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 W205 Merc C-Class Avantgarde or F30 BMW 3 Series?, Need some advice please!

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TSDarkcity212
post Aug 31 2016, 03:19 AM, updated 10y ago

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im considering either one of these . but more to w205 avatgarde (CKD)
may i know which are better in terms of overall aspects ? and i also did notice the w205 where the park/reverse/neutral options are located on the right hand signal shifter. would that be dangerous to drive if accidentally engaged thinking it was a signal shift?
any advice will be much appreciated tq!
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post Aug 31 2016, 08:29 AM

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need to step brake to engage. see youtube for actual function
bmw as well
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post Aug 31 2016, 09:39 AM

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BMW has 5 years maintenance included. But after this expires as it is more expensive to maintain than a Merc. The CKD BMWs are noted for poor built quality giving problems associated more with Protons than a luxury car. I would go for the W205 as a better built car.
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post Aug 31 2016, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 31 2016, 08:29 AM)
need to step brake to engage. see youtube for actual function
bmw as well
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its still not safe i believe .. as we tend to brake before signalling at times . if we're driving halfway and accidentally swtiched into reverse or park mode , i dont know what would happen
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post Sep 1 2016, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(kluseng @ Aug 31 2016, 09:39 AM)
BMW has 5 years maintenance included. But after this expires as it is more expensive to maintain than a  Merc. The CKD BMWs are noted for poor built quality giving problems associated more with Protons than a luxury car. I would go for the W205 as a better built car.
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i think its a no brainer , when it comes to comparing both . my own concern is the safety features and engine performance .yes everyone would say bmw performs better, but is it a big difference as if it can smoke a w205 easily? have u tested both cars yet?
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post Sep 1 2016, 06:13 AM

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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Aug 31 2016, 11:57 PM)
its still not safe i believe .. as we tend to brake before signalling at times . if we're driving halfway and accidentally swtiched into reverse or park mode , i dont know what would happen
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Accidentally shift to N, maybe.

But now days transmission will most likely block you from shifting into R without stopping completely.

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post Sep 1 2016, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Sep 1 2016, 06:13 AM)
Accidentally shift to N, maybe.

But now days transmission will most likely block you from shifting into R without stopping completely.
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myself did that, 2008 toyota car. just went to free gear with reverse sensor beep beep beep.
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post Sep 1 2016, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Sep 1 2016, 09:08 AM)
myself did that, 2008 toyota car. just went to free gear with reverse sensor beep beep beep.
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while driving ?? did anything happen??
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post Sep 1 2016, 10:58 AM

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now that the w205 is ckd, will it be garbage as the 3series?
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post Sep 1 2016, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Sep 1 2016, 10:58 AM)
now that the w205 is ckd, will it be garbage as the 3series?
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whats your definition of 'garbage' for a car thats over 200k?
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post Sep 1 2016, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Sep 1 2016, 10:42 AM)
while driving ?? did anything happen??
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60kph toward red traffic light. was push over the position, not purposely.

so the reverse sensor beep beep beep i dunno what sound is that, until i realise wrong gear aiya...

QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Sep 1 2016, 10:58 AM)
now that the w205 is ckd, will it be garbage as the 3series?
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f30 will reach my house tonite. got offer so dad dont mind the ckd quality

QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Sep 1 2016, 11:04 AM)
whats your definition of 'garbage' for a car thats over 200k?
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garbage is exaggerate, very mean.
under expection is what he try to ask.
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post Sep 1 2016, 01:53 PM

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haha eventually all CKD have issues, go for a test drive and you will know which to choose
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post Sep 1 2016, 02:40 PM

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sorry ,i mean ,does the ckd versions of both brands are lousy as compared to cbu?
i heard of ckd being better of resale values because of its easier accessible parts and reliable plus its made to suit our weather. but which ckd brands does a better job?

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post Sep 1 2016, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Sep 1 2016, 12:05 PM)
60kph toward red traffic light. was push over the position, not purposely.

so the reverse sensor beep beep beep i dunno what sound is that, until i realise wrong gear aiya...
f30 will reach my house tonite. got offer so dad dont mind the ckd quality
garbage is exaggerate, very mean.
under expection  is what he try to ask.
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congrats bro. does it feel like a cbu version ?share with us some of your thoughts tonight:D
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post Sep 1 2016, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(garrick86 @ Sep 1 2016, 01:53 PM)
haha eventually all CKD have issues, go for a test drive and you will know which to choose
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Actually all cars have issues even the most expensive ones in the world smile.gif nothing is perfect and I think the first thing we should do is decide what we prefer rather than asking others. After that, ask about the reliability, common issues and if it's nothing really worrying, go buy the car.
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post Sep 1 2016, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Sep 1 2016, 02:43 PM)
Actually all cars have issues even the most expensive ones in the world smile.gif nothing is perfect and I think the first thing we should do is decide what we prefer rather than asking others. After that, ask about the reliability, common issues and if it's nothing really worrying, go buy the car.
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but if i ask every dealers, they will sure say everything is all good 100%
which is why its unlikely to get an honest comment if i ask them..
i asked bmw salesmen,they bash about mercs,when i ask mercs,they bashed about bmw
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Haha seriously you need a test drive to get the feeling of both cars, all cars eventually for issue but you get warranty.

Service wise W205 is expensive if you dont bugged your SA for service vouchers.
F30 get 5 years included which is good.

Interior wise W205 is much better, handling wise F30 is much better. It really depends what you focus and need really.
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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Sep 1 2016, 03:07 PM)
but if i ask every dealers, they will sure say everything is all good 100%
which is why its unlikely to get an honest comment if i ask them..
i asked bmw salesmen,they bash about mercs,when i ask mercs,they bashed about bmw
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Actually that's the worse way to sell something in today's world smile.gif the salesman is using the wrong strategy obviously and I feel they should share what differentiates them against competitors rather than talking bad or bashing.

Reality of life, every car manufacturer has their own problems. It's a matter of how severe and if it's something we can accept if we buy.
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post Sep 1 2016, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Sep 1 2016, 03:07 PM)
but if i ask every dealers, they will sure say everything is all good 100%
which is why its unlikely to get an honest comment if i ask them..
i asked bmw salesmen,they bash about mercs,when i ask mercs,they bashed about bmw
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this kind of situation. i see my mood will react differently.
anyway i prefer w205 for styling and handling.
f30 has attractive price (eev discount 2 time this year) to overcome

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QUOTE(garrick86 @ Sep 1 2016, 03:52 PM)
Haha seriously you need a test drive to get the feeling of both cars, all cars eventually for issue but you get warranty.

Service wise W205 is expensive if you dont bugged your SA for service vouchers.
F30 get 5 years included which is good.

Interior wise W205 is much better, handling wise F30 is much better. It really depends what you focus and need really.
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this round mercedes got double wishbone wor....
f30 can fight?

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