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alcyon
post Oct 2 2016, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Oct 2 2016, 04:46 PM)
Wah,  Petronas  so  good? Never  thought  that  local  brand  could  be  so  good... Haha
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Hi delsoo. If you have read the links zeng posted, you would see petronas oil is well respected worldwide. You must understand Petronas isnt a 2 bit local company. They partner with world class blenders and hire some of the worlds best engineers..etc.
The only malaysian companies that i have no confidence in are..mazlub, jtx,hardex,platinum oil..jetron..you know what i mean..
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post Oct 2 2016, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(alcyon @ Oct 2 2016, 07:32 PM)
Hi delsoo. If you have read the links zeng posted, you would see petronas oil is well respected worldwide. You must understand Petronas isnt a 2 bit local company. They partner with world class blenders and hire some of the worlds best engineers..etc.
The only malaysian companies that i have no confidence in are..mazlub, jtx,hardex,platinum oil..jetron..you know what i mean..
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LOL, I have never heard the company that you mentioned.... Mazlab, Jetron.....
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post Oct 2 2016, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(alcyon @ Oct 2 2016, 07:32 PM)
Hi delsoo. If you have read the links zeng posted, you would see petronas oil is well respected worldwide. You must understand Petronas isnt a 2 bit local company. They partner with world class blenders and hire some of the worlds best engineers..etc.
The only malaysian companies that i have no confidence in are..mazlub, jtx,hardex,platinum oil..jetron..you know what i mean..
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LOL, I have never heard the company that you mentioned.... Mazlab, Jetron.....
alcyon
post Oct 2 2016, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Oct 2 2016, 08:24 PM)
LOL,  I have  never  heard  the  company  that  you  mentioned....  Mazlab,  Jetron.....
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how about hyrax ? biggrin.gif , its good you haven't heard of them.
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post Oct 2 2016, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(alcyon @ Oct 2 2016, 08:44 PM)
how about hyrax ?  biggrin.gif , its good you haven't heard of them.
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What's wrong with Hyrax? Like Petronas, they have API certification.
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QUOTE(alcyon @ Oct 2 2016, 08:44 PM)
how about hyrax ?  biggrin.gif , its good you haven't heard of them.
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post Oct 2 2016, 09:57 PM

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currently using valvoline on rb20det.. very nice but not cheap.



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post Oct 2 2016, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(LemonKnight @ Oct 2 2016, 09:38 PM)
What's wrong with Hyrax? Like Petronas, they have API certification.
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For a company like hyrax to claim that they make such good oils...they must really know their stuff right ? How is it possible on their top of the line 0w30 to have both ilsac gf5 and acea a3/b4 ? Either they dont know much about oils..mislabel..or downright lying.
So if they are cheating about these specs..what else are they cheating on ? API cert is one thing..but what if yr engine requires other cert ..and they claim it meets those specs but does not actually meet or exceed those specs..then how ?
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QUOTE(alcyon @ Oct 2 2016, 11:42 PM)
For a company like hyrax to claim that they make such good oils...they must really know their stuff right ? How is it possible on their top of the line 0w30 to have both ilsac gf5 and acea a3/b4 ? Either they dont know much about oils..mislabel..or downright lying.
So if they are cheating about these specs..what else are they cheating on ? API cert is one thing..but what if yr engine requires other cert ..and they claim it meets those specs but does not actually meet or exceed those specs..then how ?
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well to my surprise lol
https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsRe...andName%3Dhyrax
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post Oct 4 2016, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 4 2016, 03:09 AM)
So it is GF-5, that means cant be ACEA A3/B4. then they shouldn't display that on the label. API specs are pretty easy to pass.

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QUOTE(alcyon @ Oct 2 2016, 07:32 PM)
Hi delsoo. If you have read the links zeng posted, you would see petronas oil is well respected worldwide. You must understand Petronas isnt a 2 bit local company. They partner with world class blenders and hire some of the worlds best engineers..etc.
The only malaysian companies that i have no confidence in are..mazlub, jtx,hardex,platinum oil..jetron..you know what i mean..
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Hi alcyon,

What about Bosch X7, Bardahl MXP, BHP SynGard, Lexus, Mitsubishi or even Tesco brands?

Mind sharing the link zeng posted?

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post Oct 4 2016, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(putra23 @ Oct 4 2016, 02:26 PM)
Hi alcyon,

What about Bosch X7, Bardahl MXP, BHP SynGard, Lexus, Mitsubishi or even Tesco brands?

Mind sharing the link zeng posted?
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I have tried BHP Syngard, nothing much to say about it, did not do a UOA, and i will probably not try it again and and have no incentive to do so.
BOSCH, Bardahl should be good oils, again , never tried them. Lexus , I dont know. Mitsubishi i heard is packaged by ENEOS and the full syn can be had for RM99 on sale at AEON. seems like a good buy , but the shear stability might not be up to par with Shell. Its a 5W-40, so if the shear stability isnt good might go down to a 30. Only way to know is do a UOA. May try it in the future but as I have already tried CASTROL 0W-40 and Shell 5W-40 and results are almost the same so I see no point in trying a other brand 5W-40, its probably not gonna do any better.
I am trying a 30 monograde now, just to study the effects of oil with VII and one without.

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post Oct 4 2016, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Aug 20 2016, 11:19 PM)
I know the best engine oil is fully synthetic engine oil . But , it's too expensive . I wanna try good semi synthetic oil . Which is good ? 20w40 ? 20w50 ? 10w30 ? my car is old proton saga . I need to drive the car long distance ( from kl to johor) , so i need to maintain the car in good condition) .
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Bardhal 15w-40 Semi Synthetic - RM 85
Bardhal 0w-40 Fully Synthetic - RM 120

If I am not mistaken.
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post Oct 4 2016, 04:49 PM

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Anyone come across http://www.aveno-oil.de/en/passenger-car-e...-synthetic.html ?
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post Oct 7 2016, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(alcyon @ Oct 4 2016, 02:40 PM)
I have tried BHP Syngard, nothing much to say about it, did not do a UOA, and i will probably not try it again and and have no incentive to do so.
BOSCH, Bardahl should be good oils, again , never tried them. Lexus , I dont know. Mitsubishi i heard is packaged by ENEOS and the full syn can be had for RM99 on sale at AEON. seems like a good buy , but the shear stability might not be up to par with Shell. Its a 5W-40, so if the shear stability isnt good might go down to a 30. Only way to know is do a UOA. May try it in the future but as I have already tried CASTROL 0W-40 and Shell 5W-40 and results are almost the same so I see no point in trying a other brand 5W-40, its probably not gonna do any better.
I am trying a 30 monograde now, just to study the effects of oil with VII and one without.
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Thanks a lot for sharing. Keep up the effort.
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post Oct 7 2016, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(putra23 @ Oct 4 2016, 02:26 PM)
Mind sharing the link zeng posted?


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post Oct 7 2016, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(alcyon @ Oct 2 2016, 11:42 PM)
How is it possible on their top of the line 0w30 to have both ilsac gf5 and acea a3/b4 ? Either they dont know much about oils..mislabel..or downright lying.


Lying ...., I speculate. cool2.gif

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