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New Nissan GT-R 2017 vs Audi R8 V10 Plus, which would you... ?
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kadajawi
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Nov 6 2016, 07:44 PM
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Heart says GT-R, but brain says Audi. Too worried about DSG issues on the GT-R... yes, they claim to have fixed the issues, but I don't want a car that doesn't let me drive fast because the gearbox overheats... that forces me to go to the SC every time I drive fast, or use the launch control for like 3 times. That's just silly. And there have been too many broken GT-R gearboxes, despite those idiotic things like 3 launches, then go SC to replace the gearbox oil (which a) doesn't come cheap, and b) not every Nissan SC can do).
Basically Nissan knows their gearbox is unreliable and sensitive as hell, but they sell the car regardless. Shame on them.
This post has been edited by kadajawi: Nov 6 2016, 07:48 PM
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kadajawi
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Nov 7 2016, 06:52 AM
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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Nov 7 2016, 06:08 AM) Heh, traffic light and straight highway warriors. GTR is just a way for Nissan to make money, selling gearbox. Folks at gtrlife were screaming at Nissan for not even attempting to fix the box. Gimme 22k and you'll have a new box with the same tendency to poop given that you the owner just went over the line. Litchfields is a way to go. Even if I were not to do those things (and why would I buy a GT-R then?), I don't like the idea of a car with such a big flaw. VW/Audi may be blamed for using gearboxes that are JUST enough to handle the engine, which isn't a particularly good idea. But Nissan using a gearbox that can't handle the engine? That's just insane.
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kadajawi
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Nov 8 2016, 04:10 AM
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Nov 7 2016, 03:13 PM) Nissan should've made the manual version but then would not be as staggeringly quick as it is. My suspicion is that the lightning quick times of the GT-R are in parts to blame for the reliability issues. They are pushing the gearbox very, very hard during those launch control starts, perhaps other cars with similar power to weight ratio could be as fast, if they were to drop the clutch at such a high rpm. But they try to preserve the clutch, so they don't try to go for the last tenth of a second... Just a hunch. That the engineers didn't expect people to push the car hard... seriously? Is it a spacious car? No. Is it a cheap car? No. Is it a comfortable or luxurious car? No. No, no, and no. The sole purpose of the GT-R is fast lap times/bragging rights/drag races. That's like engineers being surprised if people use an MPV to transport people... This post has been edited by kadajawi: Nov 8 2016, 04:12 AM
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kadajawi
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Nov 8 2016, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Nov 8 2016, 06:34 AM) Why all other manufacturer's model didn't suffer such problem? Since nearly all supercar does dump clutch that way Maybe not so extreme. Maybe the GT-R is more brutal. Instead of 3000 rpm they do it at 4500 rpm... Maybe the GT-R drops it extremely quick, while other cars leave a bit more time, so the forces working on the gearbox aren't as strong. Maybe. Or the Nissan engineers just screwed up/couldn't be bothered. Who know. I hope that's not it though.
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