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JonRobin
post Sep 23 2018, 05:09 PM

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re: Which one is best? Terence Tan, or Ken Teng, or Daniel Loh, or others


Any Daniel Loh course graduates, can share a feedback on his course, and how has your trading been using his teachings?

I am currently digging for feedbacks, trying to decide which Options Trading course should I enrol in.

I will definitely enrol, and them having similar prices here in Singapore, I am just deciding which one to choose.

Graduates please comment and share your feedback.

If you are a graduate of Terence Tan, or Ken Teng, or other Options Trading courses, please please please comment to on how your trading did when following their teachings.
JonRobin
post Sep 25 2018, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(aiklee10 @ Sep 25 2018, 11:33 AM)
Thanks. No options trading course feedback yet on that site.
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post Oct 15 2018, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(markteo8188 @ Feb 12 2018, 09:13 AM)
I have attend his class at year 2017 and guess what I get now. My account was burst in 1night and I still owe the booker by 2k usd plus. That was terrible when I saw my 10k account with 2k winning has loss 14k in a night and it just happen in last tue (6 Feb 2018), Im in a very terrible mood now and CNY is coming and I had no mood to celebrate it at all.

Please don't trade as what he mention even though the winning rate was high, as the lost might be more than 100times than your profit. Just imagine you are a 4D owner and someone hit on the 1st price and you gonna pay for it. His method was we become the seller of the option and when trend is opposite of you and you need to pay for it.

We place our trade at pitm 5% with faraway from current market price, but the S&P500 are  not even drop for 10% and our money all gone. Your trade no need to be ITM as he spoke during preview and you already receive a margin call to top up or they will force close your trade for big loss. And the advise he give was push us die further as the advice trade is all lose. Somehow since end of last year he already push us to hell as most of the trade he advice was wrong, for student which join in end of last year has not even enjoy win trade but already burst.

This is win small and loss big game and you will not be able to afford to pay it. FYI I only use 15% of my margin to trade but all gone. Don't you feel curious why the record show during his preview was long time ago result...What is the trading result for those which have a big earn on 2012-2014?? Big question mark as their trade for recent year already not been found.

Hope everyone out there which haven't suffer from big loss, please don't risk your money into this. You will only contribute it to build someone account look more nicer and he wont rent you any help when problem arise.
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Thanks.

Most courses also emphasize money management.

You seem to have exposed too much, putting you at the mercy of small swings causing margin calls.

Did you follow, if any, the risk/money management taught in the course?

Or the course actually recommended that it is safe to 'gamble' that way?

JonRobin
post Oct 17 2018, 10:21 AM

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The fact that very few graduates give a positive feedback, is very worrying.
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post Oct 29 2018, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 29 2018, 09:31 PM)
..... which comes up to around 4-7% per month. Did it for 2 years......
Thank you very much for sharing! I appreciate it greatly!

You did average 4% monthly profit for 2 years? 4% monthly is about 50% annually. 50% is huge. Not even mutual funds can give that consistently.


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post Oct 29 2018, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 29 2018, 09:56 PM)
..... so i need more income. .....
I think if you are making 4% monthly on the average, on options trading, that is your chicken that can lay golden egg - the solution to many people's problem.

There is just one thing you need, which is typical in investing - capital.

You are not satisfied 4% monthly return, because your capital is small.

Just keep trying to get a job, and increase your capital.

Nowhere on the planet can you get such huge returns easily. Not even in real estate investing. Forex (which you most likely are using with leverage), is almost always gambling. While you can gain 4% in options trading, you can gain NEGATIVE 100% in forex. Options trading would be better.

May I know how many hours do you spend, to achieve that average of 4% monthly on options trading? How many daily and in total, how many hours per month, if you dont mind?
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post Oct 29 2018, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 29 2018, 09:53 PM)
..... I saw it every week when they put their positions in the facebook group.....
Is that 'facebook group' a "closed" group for graduates?

QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 29 2018, 09:53 PM)
.....Try to go for options classes that teach repairs....
May I know if the Daniel Loh course you attended do teach repairs?

Terence Tan course highlighted repair a lot during his free preview.

I believe the Ken Teng course also did mentioned repair in his free preview.
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post Oct 30 2018, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 29 2018, 11:31 PM)
Yes I would say when it comes to options trading, repair is the most important thing.

I do understand from some friends that Terence Tan teach how to trade options weekly by selling options on stocks. From my experience, it is pretty risky. Bcos when stocks gap down, there is no chance to repair but to take the losses on weekly options.

Ken Teng is a student of Sean Seah. Do not know whether he teach the same trading method. Sean Seah's method is to sell naked put option on stock. That needs a lot of capital. Buying a stock like Apple today cost US$22000 per lot. Big capital needed just to start trading this method.

Overall, selling options does give high chance of winning. Most importantly is not to overtrade and learn repairing.
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Thank you for sharing all the info. This is helpful especially to those considering to enrol, like me.

You mentioned "boring" except during crash. During crash, how long (likes hours/minutes, and how many days) you need to do your actions (like repairs, etc.)?

I also got addicted to forex. Used mt4 robots, indicators, and also coded my own indicators and robots. 2 years time money effort wasted. I concluded to myself: forex is gambling.
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post Oct 30 2018, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(elvenchou1987 @ Oct 30 2018, 02:28 AM)
Came across this post and I would like to share my 2 cents.

I have been an options trader since 2015 and I come from a background of 0 knowledge on Options & US stock market. Paying a course fee of few thousands may sound absurd considering you have free access to plenty of online resources for free or by buying books. But here is the difference, even when you buy books & read it, you only gain theoretically knowledge. You still have to do alot of research online or books to further expand your horizons. Bear in mind there is no one there to guide you on this journey. Imagine a whole lot of time used up for this tasks prior to trading itself.

On the other hand by paying a course fee (which usually includes hiring a mentor), you are able learn the background & understand the concept during the course itself. What's more, usually the trainer (or mentor) shares his trade secrets/formula based on his past experiences (failures & success). Moreover, the mentor is suppose to guide you based on his option trading methodology.

So in the end, you are not wasting $$$. You are paying to get a potential life mentor, a proven trading methodology, a deep understanding on options trading, etc. Think of it as paying for your degree while you were at university (just that there is no certifications this time). Have you ever seen any famous athletes without any mentors? If you want to be good at what you at, hire a mentor.

As for me, I joined the IMP Course by Terrence Tan (A singaporean trader & mentor) & I paid SGD 3k for it. I was able to earn all the course fee within 8 months & have continuously gain profits till now. Even during the recent market. This is all due to Terrence (my mentor's) trading methodology in stock picking & Risk management strategies. There is a growing community in SG, MY, Vietnam and Thailand following his methodology. And what is most important is he is providing life-long mentor-ship.

Some may think that RM4k is expensive for a course. But no one ever questions how expensive is tertiary education is. Food for thought smile.gif

Disclaimer : I am not promoting any courses here, but just sharing my thoughts.
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Tnx for reposting. Informative.

If i will trade 200k, i wont mind 3k. Thats how i convince myself. Also profit potential. And disadvantage if i dont.

Risk, yes, as we dont know if it works. Thats the hard part when deciding to enrol or not.

Feedback by graduates helps a lot.

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post Oct 31 2018, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(sdpadhiyar @ Oct 30 2018, 11:40 PM)
Please advise, where to open the account for trading in options, I have attended Danial's seminar and he shown his live account from selection of S&P index, Turkey index, Crude oil and etc..

I would like to know, what is that account name, how to open the trade account for trading in options.

Kindly advise.. Thanks in advance.
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Which broker? In singapore, try tdameritrade.

But really success on it wouldnt matter much on which broker you choose.

But tdameritrade (also known as tos / think or swim) has nice software and the info in it.
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post Nov 4 2018, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 30 2018, 03:35 PM)
In Daniel's Class, he focused a lot on repairs. I would say 70% of his syllabus is on repairs, to let us understand how to react to different situations.

From my experience, I take around 20 minutes to try to get everything done. Of course in a crash, i would just take the market price. Then it will be filled instantly.

After repair, i normally tried not to pay attention to market news as it will affect our emotions.

I do agreed that Forex is risky, hence a stop loss is a MUST. With Options, I don't need one. Just monitor and manage my positions 5 mins a day.
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Hi Bentley,

Thanks.

Hi Bentley and graduates of options courses (daniel loh, terence tan, ken teng, etc.),

I was googling and studying options online and saw this US online club OptionsAnimal. It is quite expensive at around 6k US$. It is a an on-demand lifetime online course (complete course, including topics for total beginners), where you can review anytime anywhere you want.

I saw that they have some potentially very very helpful content on how to do the trades from start to end (including and especially REPAIR/ROLLING/ADJUSTMENT), by sharing a flowchart that shows actions that can be done based on each investment (option strategy ) type and market situation.

Example, trading a xxxx type of spread, then things go against your position, and the flowchart shows arrows and decision points on what choices you can do, or what actions you can do next. This is sort of (after learning the required knowledge and terminologies), a help on making the process a no-brainer and a good memory guide.

My question is. Does Daniel Loh's course (or graduates here of other instructors, please answer also), provide such good (visual) flowchart ('map' or 'guide') on choices of actions, per investment type, and per market changes. Like a flow below.

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This post has been edited by JonRobin: Nov 4 2018, 02:41 PM
JonRobin
post Nov 19 2018, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(aiklee10 @ Nov 19 2018, 08:11 AM)
Lesson.

1.No one cares about your money more than you. Learn how to do it and do it yourself. Dont give to nobody to let him trade your money.

The only reason why the hedge fund traders did that, traded without protection, is because it is not their money. They will never trade like that with their own money.


2.never naked short option.always hedge or limit damage from moment u enter.

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