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nicotine
post Jan 29 2016, 01:54 PM

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Hi all,
i'm keen to start a small scale aquaculture poc, just wondering if i'm required a licence for it.

I'm planning to build a RAS system for jade perch with two 5000 liter tank. I would like to know the max stocking density which I could stock without causing significant stunt issue.

Not much info on google, most source say stocking density about max 40pcs per meter cube based on aquaphonics guys. Appriciate If anyone here could share some thought on this.

I'm planning to stock 500 per tank or 100 fish per meter cube.Turn over rate will be 3x or 15000L per hour per tank. Is it sufficient ?


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post Jan 29 2016, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Jan 29 2016, 03:21 PM)
Where you get the quotation of the RAS system? How big it will be for your 5000 litre water tank? For perch, as far as I read shows 40-50kg per cubic metre. With the perch can grows up to 800g (7 months), you can raise up to 300 fish at one time.

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I'll be building the system myself, Tank will be 10ft in diameter, 4.5ft in height. Yes based on what I had found average on... 40~50kg per cubic meter, roughly about 50-62 fish per 1k liter. But then mostly the info I had from google came from aquaponic folks which prioritize on plants.




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post Jan 29 2016, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(thelws @ Jan 29 2016, 02:52 PM)
Bigger problem will be your ras system. In general 5 fish per m3 is a very acceptabl. Rate
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Hmmm 50 fish in a 10000 liter tank? You sure about this?
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post Jan 29 2016, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(thelws @ Jan 29 2016, 06:33 PM)
That's why I said your ras system is bigger problem. If you want to increase density you better make sure your system can handle the waste.

If your ras system is not industrial don't bother else you'll have a lot of dead fish or very slow growth.

Most people don't even know what is needed to "clean" the water. Just saying. I'm not implying that about you. But if you were an expert on ras systems you would know how much waste your system can handle and hence how much fish you could put
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I'm still designing the bio filter. The system will consist a expandable moving bed reactor where additional tank can be connected to cope with the bio load, clarifier , a tank for static media and last not least a expandable trickle/ co2 stripper to increase the total dissolve oxygen. The cost of media meterial alone would set me back around 4k. I'm still designing the filter with the capability to covert few kg of feed daily.

You seems to had experience in ras system mind to share more?
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post Jan 29 2016, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(thelws @ Jan 29 2016, 07:09 PM)
I am not an expert in ras. But I have been fish farming. I had to learn a bit about ras when I wanted to set up a transit pond last time.

Long story short I end up just changing water whenever my waste levels get too high.

In my pond I stock about 10000 tilapia. At the end of the harvest I can be feeding up to 140kg of food a day. And that is just for 1 pond. Find me a ras system to handle that kind of load.

On a smaller scale you would still have to be able to handle a bit more than just a few kg of food a day. You need to add a bit more because the fish breathe out waste as well and that will happen regardless if you feed them or not.
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Thank you,very informative indeed. I'll redesign my filter again to take up more bio load. Assume 1000 fish at 800g per fish feed rate at 1.5% of weight. Total load per day around 12kg upon reaching harvest size.. I'll need a filter capable in handling atleast 16.8kg with 40% overhead for additional ammonia load.

Btw, your pond earth pond or fgt? Mind to share the capacity of ur pond for stocking 10k fish? Aeration,filtering method and etc?

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post Jan 29 2016, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Jan 29 2016, 07:00 PM)
I have tried a roughly 2000 litre for 100 tilapia n 100 catfish fry just for fun. Made a mistake mixed them in the tank. Tilapia grow very fast n not many catfish survived. By the time my tilapia grow to 600grams, the waste produced is heavy even for 100 tilapia fish.  So 500 fishes in 5000 litre tank growing, that is crazy unless u got high tech waste remover machine. Maybe u try split it up into 2 group once it get bigger. I love the feeding time. Below YouTube show can but nobody giving the trick to do it unless got $$

http://youtu.be/EGlIS-8QBgo
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Thank you for sharing,Mind to share ur water turn over rate, filteration method for ur 2k liter tank? How the survival rate for tilapia?

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post Jan 30 2016, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(thelws @ Jan 30 2016, 07:15 AM)
The farm is earthen pond. But we have non stop water flowing in from a river source. So we never have to worry about waste. Because of the flowing water, our ammonia levels never ever reach critical levels. If they start to rise we simply open the pipe to let in more water for a few hours. In effect we're doing a big scale water change.

For aeration, we use a 2hp air blower with aerotube. It is good enough because we have constant water flow. In fact you can use this method as well instead of oxygen injection for your ras. It's definitely the cheaper solution. Pond is roughly 1 acre in size.

Edit: you seem to know quite a bit about RAS, I'm still interested to learn about the ras system. Maybe we can meet up one day and share knowledge? Where are you based at?
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Ahh you have access to free water source. I don't have that kind of luxury as I'm converting my dad's workshop located in town area for aquaculture.

I'm not gonna use pure oxygen injection as it add up to the opex. I'll probably use a counter flow co2 stripper, if oxygen level is an issue later on, I'll just simply add throw in few o2 reactor power by air pump to further increase the dissolve oxygen.

Actually I'm still new on ras there's still a lot to learn, just started to research on this few month ago. smile.gif
BTW I'm had a full time job at KL, my aquaculture proof of concept project will be located at N9.



 

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