 AM

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oh my God, looking forward to that event
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post Oct 18 2016, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Oct 17 2016, 11:48 PM)
2000 kenny roberts jr vs the doctor was the bomb of all bombs rclxms.gif

of course not forgetting 2008 stoner vs the doctor in laguna seca that definitely seal the fate of the title in VR favour laugh.gif
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I remember before the race, Rossi said he need a gun to shoot stoner or start 30sec earlier sort of.. then the next day he won the battle!
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post Oct 18 2016, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 17 2016, 01:23 PM)
Yeah that's the only thing left now, some intra-team battle for pride. Anyway I've already started to take it that way since a few races back coz I already felt that it's too difficult to catch MM. So to me the fact that MM has sealed the title doesn't change much.
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Never give up till it's over.

QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Oct 17 2016, 01:29 PM)
Marc is a deserved champ for 2016. He rode with a lot of maturity this year. Unlike JL who totally sucked in the wet races this year and VR who's well...getting old perhaps
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Old but experienced.

Hopefully new riders can step up to add to the challenges. I see the trend of British riders coming up from the junior classes and the Italians seem to be a lot in moto3 too. I wish there were more potential Asian riders around though.
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post Oct 18 2016, 12:11 PM

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I am confident Rossi will win 2nd place in the Championship.

He has a better race craft than his team mate.

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post Oct 18 2016, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Oct 18 2016, 12:11 PM)
I am confident Rossi will win 2nd place in the Championship.

He has a better race craft than his team mate.

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Me too, lorenzo's performance has been quite inconsistent of late.
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post Oct 18 2016, 12:40 PM

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Moving on...

Karel Abraham back in MotoGP

2017 MotoGP rider line-up so far
Repsol Honda
Marc Marquez (End of 2018)
Dani Pedrosa (End of 2018)

Movistar Yamaha
Valentino Rossi (End of 2018)
Maverick Vinales (End of 2018)

Ducati Team
Jorge Lorenzo (End of 2018)
Andrea Dovizioso (End of 2018)

Suzuki
Andrea Iannone (End of 2018)
Alex Rins (End of 2018)

KTM
Bradley Smith (End of 2018)
Pol Espargaro (End of 2018)

Aprilia Gresini
Sam Lowes (End of 2018)
Aleix Espargaro (End of 2018)

LCR Honda
Cal Crutchlow (End of 2017)

Marc VDS Honda
Jack Miller (End of 2017)
Tito Rabat (End of 2017)

Monster Yamaha Tech 3
Jonas Folger (End of 2017, Option 2018)
Johann Zarco (End of 2017, Option 2018)

Avintia Ducati
Hector Barbera (End of 2017)
Loris Baz (End of 2017)
Barbera will ride a GP16 and Baz a GP15.

Pramac Ducati
Scott Redding
Danilo Petrucci
One rider will get a GP17 and then other a GP16.

Aspar Ducati
Alvaro Bautista (End of 2017)
Karel Abraham (End of 2017)


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QUOTE(Aydee @ Oct 18 2016, 11:53 AM)
Never give up till it's over.
Old but experienced.

Hopefully new riders can step up to add to the challenges. I see the trend of British riders coming up from the junior classes and the Italians seem to be a lot in moto3 too. I wish there were more potential Asian riders around though.
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Hoping there will be new british chanpion in motogp one day hahahaha laugh.gif if stoner can represent aussie i am sure british can do better than that rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Oct 18 2016, 12:48 PM)
Hoping there will be new british chanpion in motogp one day hahahaha laugh.gif if stoner can represent aussie i am sure british can do better than that rclxms.gif
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Sam lowes has potential but we'll see.
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from the comment of yamaha team, both riders fell due to front tyre.
VR under braking, JL during open throttle. so its different situation for both riders.


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