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post Oct 15 2019, 11:01 AM

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Hello,
My wife and I are new to the Lowyat forum. We found this lowyat site through Google.

We are a family of four and are in the midst of relocating out from Hong Kong to Malaysia.
We have decided to rent a semi-D at Eco Sanctuary for the time being.
We may buy our own semi D/bungalow in the future from Ecoworld or Tropicana.

The reason we choose this location is due to
=> close proximity to Chinese Taipei International school at Bukit Rimau and various other international schools in this area
=> close to KLIA
=> close to two golf courses nearby
=> close to the beach.
=> Chinese area
=> close to good seafood in Klang
=> we really love the landscaping here and the serenity of the Tropicana canals & lakes

We plan to send our younger kid to the Chinese Taipei International school.
My elder kid will go to an International school. We did a search for International school within 30 minutes drive of Eco Sanctuary and there seems to be quite a few of them.

Tenby International School Tropicana Aman - 3 mins drive
Oasis International School - 6 mins drive
MAHSA International School - 10 mins drive away at Bandar Saujana Putra
Kingsley International School - 20 mins drive away at Putra Heights
Victoria International School (VIS), Banting -27 mins drive away
Taylor’s International School Puchong - 26 mins drive away
Rafflesia International & Private Schools Puchong - 23 mins drive away
The Alice Smith School, Seri Kembangan - 29 mins drive away
Sunway International School - 25 mins drive away
Fairview International School Subang Jaya Campus - 24 mins drive away

Here is our dilemma
Which International school to send our son to?
We would love to hear feedback from the local Malaysian with their experience at these schools.
Thank you.

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post Oct 15 2019, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Oct 15 2019, 12:02 PM)
Welcome to the Malaysia forum.
I guess the situation must be really bad in Hong Kong now that you decide to leave HK and relocate to Malaysia.

Yes. The economic situation is really bad in HK now. Many are planning to sell their homes and move overseas.


Btw, why do you choose Eco Sanctuary?
Why dont u choose other hot addresses in KL like KLCC, Mont Kiara, Bangsar or even places like Desa Park city? (just curious)

We have no desire to live in or too close to KL city.
Having lived in high rise all my life in HK, we prefer landed property for a change.
Thus, KLCC and Mont Kiara are out of consideration.
Our agent did recommend and bring us to Desa Park City. In our opinion, we think Eco Sanctuary is much more spacious and beautiful. We really like the ES environment better together with the much larger Tropicana canals and lakes. (vs Desa Park city lake).
Besides that, we really want to be closer to the Chinese Taipei International for my younger kid.
My other reasons are listed in my earlier post.
The reason we choose this location is due to
=> close proximity to Chinese Taipei International school at Bukit Rimau and various other international schools in this area
=> close to KLIA
=> close to two golf courses nearby
=> close to the beach.
=> Chinese area
=> close to good seafood in Klang
=> we really love the landscaping here and the serenity of the Tropicana canals & lakes




Wow, you really did your research about the International schools near this area for your son.
Before this , I don't know that there are so many of these international schools within a 30 mins drive from Eco Sanctuary to chose from.
Good job to you.

In my opinion, if I were you, I would take the easy decision to go with the one that is closer to home.
Either Tenby or Oasis.
Both are new schools, with good facilities and appear to be fairly diverse with a good number of wealthy locals or expatriates.

It also depends on whether you prefer UK based curriculum (Tenby) or American based curriculum (Oasis). Eg where u plan to send your son for college/uni eventually?




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Thank you for your feedback on the schools.

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post Oct 15 2019, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 15 2019, 12:41 PM)
Hi good day.

If chinese taipei school is your priority, i seriously dont have other recomendation beyond areas close to bukit rimau.

Please take note that the travel time you quoted here is 'the best scenario' cases. Actual time will be longer.

Since you will be renting, you shouldnt be tearing your hairs out. Settle in first and take your time to survey, talk to as many hong kongers and locals there possible and decide.

My personal recommendation is eco ardence or setia eco park. Its a more matured township with amenities are aplenty and its next to one of the largest forest reserves.

Happy hunting.
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Thank you for your suggestion.
Yes. As we have two kids, the abundance of good international schools nearby and the closeby Chinese Taipei School is one of the top criteria.
One of my business associates used to live at Setia Eco Park. However, he moved out from there to Eco Sanctuary.
He is a fairly successful local Malaysian Chinese. He recommended Eco Sanctuary as he said there are a lot of future potential at ES.
We also visited Eco Ardence. We like Eco Sanctuary much better. My wife which is an architect prefers Eco Sanctuary's environment and style too. It is just a personal taste and preference.
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post Oct 16 2019, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Oct 15 2019, 01:09 PM)
Sorry to hear about the economic situation in Hong Kong. I hope the situation gets better soon.
Thank you for your feedback on ES vs Desa Park city.
We don't hear many local people that would speak highly about this new mega township vs places like Desa Park city Hahaha. There are many local haters/busy body like Beancounter taiko lurking around too Hahaha
We take your feedback as a compliment Hahaha.
Please don't spread this 'little secret' of yours with your Hongkie comrades. Hahaha
Foreigners can only buy properties above 2 million ringgit in the state of Selangor.
Some might be afraid speculative Hongkie would come into this area and push the landed home prices here beyond 2 million ringgit. Making it unaffordable to the locals.
I have seen first hand how Hongkie speculates on real estate. It is scary how high you guys can bid up the price.
Good luck with your international school hunt for your son.
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Well. My wife is Malaysian. She used to live in Subang many many years ago.
So, that 2 million rule does not apply to us(hypothetically) if we use her name to buy.

No worries. I won’t tell the world about how nice and ‘affordable’ ES is. Haha
Yes. Hong Kong’s real estate is really expensive.
A small 500sqft apartment can cost up to usd1million etc.
Living in a landed property is a pipe dream for most Hong Kong folks.
For most Hong Kong folks, 1.5 - 2 million ringgit for a 3000sqft good landed area is really a very good deal. So many(like me) who decided to leave would rather buy landed property than high rise apartments in Malaysia.


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post Oct 16 2019, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 15 2019, 09:31 PM)
good on you.

eco sanctuary is really a haven. I posted somewhere before, of all the townships, the nicest one is eco sanctuary and followed by Eco ardence. I have yet to identify no. 3. Perhaps Gamuda 257 but only one model that I like, the lake fronting SMD.

but location wise, its not my cup of tea. But each to its own.

do note that all eco sanctuary homes come with only ONE kitchen, i.e. no separation of dry and wet kitchen, which is an essential part of Asian cooking, when you do have such large built in space.

rent 1st and decide if you want to buy later. Do note that Selangor, the limit for foreigner buyers is Rm2mil, and not 1mil or 600k.

Setia Eco park made 1st hand buyers plenty of money, therefore am not surprising that many original buyers have cashed out and move on.

p/s- one last thing, I don't find the built quality of Eco World homes is that great but I do hope they improved.
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Eco Ardence is out as I want to be closer to the Chinese Taipei International school, closer to nearby beaches and closer to the KLIA airport for my ‘ taxi’/flight back to HK or nearby Singapore.
Besides, I really prefer Klang Valley south vs Klang valley north as my business associates feel the South side has more future potential and various developments e.g. HSR , ECRL etc

Thanks for the tips on ES house layout with one kitchen only.
Actually, in terms of house layout, my architect wife really likes the Tropicana Dalia semi D or the Cheria Type B semi D. Those have the spacious open floor plan feel which are really popular nowadays. The queen of the house (my wife) likes it as she can monitor everything on the ground floor from the dry or wet kitchen. Hahaha. Coming from someone who lives in a 1500sqft condo in HK, the 3200sqft Cheria maybe just nice for a family of 4. E.g. not too scarily big, nor too small. Also, with Tropicana Cheria or Dalia, my teenage son might be able to take a quick 5-10 minutes walk to school/Tenby (if he goes there). That may be a good way for us to train him to be independent. E.g. walk to school, walk to shop to buy food etc. Unfortunately, those homes are not available for rent at the moment. I may check those out later when I am ready to buy.

My wife is Malaysian. So the 2 million rule does not apply to us.

Yes. My business associate is a smart man eg cashing out of Setia Eco Park capital appreciation and moving on to newer, nicer architecture home at ES. I guess he don’t want to take all the hassle of maintaining his old Setia Eco-park house.


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post Oct 19 2019, 06:58 AM

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Oct 16 2019, 09:07 AM)
Out of curosity though, have you thought of looking at Kota Kemuning itself? It’s a lot nearer to the Chinese Taipei International School (save u a 15 mins drive perhaps) and the area is a lot more mature than Eco Sanctuary/Tropicana Aman. Or is it you prefer new(er) houses and see your purchase as a long term investment?
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We prefer new house with good security and nice landscape (nice secure environment).

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post Oct 22 2019, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 21 2019, 01:07 PM)
1. Better double check Chinese Taipei school, i checked 2 years ago and they were closed for registration (except for taiwanese) cause they were overbooked. Maybe that has changed?

Thanks. No issue for me.

2. Cheria has yet to VP hence no rental, but the Type A is 3670sqft built up. I think should still have a few units available for sale, VP will be in a month or so. Your wife can monitor everything from the kitchen as well, just do like me and knock down a wall and viola everything is opened up.

3. I agree I prefer the Dalia Semi D layout compared to Cheria, the stair design makes the house looks MUCH more spacious then its 3900sqt suggest.

Thanks. We prefer the Cheria Type B or Dalia type of layout. More traditional living room in front with open floor plan to dining and kitchen. To a certain extent(but not critical), Cheria Type B layout much better than Dalia since we feel 3200sqft is just about the right size for a family of 4 e.g. not too big. and Cheria has a) wet kitchen with the wall facing land/side of house vs Dalia's kitchen facing internal wall b) Cheria has a big master bedroom windows facing front vs Dalia's none.
This is just a personal preference of house layout. Others may not agree with my architect wife. That's ok.



4. For international school, I suggest Tenby/Oasis for logistical ease. I plan to send my daughter to either one of these as well depending on whether she want to go for British or American syllabus.
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Yes. We have shortlisted to either Tenby or Oasis.
I do like Tenby better as there is a possibility my son can walk to school in the future.
Still deciding. Thanks for the feedback.




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post Oct 22 2019, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 21 2019, 01:12 PM)
Have you looked at Sri Suria? G&G (not strata) with their own club house (swimming pool etc). 

They have a mixed of Bungalow/Semi D/Terrace. Some of it quite new. (some 4~5 yrs old Semi D)

There is also land for sale, you can build your dream house ground up...

Its about 1km away from Chinese Taipei school...
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4-5 years is still too old for us e.g old house plan etc.
We prefer new.

btw, Lots of my Hong Kie friends are enquiry about our move to Malaysia.
Lots of them see no future in Hong Kong now and are really moving out.
Recent news...https://www.thestartv.com/v/foreigner-s-dream-home-in-malaysia

If I tell them about this place(ES/TA/G257) and especially ES I am afraid they will be wowed.
This place may become Eco Sanctuary Hong Kong haha

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post Oct 23 2019, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 22 2019, 10:42 AM)
Well if you prefer new you can consider to get your architect wife to buy the land in Sri Suria and build the house to your personal liking  thumbsup.gif
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Too bad . My wife has already developed a strong fondness for the ES/TA/G257/IJM environment and location after visiting it for the first time. She says it's her 'Sei Thai Thin Wong'/ 4 heavenly king location wor laugh.gif


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post Oct 23 2019, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Oct 22 2019, 10:20 AM)
lol dont la. i dont want gentrification. sad.gif
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Unfortunately, most Hong Kong folks have been arriving in droves to Malaysia in recent months. smile.gif .
Some prefer high rise. Some (like me) finds great value in the landed property.

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post Oct 24 2019, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 23 2019, 10:19 AM)
4 heavenly kings is getting old...

Anyway, since you have made up your mind, let me welcome you to the neighborhood!  thumbup.gif
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Thanks. smile.gif
Renting in ES for now while we continue shopping for our home in Canal city.
We really enjoyed walking at the Tropicana Lake and along the canal while watching the beautiful sunset.
This area is so serene and peaceful. We like it. It's much better than a chaotic HK or busy downtown KL city.
I heard they have another Tropicana lake opening in the future on the other side connected by walkways and canal.
Just a short drive away at the nearby Morib beach, the sunset is equally stunning too.

Life like this eg a nicely landscaped landed homes with good schools and within a short drive to the beach, seafood, various golf courses, and airport are impossible to attain for most average HK folks.





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post Oct 24 2019, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Oct 23 2019, 09:43 AM)
Wow. Your architect wife and you are very thoughtful and detail when both of u shop for a house yeah  thumbsup.gif
All Cheria homes are a PanaHome. It comes integrated with Panasonic Puretech whole house air filter to deal with Klang Valley's hazy season.
https://news.panasonic.com/global/topics/2016/45279.html
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Thanks for the info.
I agree with you , the built-in air filter and air tight home will be very handy during hazy seasons.
I will do some research on the Puretech air filter system. thumbsup.gif
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post Oct 25 2019, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(mingyew @ Oct 24 2019, 10:51 AM)
Please bring more Hong Kie come here. Wantanmee here nicer than HK one.
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Sure. Let's me go and promote this brand new landed luxury location with my 'heng dai' 'che mui' who plan to move out from HK.
I am very sure they will like a peaceful and 'affordable' location like here.

WanTanMee is overrated.
Your 'Bah Ku Teh' especially those in nearby Klang is so good.
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post Oct 25 2019, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 24 2019, 11:31 AM)
I would say I love the food in HK, the shopping not bad, but the lifestyle... its like the extreme of Singapore and I dont like singapore..

People are packed like sardines, stress level seems high, everything too fast pace for me... getting old here.. so I'm more like you.. wind down and take life slower..
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post Oct 25 2019, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 24 2019, 12:25 PM)
Whats wrong?

This approach is know as "too free/busybody/KPC/eat full cannot berak"....

I wonder if u lurk in all the thread or just Canal City (I cant be bothered to check cause I have no interest/time to spend in other developments, unlike you)
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I am new here.
But this Beancounter does sound like a '8 poh' or '8 kong' to me. Haha.
He suggested me to look into Eco Ardence but if whole neighbourhood is filled with 8 poh, 8 kong or sam ku luk poh like him.
I dont like it.
Haha
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post Oct 26 2019, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 25 2019, 12:11 PM)
my HK friend,

I don't blame you....you are new to Malaysia and klang valley.

but please don't name calling me, this is the lowest of the low. throughout my posting, I never name calling anyone, we just debate based on known facts and info.

looks like you already immerse into the culture of name calling before even you settling in.

I just suggest you look at eco ardence. I didn't hard sell eco ardence. I didn't even talk about what plus points eco ardence has over canal city and I totally not vested in setia alam. you haven't been to eco ardence and you don't know any buyers there but you already made assumption of the buyer profiles there...…….

let me reminded you that one of your biz friends used to live in eco park. perhaps he was also same characters like me??? just saying. oh yes, I used to own two bungalows in eco park. perhaps not as rich as your biz friend but I wont sink my teeth in eco sanctuary or eco ardence for personal reasons.
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My Malaysia Peng You/friend,
Please read back your comment below.

"Tis is public forum.... you can do whatever you want...."

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post Oct 26 2019, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(mingyew @ Oct 25 2019, 11:42 AM)
Try this one if u ok with mess environment.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/%E9%98%BF...Q_BIwCnoECA8QCA
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Thanks. I dont mind the mess at all.
I will go check it out someday.
On a side note, if you know any good seafood place nearby. Please let me know too.

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post Dec 4 2019, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(googmsftyhoo @ Oct 25 2019, 11:05 AM)
Sure. Let's me go and promote this brand new landed luxury location with my 'heng dai' 'che mui' who plan to move out from HK.
I am very sure they will like a peaceful and 'affordable' location like here.

WanTanMee is overrated.
Your 'Bah Ku Teh' especially those in nearby Klang is so good.
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Attached is a good article on why we, Hongkie are moving from HK to Malaysia.
A few of my heng dai, chee mui also started to survey Canal city area (Eco Santuary, Tropicana, Gamuda 257) upon my recommendation.



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post Dec 4 2019, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Dec 4 2019, 01:50 PM)
Good job Heng Dai.
So.....when are u buying your own unit at Canal city?
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We are still looking around. Taking it slowly as we adjust to our new life here.
So far....my wife likes the Tropicana Aman Cheria Type B and the TA Dalia.
Gamuda 257 also not bad but it is more expensive.
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post Dec 5 2019, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Jszeon @ Dec 4 2019, 02:11 PM)
Why is only 3? IJM Bandar Rimbayu also part of it?
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My Hongkie heng dai and chee mui can/are looking for landed property(proper semi-D and bungalow) above 2million ringgit only in accordance to the state law. Dont think Rimbayu have these type of homes. The other three (ES, TA, G257) have.

However, my wife is a Malaysian. Thus, the 2million ringgit rule does not apply to me.
We are looking for a proper semi-D or bungalow only. The Rimbayu Periwinkle semi-D is a cluster semi-D (not a proper semi-D). The Periwinkle, at 2267sqft max is a bit small for me. Even the Tropicana Aman Elemen new superlink terrace house at 3000sqft is bigger than the Rimbayu Periwinkle cluster semi-D.


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