Daniel loh options trading
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 Aug 31 2016, 03:27 PM, updated 10y ago
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Hey guys, I have some doubts in my mind, hve you guys come across with this options trading ? Recently I have came across with ths and in order to sign up for his course, I need to pay RM4250 course fee. Anyone of you have attended the course before and do you think that it is worth it to sign up for the course ? thank you.
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Aug 31 2016, 03:38 PM
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lol... pay him to attend then if in the end you still dunno how to trade how? got refund?
I just subscribed to signal provider and have the trading automated. spend less and so far having good results  |
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Aug 31 2016, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(Carbeginner @ Aug 31 2016, 03:27 PM) Hey guys, I have some doubts in my mind, hve you guys come across with this options trading ? Recently I have came across with ths and in order to sign up for his course, I need to pay RM4250 course fee. Anyone of you have attended the course before and do you think that it is worth it to sign up for the course ? thank you. Option trading? Sell to open? Its not easy as he claim |
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Sep 1 2016, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(Carbeginner @ Aug 31 2016, 03:27 PM) Hey guys, I have some doubts in my mind, hve you guys come across with this options trading ? Recently I have came across with ths and in order to sign up for his course, I need to pay RM4250 course fee. Anyone of you have attended the course before and do you think that it is worth it to sign up for the course ? thank you. Why do you need to spend over rm4k for a course? Have you bought a single book on options to read? All course materials of most option seminars are rehashing of old materials.  |
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Sep 1 2016, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(danieln @ Aug 31 2016, 03:38 PM) lol... pay him to attend then if in the end you still dunno how to trade how? got refund? If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I just subscribed to signal provider and have the trading automated. spend less and so far having good results  |
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Sep 1 2016, 01:15 AM
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Btw, he guaranteed a 90% winning possibility for his trade. I am not sure about it so I ask in this forum to see who have the similar experience like me and have attended his course. I have invested in bursa Malaysia and actually lose some money in it.
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Sep 1 2016, 07:44 AM
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lol...90%. if that easy would he give you a black & white agreement that it the rate falls below that then he will refund you or bare your loss?
the highest option signal so far I come across is about 60% - 70% winning rate. if he so good he can be a super fund manager managing millions no need travel around giving expensive courses la. i prefer binary options where i can play as small as usd10 per transaction, at least if loss also not so heart ache and you will know it within a day....LOL |
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Sep 1 2016, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE(Carbeginner @ Sep 1 2016, 01:15 AM) Btw, he guaranteed a 90% winning possibility for his trade. I am not sure about it so I ask in this forum to see who have the similar experience like me and have attended his course. I have invested in bursa Malaysia and actually lose some money in it. Too good to be true. Options not just require some knowledge but also some luck. If he is hitting 90% winning probabilities, he is one of the luckiest men in the world. No way man. At most maybe in the 70s range. Even my warrants/options winning rate is barely over 70%. Also, sell to open? I believe he is selling options to the market and collecting premium? It is not as easy as many claim. Once again, you also need luck. Let's say you sell calls, meaning the market has to remain consistent or go down for you to win your trades. Not as easy as it sounds. Most say they do that for a living, but how long you can keep this up remains to be seen. |
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Sep 1 2016, 09:25 AM
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he will say, buy the put option and sell option of the same instrument at the same time...
hahaha, so you will win most of the time... i bet lar.... (during the preview, at least). have you attended any preview? also, i don't think you should go into option if you have no idea what is it all about. it's not easy as he claim though.... |
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Sep 1 2016, 09:28 AM
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he gets rich before you do in trading
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Sep 1 2016, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(Carbeginner @ Sep 1 2016, 01:15 AM) Btw, he guaranteed a 90% winning possibility for his trade. I am not sure about it so I ask in this forum to see who have the similar experience like me and have attended his course. I have invested in bursa Malaysia and actually lose some money in it. If he really 90% winning, he already billionaire today. No need come out cheat people for the course |
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Nov 29 2016, 09:03 AM
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Hey Guys, thanks for the update, i think it's not worth the money, if I were to withdraw, my deposit will fly away 😩
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Nov 29 2016, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(Carbeginner @ Nov 29 2016, 09:03 AM) Hey Guys, thanks for the update, i think it's not worth the money, if I were to withdraw, my deposit will fly away 😩 how much ur deposit? |
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Dec 5 2016, 12:11 AM
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If he is so good, then u shud use 4k as the capital for him to JV with u.
If he win, he takes 50%.. If lose, he also take 50% of the losses |
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Dec 5 2016, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 5 2016, 12:11 AM) If he is so good, then u shud use 4k as the capital for him to JV with u. He dont have time to trade for uIf he win, he takes 50%.. If lose, he also take 50% of the losses |
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Dec 6 2016, 12:36 PM
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can see most of the 'advisers' here are not real options player or only half baked.
90% winning rate is very doable in the world of options. May those attended his class before give opinion please. |
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Dec 6 2016, 12:38 PM
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If he has such a high success rate why bother selling courses for few K?
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Dec 6 2016, 01:51 PM
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Any promise of easy profits.... Just run man! Dun turn around and look... Just run!
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Dec 6 2016, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Dec 6 2016, 12:38 PM) If he has such a high success rate why bother selling courses for few K? for the real answer someone need to ask him. same like want to ask those professor you are so good already why need to teach students some more, ask warren buffet/bill gate you are so rich already why still want to work? I just want to enlighten all those 90% winning rate is not abnormal in options world. I myself also can achieve 90-95% win rate, but I still willing to learn from him if got new thing to learn. |
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Dec 6 2016, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(apathen @ Dec 6 2016, 01:55 PM) for the real answer someone need to ask him. how many warren buffet we have in this world? same like want to ask those professor you are so good already why need to teach students some more, ask warren buffet/bill gate you are so rich already why still want to work? I just want to enlighten all those 90% winning rate is not abnormal in options world. I myself also can achieve 90-95% win rate, but I still willing to learn from him if got new thing to learn. so you're saying this fella already achieved the level equivalent to warren buffet? typical answer is, i wanna give back to the society. I wanna help the rest. Let's make it together, etc etc etc...... invest or not to invest, your call. fishy or not, your own call. |
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Dec 6 2016, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(apathen @ Dec 6 2016, 01:55 PM) for the real answer someone need to ask him. Win rate of 95% can still lose money in the long run. Do you understand this statement or not? All the answers you need is in this statement. Run now!same like want to ask those professor you are so good already why need to teach students some more, ask warren buffet/bill gate you are so rich already why still want to work? I just want to enlighten all those 90% winning rate is not abnormal in options world. I myself also can achieve 90-95% win rate, but I still willing to learn from him if got new thing to learn. |
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Dec 6 2016, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Dec 6 2016, 03:43 PM) how many warren buffet we have in this world? i can't answer for him, that's why i asked those who have this question to ask him direct.so you're saying this fella already achieved the level equivalent to warren buffet? typical answer is, i wanna give back to the society. I wanna help the rest. Let's make it together, etc etc etc...... invest or not to invest, your call. fishy or not, your own call. there is only one warren buffet, there are also jack ma, robert kuok, Zuckerberg, richard branson and etc you can also ask them the same question with the wealth they have. Is it relevant ? The point is instead of understand the content all just interested to attack on personality or intention. If it's a legitimate way of him making money, what's wrong with that? or anything that is not free is scam ? It's a willing buyer and willing seller market, you make your own decision. Instead of answer initial question on worthiness of the class, those clueless try to be expert, when point at their blind spot want to attack messenger pulak, what a bunch of ...... This post has been edited by apathen: Dec 6 2016, 06:01 PM |
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Dec 6 2016, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Dec 6 2016, 05:17 PM) Win rate of 95% can still lose money in the long run. Do you understand this statement or not? All the answers you need is in this statement. Run now! which part make you think i don't understand? they are arguing about 90% win rate is not possible but i said is possible. They are not talking about profitability. why run ? |
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Dec 8 2016, 03:09 PM
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went to his class too,
i can see he is desperately want people to join him he even offer 0% monthly installment for his class. |
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Dec 8 2016, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(Nail Biting @ Dec 8 2016, 03:09 PM) went to his class too, its part of sales marketing.i can see he is desperately want people to join him he even offer 0% monthly installment for his class. |
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Dec 8 2016, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(Nail Biting @ Dec 8 2016, 03:09 PM) went to his class too, i guess u seldom attend training preview, almost all training class i went offer this, it's provided by credit card company .i can see he is desperately want people to join him he even offer 0% monthly installment for his class. |
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Dec 9 2016, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 8 2016, 09:26 PM) its part of sales marketing. QUOTE(apathen @ Dec 8 2016, 10:16 PM) i guess u seldom attend training preview, almost all training class i went offer this, it's provided by credit card company . I agree but he is giving too much promising of 90% return rate in few days which make me skeptical.ya this is actually mu first time attending these training preview |
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Dec 9 2016, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(Nail Biting @ Dec 9 2016, 10:47 AM) I agree but he is giving too much promising of 90% return rate in few days which make me skeptical.ya this is actually mu first time attending these training preview read or hear him carefully, it's not 90% return rate(profit) but is 90% winning rate bcos he base on probability, that are 2 different thing . |
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Dec 9 2016, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(apathen @ Dec 9 2016, 01:11 PM) read or hear him carefully, it's not 90% return rate(profit) but is 90% winning rate bcos he base on probability, that are 2 different thing . Wow !!! You guys talk insanely high win rates.Establishing personal win rates is essential to set up proper stop loss margins in a profitable trading system. Essentially a 55% win rate system is already good enough. |
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Mar 1 2017, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(Carbeginner @ Aug 31 2016, 03:27 PM) Hey guys, I have some doubts in my mind, hve you guys come across with this options trading ? Recently I have came across with ths and in order to sign up for his course, I need to pay RM4250 course fee. Anyone of you have attended the course before and do you think that it is worth it to sign up for the course ? thank you. Hi, how was your class?i am thinking also join the class. What is your advise? |
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Mar 3 2017, 10:33 AM
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you can always learn option online for free, join this group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/UltimateOption/ |
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Apr 14 2017, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(Carbeginner @ Aug 31 2016, 03:27 PM) Hey guys, I have some doubts in my mind, hve you guys come across with this options trading ? Recently I have came across with ths and in order to sign up for his course, I need to pay RM4250 course fee. Anyone of you have attended the course before and do you think that it is worth it to sign up for the course ? thank you. Just happened to bump into this threads.I attended Daniel's class in Jun 2015. And actively trading since. He mainly taught trading of stock options and futures options of US market (S&P 500, gold, crude oil, soy, wheat, corn etc). I lost 60% of my capital after 3 months trading. But since then managed to recoup all losses in 6 months. The strategy was to open (sell) credit spread with 5% probability ITM. Last year was my first full year trading and I managed to achieve 100% win rate of all my trades (too good to be true?) and about 100% annual ROI. I am not boasting. Just to share. BTW, I was totally new to options trading. Zero experience prior to joining the class. We have an active FB closed group for cross learning or ask questions. So far 2941 members - all are students attended Daniel's class Daniel is going to have another training session in KL from May 24 to May 26 (2 days theoritical and one day actual live trading during US hours) This post has been edited by leongkk: Apr 14 2017, 03:48 PM |
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Apr 15 2017, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(aiklee10 @ Mar 3 2017, 10:33 AM) you can always learn option online for free, join this group Ha ha. The admin of this FB group is the student of Daniel Lohhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/UltimateOption/ |
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Apr 15 2017, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(aiklee10 @ Mar 3 2017, 10:33 AM) you can always learn option online for free, join this group Ha ha. The admin of this FB group is the student of Daniel Lohhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/UltimateOption/ |
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May 5 2017, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(leongkk @ Apr 14 2017, 03:35 PM) Just happened to bump into this threads. I am interested for a crash course on options trading, but cant find any info on Daniel training session in May. Can tell where to find that and who is the organiser?I attended Daniel's class in Jun 2015. And actively trading since. He mainly taught trading of stock options and futures options of US market (S&P 500, gold, crude oil, soy, wheat, corn etc). I lost 60% of my capital after 3 months trading. But since then managed to recoup all losses in 6 months. The strategy was to open (sell) credit spread with 5% probability ITM. Last year was my first full year trading and I managed to achieve 100% win rate of all my trades (too good to be true?) and about 100% annual ROI. I am not boasting. Just to share. BTW, I was totally new to options trading. Zero experience prior to joining the class. We have an active FB closed group for cross learning or ask questions. So far 2941 members - all are students attended Daniel's class Daniel is going to have another training session in KL from May 24 to May 26 (2 days theoritical and one day actual live trading during US hours) |
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May 13 2017, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(leongkk @ Apr 14 2017, 03:35 PM) Just happened to bump into this threads. Harlo Leong, I am a student of Adam Khoo since Jun 2016. Can i ask some question here? It is very impressive that you could generate 100% ROI within a year. For my experience in option, i know 5% probability ITM has a very low premium. Even utilizing some of the buying power, the premium doesnt look good too. Can you enlighten me a bit? Or my concept was wrong ?I attended Daniel's class in Jun 2015. And actively trading since. He mainly taught trading of stock options and futures options of US market (S&P 500, gold, crude oil, soy, wheat, corn etc). I lost 60% of my capital after 3 months trading. But since then managed to recoup all losses in 6 months. The strategy was to open (sell) credit spread with 5% probability ITM. Last year was my first full year trading and I managed to achieve 100% win rate of all my trades (too good to be true?) and about 100% annual ROI. I am not boasting. Just to share. BTW, I was totally new to options trading. Zero experience prior to joining the class. We have an active FB closed group for cross learning or ask questions. So far 2941 members - all are students attended Daniel's class Daniel is going to have another training session in KL from May 24 to May 26 (2 days theoritical and one day actual live trading during US hours) |
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May 13 2017, 12:45 PM
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he will just teach u the fundamental of how to trade, broker system and stuff. and some market insight that he only know.
If he have high chance of winning stock why bother spending time for teaching? |
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May 14 2017, 12:37 AM
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the course is rm4850 now
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May 15 2017, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(Jaz11 @ May 13 2017, 12:40 PM) Harlo Leong, I am a student of Adam Khoo since Jun 2016. Can i ask some question here? It is very impressive that you could generate 100% ROI within a year. For my experience in option, i know 5% probability ITM has a very low premium. Even utilizing some of the buying power, the premium doesnt look good too. Can you enlighten me a bit? Or my concept was wrong ? The reason to choose 5% PITM is because it is safe. We only open position (sell) when volatility is high - thus the premium is high. Normally we don't sell naked option. Instead most of the time we open vertical spread or iron condor, with the targeted return of 15% ~ 20% per trade |
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May 15 2017, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(JCI2008 @ May 5 2017, 03:16 PM) I am interested for a crash course on options trading, but cant find any info on Daniel training session in May. Can tell where to find that and who is the organiser? My apology for the mistake in the date. The next available course in KL in June 24~26, instead of May 24~26 as stated in my original post. If you would like to register the course, I can provide you the contacts |
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May 15 2017, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ May 13 2017, 12:45 PM) he will just teach u the fundamental of how to trade, broker system and stuff. and some market insight that he only know. It's fine if you do not believe in this. Honestly, I am also not sure why he would like to run this type of training course. But I do know that he made a lot of money from trading. He showed us his live trading account.If he have high chance of winning stock why bother spending time for teaching? Yes, the 3 days course only teach you the fundamentals. But it is a very practical course for novice guy with no experience. The important point is I managed to make a lot of money from his teaching |
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May 20 2017, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(leongkk @ May 15 2017, 07:01 PM) My apology for the mistake in the date. The next available course in KL in June 24~26, instead of May 24~26 as stated in my original post. If you would like to register the course, I can provide you the contacts That would be good. Can PM me the contacts? |
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May 26 2017, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(leongkk @ Apr 14 2017, 03:35 PM) Just happened to bump into this threads. Hi Leong,I attended Daniel's class in Jun 2015. And actively trading since. He mainly taught trading of stock options and futures options of US market (S&P 500, gold, crude oil, soy, wheat, corn etc). I lost 60% of my capital after 3 months trading. But since then managed to recoup all losses in 6 months. The strategy was to open (sell) credit spread with 5% probability ITM. Last year was my first full year trading and I managed to achieve 100% win rate of all my trades (too good to be true?) and about 100% annual ROI. I am not boasting. Just to share. BTW, I was totally new to options trading. Zero experience prior to joining the class. We have an active FB closed group for cross learning or ask questions. So far 2941 members - all are students attended Daniel's class Daniel is going to have another training session in KL from May 24 to May 26 (2 days theoritical and one day actual live trading during US hours) I recently went to his preview and I am really impressed. But I didn't signed up cause I have been disappointed too many times by so called Guru. May I ask you a few questions? 1) U mentioned you loss 60% of Capital, why is it so? Due to greed and not follow Daniel's blueprint? He did mention just follow his call and conservatively most students will make money. 2) How did you recover from losses? Making big bets or fine tune your strategies? 3) You went into full time trading and achieve Financial Freedom now? 4) Can this seriously be something that is very consistent and achieving constant passive income every month? 5) For those students that made multiple folds in a year just like you, does he or she made it based on Real skills or Lucky bets? Apologies for my long list of question cause I'm really serious in doing this but needs to know more as I have been cheated by many Forex, Stocks guru and Options is my 1st encounter. And seriously his Fees in Singapore is not cheap, it is SGD3800 = RM12,000! Do need your non biased opinion and answers, appreciate it. |
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Aug 3 2017, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(crazeop @ May 26 2017, 11:31 AM) Hi Leong, Can u go Kl and register for his course in MYR? if so u can save alot after minus the travelling expenses and accomodationI recently went to his preview and I am really impressed. But I didn't signed up cause I have been disappointed too many times by so called Guru. May I ask you a few questions? 1) U mentioned you loss 60% of Capital, why is it so? Due to greed and not follow Daniel's blueprint? He did mention just follow his call and conservatively most students will make money. 2) How did you recover from losses? Making big bets or fine tune your strategies? 3) You went into full time trading and achieve Financial Freedom now? 4) Can this seriously be something that is very consistent and achieving constant passive income every month? 5) For those students that made multiple folds in a year just like you, does he or she made it based on Real skills or Lucky bets? Apologies for my long list of question cause I'm really serious in doing this but needs to know more as I have been cheated by many Forex, Stocks guru and Options is my 1st encounter. And seriously his Fees in Singapore is not cheap, it is SGD3800 = RM12,000! Do need your non biased opinion and answers, appreciate it. |
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Aug 4 2017, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(Carbeginner @ Aug 31 2016, 03:27 PM) Hey guys, I have some doubts in my mind, hve you guys come across with this options trading ? Recently I have came across with ths and in order to sign up for his course, I need to pay RM4250 course fee. Anyone of you have attended the course before and do you think that it is worth it to sign up for the course ? thank you. wow ! rm4k thats expensive |
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Aug 9 2017, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(danieln @ Sep 1 2016, 07:44 AM) lol...90%. if that easy would he give you a black & white agreement that it the rate falls below that then he will refund you or bare your loss? 90% chance of winning he win a bit a bit, then that 10% of times he lose he lose all his profits... still considered 90% chance of winning.the highest option signal so far I come across is about 60% - 70% winning rate. if he so good he can be a super fund manager managing millions no need travel around giving expensive courses la. i prefer binary options where i can play as small as usd10 per transaction, at least if loss also not so heart ache and you will know it within a day....LOL |
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Oct 30 2017, 03:02 PM
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I just attended Daniel class recently, I would say his strategy was easy to apply and the 90 - 95% win rate is occurred and calculated by the system. You may make it 99% too if you want but the profit will be very minimal.
Therefore, the course is about RM 4,500 ++ and in my opinion is worthwhile as you may pay by instalment, as well once you get in to the trade with RM 10,000 capital. The monthly course fee will settle by itself. Most people mention options trading may be learn from the internet, books etc. I am one of them who tried to learn myself but it is not that simple without any explanation and end up I took up the course and learn the basics, and the self learning will be much easier later on. For those people who do not know what it is, better don't judge and make comparison with Stock Market in Malaysia. This is totally different as traded in US market with more liquidity. My suggest was to take it as an investment and not to be skeptical about new ideas, if you don't willing to invest in yourself then no one will be able to help. As well, if you expect for free things it definitely wouldn't be good, if you just pay a little it will be a different outcome. If most people are hesitant, continuing to invest in Mutual Funds / Fixed deposit which barely catching up with Inflation every year. |
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Jan 26 2018, 04:20 PM
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Does anyone knows when is the next one in Malaysia? I would like to sign up. Thanks a lot!
Regards, Carol QUOTE(Brandonlow1231 @ Oct 30 2017, 03:02 PM) I just attended Daniel class recently, I would say his strategy was easy to apply and the 90 - 95% win rate is occurred and calculated by the system. You may make it 99% too if you want but the profit will be very minimal. Therefore, the course is about RM 4,500 ++ and in my opinion is worthwhile as you may pay by instalment, as well once you get in to the trade with RM 10,000 capital. The monthly course fee will settle by itself. Most people mention options trading may be learn from the internet, books etc. I am one of them who tried to learn myself but it is not that simple without any explanation and end up I took up the course and learn the basics, and the self learning will be much easier later on. For those people who do not know what it is, better don't judge and make comparison with Stock Market in Malaysia. This is totally different as traded in US market with more liquidity. My suggest was to take it as an investment and not to be skeptical about new ideas, if you don't willing to invest in yourself then no one will be able to help. As well, if you expect for free things it definitely wouldn't be good, if you just pay a little it will be a different outcome. If most people are hesitant, continuing to invest in Mutual Funds / Fixed deposit which barely catching up with Inflation every year. |
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According to statistics, about 70% of small traders loss money. Otherwise, average Joe would have heard success story from guru's students, and the guru would be managing multi billions dollars funds.
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I have attend his class at year 2017 and guess what I get now. My account was burst in 1night and I still owe the booker by 2k usd plus. That was terrible when I saw my 10k account with 2k winning has loss 14k in a night and it just happen in last tue (6 Feb 2018), Im in a very terrible mood now and CNY is coming and I had no mood to celebrate it at all.
Please don't trade as what he mention even though the winning rate was high, as the lost might be more than 100times than your profit. Just imagine you are a 4D owner and someone hit on the 1st price and you gonna pay for it. His method was we become the seller of the option and when trend is opposite of you and you need to pay for it. We place our trade at pitm 5% with faraway from current market price, but the S&P500 are not even drop for 10% and our money all gone. Your trade no need to be ITM as he spoke during preview and you already receive a margin call to top up or they will force close your trade for big loss. And the advise he give was push us die further as the advice trade is all lose. Somehow since end of last year he already push us to hell as most of the trade he advice was wrong, for student which join in end of last year has not even enjoy win trade but already burst. This is win small and loss big game and you will not be able to afford to pay it. FYI I only use 15% of my margin to trade but all gone. Don't you feel curious why the record show during his preview was long time ago result...What is the trading result for those which have a big earn on 2012-2014?? Big question mark as their trade for recent year already not been found. Hope everyone out there which haven't suffer from big loss, please don't risk your money into this. You will only contribute it to build someone account look more nicer and he wont rent you any help when problem arise. This post has been edited by markteo8188: Feb 12 2018, 03:29 PM |
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QUOTE(markteo8188 @ Feb 12 2018, 09:13 AM) I have attend his class at year 2017 and guess what I get now. My account was burst in 1night and I still owe the booker by 2k usd plus. That was terrible when I saw my 10k account with 2k winning has loss 14k in a night and it just happen in last tue (6 Feb 2018), Im in a very terrible mood now and CNY is coming and I had no mood to celebrate it at all. thanks for the heads up.Please don't trade as what DL mention even though the winning rate was high, as the lost might be more than 100times than your profit. Just imagine you are a 4D owner and someone hit on the 1st price and you gonna pay for it. DL method was we become the seller of the option and when trend is opposite of you and you need to pay for it. We place our trade at pitm 5% with faraway from current market price, but the S&P500 are not even drop for 10% and our money all gone. Your trade no need to be ITM as he spoke during preview and you already receive a margin call to top up or they will force close your trade for big loss. And the advise he give was push us die further as the advice trade is all lose. Somehow since end of last year he already push us to hell as most of the trade he advice was wrong, for student which join in end of last year has not even enjoy win trade but already burst. This is win small and loss big game and you will not be able to afford to pay it. FYI I only use 15% of my margin to trade but all gone. Don't you feel curious why the record show during his preview was long time ago result...What is the trading result for those which have a big earn on 2012-2014?? Big question mark as their trade for recent year already not been found. Hope everyone out there which haven't suffer from big loss, please don't risk your money into this. You will only contribute it to build someone account look more nicer and he wont rent you any help when problem arise. did you ask for their track record especially 2012-2014? how much was the course costs you? lastly, sorry for the loss. |
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 12 2018, 10:42 AM) thanks for the heads up. He did showed trade record few year trade record from 2012 onward. But never try never know, you will start regret after you join as there is not much technical analysis and strategy. And after you start trade you will know how high risk it was and just play on luck and pray god so that the trend don't goes again you, and you will know it was not easy as what he told us in the class. There is no ATM in this world will keep let you withdraw money, somemore what was teach is credit spread and 1 day they will force you to return all plus commission.did you ask for their track record especially 2012-2014? how much was the course costs you? lastly, sorry for the loss. Lesson learned : there is no easy money, more homework more safer. cost fees at RM4850 |
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QUOTE(markteo8188 @ Feb 12 2018, 10:40 AM) He did showed trade record few year trade record from 2012 onward. But never try never know, you will start regret after you join as there is not much technical analysis and strategy. And after you start trade you will know how high risk it was and just play on luck and pray god so that the trend don't goes again you, and you will know it was not easy as what he told us in the class. There is no ATM in this world will keep let you withdraw money, somemore what was teach is credit spread and 1 day they will force you to return all plus commission. I've research a bit here and there on his technique, and play it using a papertrade account. seems to me it's really risky. ofcoz you can always play around with risk and return. Although it makes some sense what he is saying, like just make sure the stock price doesn't move away from both your strike price, you get the premium. then they will come up with a statistic stuff saying price movement stay within 1 standard deviation 68% most of the time thingy. But the truth is, there's is no way to predict what the stock price is going to be. eventhough say he win 8 times out of 12 times, im sure that 4 time loss can wipe out all the profit if not your risk capital. Lesson learned : there is no easy money, more homework more safer. cost fees at RM4850 I actually signed up to his course last month out of his sales technique, but also in hope that i learn something. But after reading here and there a bit, i doubt that i can learn much within just 3 days. Feel like want to pull out from his course on march. |
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QUOTE(markteo8188 @ Feb 12 2018, 11:40 AM) He did showed trade record few year trade record from 2012 onward. But never try never know, you will start regret after you join as there is not much technical analysis and strategy. And after you start trade you will know how high risk it was and just play on luck and pray god so that the trend don't goes again you, and you will know it was not easy as what he told us in the class. There is no ATM in this world will keep let you withdraw money, somemore what was teach is credit spread and 1 day they will force you to return all plus commission. what platform u guys use? tdameritrade or ib? to sell so far otm means premium will be super low.. somemore do credit spread really risky but % of return will be higher. Lesson learned : there is no easy money, more homework more safer. cost fees at RM4850 win rate high but one downturn will wipe out years of work. usually the more consistent options trader have about 70% win rate and the account will have a balanced bull/bear positions I myself do options too mainly through tdameritrade, I don't margin to leverage.. sometimes using options itself to leverage. Daniels method will be good during the bull run, but when during uncertainty try not to do too much credit spreads. limit max capital loss at a certain % of portfolio with your options positions. consistency is key. edit: I am not Daniels student, just wanna tell u guys options can work but u need to understand the risks and benefits of doing options, control your emotions well (esp greed), think long term, always limit loss to a certain % of portfolio This post has been edited by ckwkta88: Feb 15 2018, 07:41 PM |
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QUOTE(ckwkta88 @ Feb 15 2018, 07:40 PM) what platform u guys use? tdameritrade or ib? to sell so far otm means premium will be super low.. somemore do credit spread really risky but % of return will be higher. wonder what is your understanding about credit spread? why you think credit spread can't limit max loss?..... Daniels method will be good during the bull run, but when during uncertainty try not to do too much credit spreads. limit max capital loss at a certain % of portfolio with your options positions. consistency is key. |
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QUOTE(Carbeginner @ Aug 31 2016, 03:27 PM) Hey guys, I have some doubts in my mind, hve you guys come across with this options trading ? Recently I have came across with ths and in order to sign up for his course, I need to pay RM4250 course fee. Anyone of you have attended the course before and do you think that it is worth it to sign up for the course ? thank you. Is not worth it to sign up for this course!When u attend his free preview,he will give you a lot of empty promises!But when you attend his option class every things become differently.Just trust me I have been to his class,I don’t want you get cheated! |
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QUOTE(victorrr @ Mar 6 2018, 11:55 PM) Is not worth it to sign up for this course!When u attend his free preview,he will give you a lot of empty promises!But when you attend his option class every things become differently.Just trust me I have been to his class,I don’t want you get cheated! have you also went to those others paid courses? like MIP, sean seah's classes etc. |
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Can check Where and how did u sign up for March course?
Thks! QUOTE(H.K. Lee @ Feb 12 2018, 12:25 PM) I've research a bit here and there on his technique, and play it using a papertrade account. seems to me it's really risky. ofcoz you can always play around with risk and return. Although it makes some sense what he is saying, like just make sure the stock price doesn't move away from both your strike price, you get the premium. then they will come up with a statistic stuff saying price movement stay within 1 standard deviation 68% most of the time thingy. But the truth is, there's is no way to predict what the stock price is going to be. eventhough say he win 8 times out of 12 times, im sure that 4 time loss can wipe out all the profit if not your risk capital. I actually signed up to his course last month out of his sales technique, but also in hope that i learn something. But after reading here and there a bit, i doubt that i can learn much within just 3 days. Feel like want to pull out from his course on march. |
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Do you know when I the next one in Malaysia and who to contact?
QUOTE(leongkk @ May 15 2017, 07:06 PM) It's fine if you do not believe in this. Honestly, I am also not sure why he would like to run this type of training course. But I do know that he made a lot of money from trading. He showed us his live trading account. Yes, the 3 days course only teach you the fundamentals. But it is a very practical course for novice guy with no experience. The important point is I managed to make a lot of money from his teaching |
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QUOTE(leongkk @ May 15 2017, 07:06 PM) It's fine if you do not believe in this. Honestly, I am also not sure why he would like to run this type of training course. But I do know that he made a lot of money from trading. He showed us his live trading account. Is he wearing richard mille and which daytona did you buy?Yes, the 3 days course only teach you the fundamentals. But it is a very practical course for novice guy with no experience. The important point is I managed to make a lot of money from his teaching This post has been edited by icemanfx: Mar 12 2018, 10:57 PM |
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Good day. I am a Singaporean and may I ask anyone here whether it is possible for me to go to KL to attend Daniel Loh's course at RM 4850 instead of Singapore's SGD 3850? Also, is there any differences between the two courses that result in such a huge difference in costs? Many thanks for all your help and contribution to my query. Cheers |
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QUOTE(ImLegend88 @ May 1 2018, 09:26 AM) Hi All, Most probably is due to the venue rental that they charge higher. They can't charge SGD 3850 in Malaysia because that was huge for us.Good day. I am a Singaporean and may I ask anyone here whether it is possible for me to go to KL to attend Daniel Loh's course at RM 4850 instead of Singapore's SGD 3850? Also, is there any differences between the two courses that result in such a huge difference in costs? Many thanks for all your help and contribution to my query. Cheers Therefore you should take into consideration of the currency of the place you are living instead of converting |
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QUOTE(MNet @ Mar 7 2018, 08:18 PM) how abt adam khoo? I attended Daniel and Adam class.I would say Daniel style is much simple to understand and less homework to do as only few products being introduce to play. However, Daniel strategy risk to return ratio was around 5:1( which mean you win $1, when you lose you lose $5). But his strategy has high probability win rate about 90%. It seems to be nice to think 90% means you are not going to lose, when the loser comes will wipe your profit away and even more somedays. Daniel course will make you worry in the night when the losers is coming soon, because you unable to calculate what your losses is for options until it comes so my rough estimation is risking $5 to make $1 For Adam classes, it will be more difficult to understand for beginner as his syllabus contains a lot of theory. He has a good risk to return ratio which is 1:2 (which means when you lose you will lose $1, and when you win you win minimum $2 or more) Which I felt Adam strategy is slightly better as the losers won't wipe you out completely but with his strategy and we are looking at porbablity more than 51%, that's our edge in the market. Example if you enter 10 rounds, you lose 5 and win 5 with the risk return ratio (1:2) overall you are still winning. Adam course will required more homework and many steps to follow before entering a trade, sometimes you will get frustrated that so many step is there and less candidate to choose. Adam classes will make you able to sleep better as before you enter a trade you know how much you will lose. Both courses has it pros & cons This post has been edited by Brandonlow1231: May 8 2018, 09:46 PM |
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Oh My God, i have paid SGD $300 Deposit for the course, because they said the Price $3850 only for that day, they keep talking to me and attract me to join the class, now i just reliase i have go in their trap.
can i get the refund? or just abadon SGD 300... the win rate is 90%, but when lose coming, the lose you are not able to calculate this is very terrible thing, because if win rate 90%, i believe the win amount also very very small, unless u can put very huge capital, if only put 5k USD, i think only win 100, or 200. but if lose maybe will more than 5k right? Haiz, i think invest in Malaysia REIT or Maybank STOCK is better, more safety, eventhough only 5.5% - 6% dividend, but at least can sleep better. |
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QUOTE(thx2012 @ Jul 27 2018, 01:07 AM) Oh My God, i have paid SGD $300 Deposit for the course, because they said the Price $3850 only for that day, they keep talking to me and attract me to join the class, now i just reliase i have go in their trap. just join thiscan i get the refund? or just abadon SGD 300... the win rate is 90%, but when lose coming, the lose you are not able to calculate this is very terrible thing, because if win rate 90%, i believe the win amount also very very small, unless u can put very huge capital, if only put 5k USD, i think only win 100, or 200. but if lose maybe will more than 5k right? Haiz, i think invest in Malaysia REIT or Maybank STOCK is better, more safety, eventhough only 5.5% - 6% dividend, but at least can sleep better. https://www.facebook.com/groups/UltimateOption/ free learn option |
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After reading some book, I would say these investment course that you attend can be learn from reading. Of course you need some trial and error to do it and of course having a mentor is better than none. But from the payment of these courses that cost you thousands (which I think is kinda hefty) you might as well try your own and learn from trial and error.
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QUOTE(andrewcha @ Aug 10 2018, 10:26 PM) After reading some book, I would say these investment course that you attend can be learn from reading. Of course you need some trial and error to do it and of course having a mentor is better than none. But from the payment of these courses that cost you thousands (which I think is kinda hefty) you might as well try your own and learn from trial and error. Which book ? Where to buy ?Thats the culture of Msia, ppl hardly reads. |
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QUOTE(thx2012 @ Aug 14 2018, 09:03 PM) Which book ? Where to buy ? Just your local popular bookstore. Go pay a visit and just grab 1 or 2 book that caught your attention and read away. Not only you're making a habit to read, you're also supporting the dying book industries. More bookstore are closing down.When I say read away = BUY that book and read. Not sitting there for 10 hours read the whole book. Can keep receipt to claim back income tax refund. |
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re: Which one is best? Terence Tan, or Ken Teng, or Daniel Loh, or others
Any Daniel Loh course graduates, can share a feedback on his course, and how has your trading been using his teachings? I am currently digging for feedbacks, trying to decide which Options Trading course should I enrol in. I will definitely enrol, and them having similar prices here in Singapore, I am just deciding which one to choose. Graduates please comment and share your feedback. If you are a graduate of Terence Tan, or Ken Teng, or other Options Trading courses, please please please comment to on how your trading did when following their teachings. |
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QUOTE(JonRobin @ Sep 23 2018, 05:09 PM) re: Which one is best? Terence Tan, or Ken Teng, or Daniel Loh, or others check this first before join any classAny Daniel Loh course graduates, can share a feedback on his course, and how has your trading been using his teachings? I am currently digging for feedbacks, trying to decide which Options Trading course should I enrol in. I will definitely enrol, and them having similar prices here in Singapore, I am just deciding which one to choose. Graduates please comment and share your feedback. If you are a graduate of Terence Tan, or Ken Teng, or other Options Trading courses, please please please comment to on how your trading did when following their teachings. https://www.drwealth.com/how-i-blew-up-1050...rading-account/ |
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QUOTE(aiklee10 @ Sep 25 2018, 11:33 AM) Thanks. No options trading course feedback yet on that site. |
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QUOTE(markteo8188 @ Feb 12 2018, 09:13 AM) I have attend his class at year 2017 and guess what I get now. My account was burst in 1night and I still owe the booker by 2k usd plus. That was terrible when I saw my 10k account with 2k winning has loss 14k in a night and it just happen in last tue (6 Feb 2018), Im in a very terrible mood now and CNY is coming and I had no mood to celebrate it at all. Hi,Please don't trade as what he mention even though the winning rate was high, as the lost might be more than 100times than your profit. Just imagine you are a 4D owner and someone hit on the 1st price and you gonna pay for it. His method was we become the seller of the option and when trend is opposite of you and you need to pay for it. We place our trade at pitm 5% with faraway from current market price, but the S&P500 are not even drop for 10% and our money all gone. Your trade no need to be ITM as he spoke during preview and you already receive a margin call to top up or they will force close your trade for big loss. And the advise he give was push us die further as the advice trade is all lose. Somehow since end of last year he already push us to hell as most of the trade he advice was wrong, for student which join in end of last year has not even enjoy win trade but already burst. This is win small and loss big game and you will not be able to afford to pay it. FYI I only use 15% of my margin to trade but all gone. Don't you feel curious why the record show during his preview was long time ago result...What is the trading result for those which have a big earn on 2012-2014?? Big question mark as their trade for recent year already not been found. Hope everyone out there which haven't suffer from big loss, please don't risk your money into this. You will only contribute it to build someone account look more nicer and he wont rent you any help when problem arise. May I know what option trading platform Daniel Loh using? You open the option trading account during the class? Thanks, |
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QUOTE(markteo8188 @ Feb 12 2018, 09:13 AM) I have attend his class at year 2017 and guess what I get now. My account was burst in 1night and I still owe the booker by 2k usd plus. That was terrible when I saw my 10k account with 2k winning has loss 14k in a night and it just happen in last tue (6 Feb 2018), Im in a very terrible mood now and CNY is coming and I had no mood to celebrate it at all. Thanks.Please don't trade as what he mention even though the winning rate was high, as the lost might be more than 100times than your profit. Just imagine you are a 4D owner and someone hit on the 1st price and you gonna pay for it. His method was we become the seller of the option and when trend is opposite of you and you need to pay for it. We place our trade at pitm 5% with faraway from current market price, but the S&P500 are not even drop for 10% and our money all gone. Your trade no need to be ITM as he spoke during preview and you already receive a margin call to top up or they will force close your trade for big loss. And the advise he give was push us die further as the advice trade is all lose. Somehow since end of last year he already push us to hell as most of the trade he advice was wrong, for student which join in end of last year has not even enjoy win trade but already burst. This is win small and loss big game and you will not be able to afford to pay it. FYI I only use 15% of my margin to trade but all gone. Don't you feel curious why the record show during his preview was long time ago result...What is the trading result for those which have a big earn on 2012-2014?? Big question mark as their trade for recent year already not been found. Hope everyone out there which haven't suffer from big loss, please don't risk your money into this. You will only contribute it to build someone account look more nicer and he wont rent you any help when problem arise. Most courses also emphasize money management. You seem to have exposed too much, putting you at the mercy of small swings causing margin calls. Did you follow, if any, the risk/money management taught in the course? Or the course actually recommended that it is safe to 'gamble' that way? |
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QUOTE(JonRobin @ Oct 15 2018, 06:18 PM) Thanks. sound to me he was over trade + not experience in repair Most courses also emphasize money management. You seem to have exposed too much, putting you at the mercy of small swings causing margin calls. Did you follow, if any, the risk/money management taught in the course? Or the course actually recommended that it is safe to 'gamble' that way? |
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QUOTE(y2k_neo18 @ Oct 15 2018, 06:01 PM) Hi, think or swim. you need to open the account before the class.May I know what option trading platform Daniel Loh using? You open the option trading account during the class? Thanks, |
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can I enquire how did Daniel and Adam class advising you to play the market currently?
QUOTE(Brandonlow1231 @ May 8 2018, 09:43 PM) I attended Daniel and Adam class. I would say Daniel style is much simple to understand and less homework to do as only few products being introduce to play. However, Daniel strategy risk to return ratio was around 5:1( which mean you win $1, when you lose you lose $5). But his strategy has high probability win rate about 90%. It seems to be nice to think 90% means you are not going to lose, when the loser comes will wipe your profit away and even more somedays. Daniel course will make you worry in the night when the losers is coming soon, because you unable to calculate what your losses is for options until it comes so my rough estimation is risking $5 to make $1 For Adam classes, it will be more difficult to understand for beginner as his syllabus contains a lot of theory. He has a good risk to return ratio which is 1:2 (which means when you lose you will lose $1, and when you win you win minimum $2 or more) Which I felt Adam strategy is slightly better as the losers won't wipe you out completely but with his strategy and we are looking at porbablity more than 51%, that's our edge in the market. Example if you enter 10 rounds, you lose 5 and win 5 with the risk return ratio (1:2) overall you are still winning. Adam course will required more homework and many steps to follow before entering a trade, sometimes you will get frustrated that so many step is there and less candidate to choose. Adam classes will make you able to sleep better as before you enter a trade you know how much you will lose. Both courses has it pros & cons |
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if you are prepared to lose your entire premium on an option trade, feel free to trade it
best is to buy before their earnings announcement and of course don't buy those nobody trading type of shares QUOTE(JonRobin @ Sep 23 2018, 05:09 PM) re: Which one is best? Terence Tan, or Ken Teng, or Daniel Loh, or others Any Daniel Loh course graduates, can share a feedback on his course, and how has your trading been using his teachings? I am currently digging for feedbacks, trying to decide which Options Trading course should I enrol in. I will definitely enrol, and them having similar prices here in Singapore, I am just deciding which one to choose. Graduates please comment and share your feedback. If you are a graduate of Terence Tan, or Ken Teng, or other Options Trading courses, please please please comment to on how your trading did when following their teachings. |
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Oct 17 2018, 10:21 AM
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The fact that very few graduates give a positive feedback, is very worrying.
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Oct 17 2018, 11:59 AM
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can pls provide an example how it works in real life? thanks
https://www.facebook.com/groups/UltimateOption/ RULES: - 30 day free trial, after that will be $30 for every 3 month QUOTE(leongkk @ May 15 2017, 06:59 PM) The reason to choose 5% PITM is because it is safe. We only open position (sell) when volatility is high - thus the premium is high. Normally we don't sell naked option. Instead most of the time we open vertical spread or iron condor, with the targeted return of 15% ~ 20% per trade |
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Oct 17 2018, 12:03 PM
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heard that 'He mainly taught trading of stock options and futures options of US market (S&P 500, gold, crude oil, soy, wheat, corn etc). I lost 60% of my capital after 3 months trading. But since then managed to recoup all losses in 6 months. The strategy was to open (sell) credit spread with 5% probability ITM'
any sample of trade to share for current market conditions? how does it works QUOTE(markteo8188 @ Feb 12 2018, 09:13 AM) I have attend his class at year 2017 and guess what I get now. My account was burst in 1night and I still owe the booker by 2k usd plus. That was terrible when I saw my 10k account with 2k winning has loss 14k in a night and it just happen in last tue (6 Feb 2018), Im in a very terrible mood now and CNY is coming and I had no mood to celebrate it at all. Please don't trade as what he mention even though the winning rate was high, as the lost might be more than 100times than your profit. Just imagine you are a 4D owner and someone hit on the 1st price and you gonna pay for it. His method was we become the seller of the option and when trend is opposite of you and you need to pay for it. We place our trade at pitm 5% with faraway from current market price, but the S&P500 are not even drop for 10% and our money all gone. Your trade no need to be ITM as he spoke during preview and you already receive a margin call to top up or they will force close your trade for big loss. And the advise he give was push us die further as the advice trade is all lose. Somehow since end of last year he already push us to hell as most of the trade he advice was wrong, for student which join in end of last year has not even enjoy win trade but already burst. This is win small and loss big game and you will not be able to afford to pay it. FYI I only use 15% of my margin to trade but all gone. Don't you feel curious why the record show during his preview was long time ago result...What is the trading result for those which have a big earn on 2012-2014?? Big question mark as their trade for recent year already not been found. Hope everyone out there which haven't suffer from big loss, please don't risk your money into this. You will only contribute it to build someone account look more nicer and he wont rent you any help when problem arise. |
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Oct 17 2018, 04:53 PM
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https://www.investors.com/market-trend/the-...asdaq-bull-run/ DAVID SAITO-CHUNG 10/03/2018 Small Caps, Oil Stocks Pace Upside; Why 8 Nasdaq 'Sell-Offs' Haven't Stopped The Bull Run PAUL WHITFIELD 10/04/2018 Bears Slam Bulls For Worst Beating In Three Months PAUL WHITFIELD 10/05/2018 Big Picture: Technical Warnings, Stock Losses Unnerve The Bulls JUAN CARLOS ARANCIBIA 10/08/2018 Stocks Bounce, But These Factors Weigh On Hopes For A Bottom DAVID SAITO-CHUNG 10/09/2018 Small Caps, Growth Stocks Slump Again As These Sectors Flex More Strength PAUL WHITFIELD 10/10/2018 Bears Rip Stocks As Market Shifts To Correction KEN SHREVE 10/11/2018 Dow, S&P 500 Pierce 200-Day Lines As Bears Rule Roost Again KEN SHREVE 10/15/2018 Sellers Come Into Market Late As Former Leaders Take More Heat JUAN CARLOS ARANCIBIA 5:38 PM ET Dow Jones Soars 547 Points; Did Stocks Make A Bottoming Signal? 
https://www.investors.com/market-trend/stoc...amazon-csx-lam/ ED CARSON11:24 PM ET Dow Jones futures fell slightly late Tuesday, S&P 500 futures edged higher, while Nasdaq futures jumped. Netflix (NFLX) soared late on strong subscriber growth. Fellow FANG stocks Amazon.com (AMZN), Facebook (FB) and Google parent Alphabet (GOOGL) also climbed late. Stock Market Awaits Follow-Through Day In Tuesday's stock market trading, the Dow Jones vaulted 2.2%, the S&P 500 2.15% and the Nasdaq composite 2.9%, with many top stocks reclaiming key support levels. The still-new stock market correction isn't over, but the nascent rally is promising. Another strong gain in higher volume on one more of the major market averages would signal a follow-through day to confirm a new market uptrend. That could happen as soon as Wednesday. Keep in mind that confirmed rallies don't always work, but uptrends without confirmation almost never do. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Oct 27 2018, 07:26 PM
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May i know, what is trading account used by Danial low's Student.
I need to open demat account same as there student is using. please help |
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Oct 29 2018, 09:31 PM
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I am speaking as a former student of Daniel's class. Honestly speaking, there was a time i stopped trading his options method bcos I feel return is a bit low for me and less exciting.
I started off with a 4 figure capital, can only make somewhere around US200-300 per month, which comes up to around 4-7% per month. Did it for 2 years. But in options selling, it depends on market conditions like volatility. I do have losses. This year Feb I suffered some paper losses. But i manage to salvage the trade because of repairs which is taught in class. This year i attended a forex trading class. Attracted by the good returns i started trading forex and abandoned trading options. At the start the returns is tremendous. I can make almost 10-15% return in one month. But sadly last month I burst my Forex account. I guess there is no best way to attend such investment classes. Either you want a consistent more boring options strategies, or the more exciting but risky Forex trading methods. Of course i am not giving up in Forex yet. Hope to give myself one more chance to try... This post has been edited by Bentley Yap: Oct 29 2018, 09:59 PM |
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Oct 29 2018, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 29 2018, 09:31 PM) ..... which comes up to around 4-7% per month. Did it for 2 years...... Thank you very much for sharing! I appreciate it greatly!You did average 4% monthly profit for 2 years? 4% monthly is about 50% annually. 50% is huge. Not even mutual funds can give that consistently. |
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Oct 29 2018, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(apathen @ Oct 16 2018, 11:29 PM) sound to me he was over trade + not experience in repair I agreed with apathen. There are a lot of Daniel students that overtrade. I saw it every week when they put their positions in the facebook group. Options trading is not like stock where you can whack everything in one stock. Even for stock investment to be successful, we need to diversify and risk only 5% of capital per stock we invest. Repair is important in market crashes. A lot of options courses teach strategies, but not many teach repairs. Only when we master repair methods, then we can be consistent. Try to go for options classes that teach repairs |
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Oct 29 2018, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(JonRobin @ Oct 29 2018, 10:39 PM) Thank you very much for sharing! I appreciate it greatly! Ha. the problem is my forex trading is 10-15% per month at the start You did average 4% monthly profit for 2 years? 4% monthly is about 50% annually. 50% is huge. Not even mutual funds can give that consistently.  Bcos i am trading full time and out of job for a while, so i need more income. Really hope to have a strategy that can make more than options trading |
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Oct 29 2018, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 29 2018, 09:56 PM) ..... so i need more income. ..... I think if you are making 4% monthly on the average, on options trading, that is your chicken that can lay golden egg - the solution to many people's problem.There is just one thing you need, which is typical in investing - capital. You are not satisfied 4% monthly return, because your capital is small. Just keep trying to get a job, and increase your capital. Nowhere on the planet can you get such huge returns easily. Not even in real estate investing. Forex (which you most likely are using with leverage), is almost always gambling. While you can gain 4% in options trading, you can gain NEGATIVE 100% in forex. Options trading would be better. May I know how many hours do you spend, to achieve that average of 4% monthly on options trading? How many daily and in total, how many hours per month, if you dont mind? |
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QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 29 2018, 09:53 PM) ..... I saw it every week when they put their positions in the facebook group..... Is that 'facebook group' a "closed" group for graduates?QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 29 2018, 09:53 PM) .....Try to go for options classes that teach repairs.... May I know if the Daniel Loh course you attended do teach repairs?Terence Tan course highlighted repair a lot during his free preview. I believe the Ken Teng course also did mentioned repair in his free preview. |
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Oct 29 2018, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(JonRobin @ Oct 29 2018, 11:03 PM) I think if you are making 4% monthly on the average, on options trading, that is your chicken that can lay golden egg - the solution to many people's problem. After bursting my account in Forex, I kinda agreed. Leverage is a double edged sword. But I still trying to see if i can daytrade forex for a living.There is just one thing you need, which is typical in investing - capital. You are not satisfied 4% monthly return, because your capital is small. Just keep trying to get a job, and increase your capital. Nowhere on the planet can you get such huge returns easily. Not even in real estate investing. Forex (which you most likely are using with leverage), is almost always gambling. While you can gain 4% in options trading, you can gain NEGATIVE 100% in forex. Options trading would be better. May I know how many hours do you spend, to achieve that average of 4% monthly on options trading? How many daily and in total, how many hours per month, if you dont mind? Anyway for options trading, it is really boring, unless there is a major stock crash like in Feb or like 2 weeks ago in Oct. What i do is place my options position every month. Once you are familiar, it takes like 5 minutes to open position. Then I will check everyday for 5-10 minutes to see if need to repair and manage my options trade. Most of the days i do nothing. When i get started last year, I simply can't believe the time spent. That is why i try to learn Forex too. Options trading is boring unless there is a sudden movement like a crash. Then i probably need to stay up until i do my repairs. I tried doing repair early. Less worry. In one year, there probably is 1 to 2 such events that needs my special attention. In fact i agreed with you that 4% is a good return, if my account is larger. I am satisfied with the returns, just not the amount. This post has been edited by Bentley Yap: Oct 29 2018, 10:36 PM |
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Oct 29 2018, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(JonRobin @ Oct 29 2018, 11:11 PM) Is that 'facebook group' a "closed" group for graduates? Yes I would say when it comes to options trading, repair is the most important thing. May I know if the Daniel Loh course you attended do teach repairs? Terence Tan course highlighted repair a lot during his free preview. I believe the Ken Teng course also did mentioned repair in his free preview. I do understand from some friends that Terence Tan teach how to trade options weekly by selling options on stocks. From my experience, it is pretty risky. Bcos when stocks gap down, there is no chance to repair but to take the losses on weekly options. Ken Teng is a student of Sean Seah. Do not know whether he teach the same trading method. Sean Seah's method is to sell naked put option on stock. That needs a lot of capital. Buying a stock like Apple today cost US$22000 per lot. Big capital needed just to start trading this method. Overall, selling options does give high chance of winning. Most importantly is not to overtrade and learn repairing. |
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Oct 30 2018, 02:28 AM
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Came across this post and I would like to share my 2 cents.
I have been an options trader since 2015 and I come from a background of 0 knowledge on Options & US stock market. Paying a course fee of few thousands may sound absurd considering you have free access to plenty of online resources for free or by buying books. But here is the difference, even when you buy books & read it, you only gain theoretically knowledge. You still have to do alot of research online or books to further expand your horizons. Bear in mind there is no one there to guide you on this journey. Imagine a whole lot of time used up for this tasks prior to trading itself. On the other hand by paying a course fee (which usually includes hiring a mentor), you are able learn the background & understand the concept during the course itself. What's more, usually the trainer (or mentor) shares his trade secrets/formula based on his past experiences (failures & success). Moreover, the mentor is suppose to guide you based on his option trading methodology. So in the end, you are not wasting $$$. You are paying to get a potential life mentor, a proven trading methodology, a deep understanding on options trading, etc. Think of it as paying for your degree while you were at university (just that there is no certifications this time). Have you ever seen any famous athletes without any mentors? If you want to be good at what you at, hire a mentor. As for me, I joined the IMP Course by Terrence Tan (A singaporean trader & mentor) & I paid SGD 3k for it. I was able to earn all the course fee within 8 months & have continuously gain profits till now. Even during the recent market. This is all due to Terrence (my mentor's) trading methodology in stock picking & Risk management strategies. There is a growing community in SG, MY, Vietnam and Thailand following his methodology. And what is most important is he is providing life-long mentor-ship. Some may think that RM4k is expensive for a course. But no one ever questions how expensive is tertiary education is. Food for thought  Disclaimer : I am not promoting any courses here, but just sharing my thoughts. |
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Oct 30 2018, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 29 2018, 11:31 PM) Yes I would say when it comes to options trading, repair is the most important thing. Thank you for sharing all the info. This is helpful especially to those considering to enrol, like me.I do understand from some friends that Terence Tan teach how to trade options weekly by selling options on stocks. From my experience, it is pretty risky. Bcos when stocks gap down, there is no chance to repair but to take the losses on weekly options. Ken Teng is a student of Sean Seah. Do not know whether he teach the same trading method. Sean Seah's method is to sell naked put option on stock. That needs a lot of capital. Buying a stock like Apple today cost US$22000 per lot. Big capital needed just to start trading this method. Overall, selling options does give high chance of winning. Most importantly is not to overtrade and learn repairing. You mentioned "boring" except during crash. During crash, how long (likes hours/minutes, and how many days) you need to do your actions (like repairs, etc.)? I also got addicted to forex. Used mt4 robots, indicators, and also coded my own indicators and robots. 2 years time money effort wasted. I concluded to myself: forex is gambling. |
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QUOTE(elvenchou1987 @ Oct 30 2018, 02:28 AM) Came across this post and I would like to share my 2 cents. Tnx for reposting. Informative.I have been an options trader since 2015 and I come from a background of 0 knowledge on Options & US stock market. Paying a course fee of few thousands may sound absurd considering you have free access to plenty of online resources for free or by buying books. But here is the difference, even when you buy books & read it, you only gain theoretically knowledge. You still have to do alot of research online or books to further expand your horizons. Bear in mind there is no one there to guide you on this journey. Imagine a whole lot of time used up for this tasks prior to trading itself. On the other hand by paying a course fee (which usually includes hiring a mentor), you are able learn the background & understand the concept during the course itself. What's more, usually the trainer (or mentor) shares his trade secrets/formula based on his past experiences (failures & success). Moreover, the mentor is suppose to guide you based on his option trading methodology. So in the end, you are not wasting $$$. You are paying to get a potential life mentor, a proven trading methodology, a deep understanding on options trading, etc. Think of it as paying for your degree while you were at university (just that there is no certifications this time). Have you ever seen any famous athletes without any mentors? If you want to be good at what you at, hire a mentor. As for me, I joined the IMP Course by Terrence Tan (A singaporean trader & mentor) & I paid SGD 3k for it. I was able to earn all the course fee within 8 months & have continuously gain profits till now. Even during the recent market. This is all due to Terrence (my mentor's) trading methodology in stock picking & Risk management strategies. There is a growing community in SG, MY, Vietnam and Thailand following his methodology. And what is most important is he is providing life-long mentor-ship. Some may think that RM4k is expensive for a course. But no one ever questions how expensive is tertiary education is. Food for thought Disclaimer : I am not promoting any courses here, but just sharing my thoughts. If i will trade 200k, i wont mind 3k. Thats how i convince myself. Also profit potential. And disadvantage if i dont. Risk, yes, as we dont know if it works. Thats the hard part when deciding to enrol or not. Feedback by graduates helps a lot. |
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Oct 30 2018, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(JonRobin @ Oct 30 2018, 02:19 PM) Thank you for sharing all the info. This is helpful especially to those considering to enrol, like me. In Daniel's Class, he focused a lot on repairs. I would say 70% of his syllabus is on repairs, to let us understand how to react to different situations. You mentioned "boring" except during crash. During crash, how long (likes hours/minutes, and how many days) you need to do your actions (like repairs, etc.)? I also got addicted to forex. Used mt4 robots, indicators, and also coded my own indicators and robots. 2 years time money effort wasted. I concluded to myself: forex is gambling. From my experience, I take around 20 minutes to try to get everything done. Of course in a crash, i would just take the market price. Then it will be filled instantly. After repair, i normally tried not to pay attention to market news as it will affect our emotions. I do agreed that Forex is risky, hence a stop loss is a MUST. With Options, I don't need one. Just monitor and manage my positions 5 mins a day. |
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Oct 30 2018, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 30 2018, 03:35 PM) In Daniel's Class, he focused a lot on repairs. I would say 70% of his syllabus is on repairs, to let us understand how to react to different situations. Please advise, where to open the account for trading in options, I have attended Danial's seminar and he shown his live account from selection of S&P index, Turkey index, Crude oil and etc..From my experience, I take around 20 minutes to try to get everything done. Of course in a crash, i would just take the market price. Then it will be filled instantly. After repair, i normally tried not to pay attention to market news as it will affect our emotions. I do agreed that Forex is risky, hence a stop loss is a MUST. With Options, I don't need one. Just monitor and manage my positions 5 mins a day. I would like to know, what is that account name, how to open the trade account for trading in options. Kindly advise.. Thanks in advance. |
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Oct 31 2018, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(sdpadhiyar @ Oct 30 2018, 11:40 PM) Please advise, where to open the account for trading in options, I have attended Danial's seminar and he shown his live account from selection of S&P index, Turkey index, Crude oil and etc.. Which broker? In singapore, try tdameritrade.I would like to know, what is that account name, how to open the trade account for trading in options. Kindly advise.. Thanks in advance. But really success on it wouldnt matter much on which broker you choose. But tdameritrade (also known as tos / think or swim) has nice software and the info in it. |
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Nov 4 2018, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 30 2018, 03:35 PM) In Daniel's Class, he focused a lot on repairs. I would say 70% of his syllabus is on repairs, to let us understand how to react to different situations. Hi Bentley,From my experience, I take around 20 minutes to try to get everything done. Of course in a crash, i would just take the market price. Then it will be filled instantly. After repair, i normally tried not to pay attention to market news as it will affect our emotions. I do agreed that Forex is risky, hence a stop loss is a MUST. With Options, I don't need one. Just monitor and manage my positions 5 mins a day. Thanks. Hi Bentley and graduates of options courses (daniel loh, terence tan, ken teng, etc.), I was googling and studying options online and saw this US online club OptionsAnimal. It is quite expensive at around 6k US$. It is a an on-demand lifetime online course (complete course, including topics for total beginners), where you can review anytime anywhere you want. I saw that they have some potentially very very helpful content on how to do the trades from start to end (including and especially REPAIR/ROLLING/ADJUSTMENT), by sharing a flowchart that shows actions that can be done based on each investment (option strategy ) type and market situation. Example, trading a xxxx type of spread, then things go against your position, and the flowchart shows arrows and decision points on what choices you can do, or what actions you can do next. This is sort of (after learning the required knowledge and terminologies), a help on making the process a no-brainer and a good memory guide. My question is. Does Daniel Loh's course (or graduates here of other instructors, please answer also), provide such good (visual) flowchart ('map' or 'guide') on choices of actions, per investment type, and per market changes. Like a flow below.  This post has been edited by JonRobin: Nov 4 2018, 02:41 PM |
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QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 30 2018, 03:35 PM) In Daniel's Class, he focused a lot on repairs. I would say 70% of his syllabus is on repairs, to let us understand how to react to different situations. Very reassuring to hear Bentley’s feedback and yes it’s allFrom my experience, I take around 20 minutes to try to get everything done. Of course in a crash, i would just take the market price. Then it will be filled instantly. After repair, i normally tried not to pay attention to market news as it will affect our emotions. I do agreed that Forex is risky, hence a stop loss is a MUST. With Options, I don't need one. Just monitor and manage my positions 5 mins a day. About emotional management and you can’t be greedy. Daniel emphasizes consistency at 5% return every month and this will compound to big numbers later on. I am planning to attend his class. |
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Nov 13 2018, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(sdpadhiyar @ Oct 30 2018, 11:40 PM) Please advise, where to open the account for trading in options, I have attended Danial's seminar and he shown his live account from selection of S&P index, Turkey index, Crude oil and etc.. https://www.tdameritrade.com.sg/tdaa/index.htmlI would like to know, what is that account name, how to open the trade account for trading in options. Kindly advise.. Thanks in advance. |
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Nov 13 2018, 03:13 PM
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U know seminar opening is a trend right? As long as someone got knowledge they open and charge you a fees. If you think 100% confident u can earn from investment after the tallk then go lor.
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Nov 14 2018, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 30 2018, 03:35 PM) In Daniel's Class, he focused a lot on repairs. I would say 70% of his syllabus is on repairs, to let us understand how to react to different situations. bro, please share how did you repair on cl recently if u have bps?From my experience, I take around 20 minutes to try to get everything done. Of course in a crash, i would just take the market price. Then it will be filled instantly. After repair, i normally tried not to pay attention to market news as it will affect our emotions. I do agreed that Forex is risky, hence a stop loss is a MUST. With Options, I don't need one. Just monitor and manage my positions 5 mins a day. double lot downside or roll to bcs? hope and pray strategy or crs? https://www.tradingview.com/x/dlp8IE7h/ This post has been edited by aiklee10: Nov 14 2018, 09:41 AM |
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Any seminar is full of crap to me. None excites me, they can talk bout mentor and being a guru, but when u needed help, wont hear frm them. If u want to be good, u gotta do it yrself.
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Nov 19 2018, 08:11 AM
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Nov 19 2018, 08:13 AM
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Nov 19 2018, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(aiklee10 @ Nov 19 2018, 08:11 AM) Lesson.1.No one cares about your money more than you. Learn how to do it and do it yourself. Dont give to nobody to let him trade your money. The only reason why the hedge fund traders did that, traded without protection, is because it is not their money. They will never trade like that with their own money. 2.never naked short option.always hedge or limit damage from moment u enter. This post has been edited by JonRobin: Nov 19 2018, 11:17 AM |
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Nov 22 2018, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(JonRobin @ Nov 19 2018, 08:38 AM) Lesson. the guru has 19 year experience in the industry , end up go burst 1.No one cares about your money more than you. Learn how to do it and do it yourself. Dont give to nobody to let him trade your money. The only reason why the hedge fund traders did that, traded without protection, is because it is not their money. They will never trade like that with their own money. 2.never naked short option.always hedge or limit damage from moment u enter. |
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QUOTE(danieln @ Aug 31 2016, 03:38 PM) lol... pay him to attend then if in the end you still dunno how to trade how? got refund? how to?I just subscribed to signal provider and have the trading automated. spend less and so far having good results |
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lol those option classes are very basic.
unfortunately in malaysia its only warrant, not options. u need to use US brokers to trade options. i dont think malaysian broker that offer overseas trading got extensive options trading available also. not to mention u need to be familiar with the greeks, different strategies/hedging method, underlying stock liquidity, movement style, and then suit with your style. sometimes when the market open the volatility surge causing premium to go up which cause u blow up. your timing, psychology also plays big role. if u like day trading u need $25k by law. too many too list more but attending $4k class wont do the trick. i dunno also why some guys above relate options with forex. its totally different asset class. true story. This post has been edited by old_and_slow: Nov 24 2018, 09:55 AM |
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how about kathlyn toh?
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May 24 2019, 05:23 PM
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Hi.
Anyone know when is Daniel Loh conducting his next option class in Msia? Am keen to attend. Thank you. |
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Nov 11 2019, 02:27 AM
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I.m one of the study of DL.
and I had finished taking 3 level of his class in Singapore. Means PIS, Day trading and Elite Club. I paid in SGD for PIS class is around SGD 4K, so RM 4K is very cheap already. I will suggest taking his PIS class, eventhongh I still don't know how to 1 year earn USD 60K when have 10K USD, and also don't know how to earn USD 200K using USD 30K or 60K. But so far after 1 year attanding for his PIS class, I get every month at least 1% of my money. but when the pre-class before joining, is told people 5% to 10% I'm not sure it is because I only using in Futures option only not in stock option market or what.... but better then keep money in the bank. 1 year max around 6% (ok lar it's more safe). if you got time then you really may learn from book or youtube. but with si fu teach, is more easy to understand and u can ask what you dont' understand. 2 day + 2 night class can learn most of the basic. at least can more understanding what youtube teach. and you can go class again no problem, just let them know. Like my english is very poor, I need to attand in chinese, much more easy for me to absorb... Like someone said, the more you paid the more you can focus. Free things maybe also very useful, but maybe not able to focus and learn. Not very useful thing is repair when having issue. Just cut lost already ok... if not will lose comission For Day trading class, i think the useful thing is the CRS system, how ever, i belived it is similary like Pivot. If interest and take the course, please training in demo account 1st. I had burn my account in day traing. But it is due of didn't put stop loss. For Elite Club, i think not worth it when you only got small account which below USD 20K. This post has been edited by tattatheng: Nov 11 2019, 02:28 AM |
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Mar 2 2020, 10:53 AM
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31 posts Joined: Oct 2005 From: kl
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how was the profit for BPS this week, do you have good month on FEB?
or nightmare & sleepless? |
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 Oct 25 2020, 06:09 PM
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2 posts Joined: Oct 2020
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It's bull pull spread on index or other assets. For those interested, can go youtube and learn for free.
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Oct 25 2020, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(HaloWorld @ Oct 25 2020, 06:09 PM) It's bull put spread on index or other assets. For those interested, can go youtube and learn for free. |
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Oct 25 2020, 09:09 PM
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95 posts Joined: Sep 2020 From: Kuala Lumpur
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Is there a good course to learn about options trading strategies?
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Nov 28 2021, 11:15 AM
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Probation
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Nov 28 2021, 11:20 AM
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3 posts Joined: Nov 2021
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On Friday, 26 November 2021, I and HUNDREDS of other Daniel Loh students who sell Bull Put Spread as he taught died! Daniel Loh is fraud and scammer! We sell Bull Put Spreads as taught 5% pitm. Futures move down over $10 in one day! Repair no time to do! Some repair also burst faster!
Sell using only 15% margins died! Only 1 day account burst! Avoid this cheater. |
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Nov 28 2021, 11:23 AM
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3 posts Joined: Nov 2021
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QUOTE(Bentley Yap @ Oct 30 2018, 03:35 PM) In Daniel's Class, he focused a lot on repairs. I would say 70% of his syllabus is on repairs, to let us understand how to react to different situations. Bentley Yap, how your Crude Oil BPS now??? Burst yet???From my experience, I take around 20 minutes to try to get everything done. Of course in a crash, i would just take the market price. Then it will be filled instantly. After repair, i normally tried not to pay attention to market news as it will affect our emotions. I do agreed that Forex is risky, hence a stop loss is a MUST. With Options, I don't need one. Just monitor and manage my positions 5 mins a day. |
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Nov 28 2021, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(Danielisfraud @ Nov 28 2021, 11:20 AM) On Friday, 26 November 2021, I and HUNDREDS of other Daniel Loh students who sell Bull Put Spread as he taught died! Daniel Loh is fraud and scammer! We sell Bull Put Spreads as taught 5% pitm. Futures move down over $10 in one day! Repair no time to do! Some repair also burst faster! Many guru also blind gambler and as confused as the students. Better become rubber tapper.Sell using only 15% margins died! Only 1 day account burst! Avoid this cheater. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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