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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.14, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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adele123
post Aug 26 2016, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(kjlow88 @ Aug 26 2016, 08:22 PM)
Is the hlb e-fd 3.95% 12 month ,good and trustable ? Did anyone just placed it ?
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There's nothing not to trust. Just read through t&c on how to get the promo rate. Need to use fpx to transfer.
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post Sep 15 2016, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(zero721 @ Sep 14 2016, 02:38 PM)
Newbie here. Just wanna get some opinion from all the senior here. For example, a bank just called up and said can give me a special flexi personal loan around 10k. And the interest rate is 3.99% per annum. No other hidden charge or processing fee. Do you think I should get this 10k to do something? Maybe can earn some money using this 10k since the interest is only rm399 for 1 year.
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Since you are newbie,

For personal loan and hire purchase, bank quote you interest rate, known as flat interest rate or academically known as simple interest rate. For housing loan, bank quote you interest rate known as effective interest rate (EIR) or sometimes I see being described as effective annual rate (EAR). For this purpose, I call it effective rate. EIR is the actual rate applied to you. You use this to compare to your returns from FD.

The analogy is like saying something is 3 feet long and 1 metre long. You must convert them into same ‘unit’ to know which is longer (or shorter). Similarly. Your must convert the flat interest rate into EIR to compare.

So for 3.99% p.a. for 1 year, the EIR is actually 7.29% p.a. So this is actually obviously higher than your FD. So no, please don’t take the personal loan to place in FD.

As for the maths behind it, I think we skip it for now. Yes, no doubt the interest is still just RM399 per year, but the maths will tell you the rate you are being charged is 7.29%. reason being bank should charge you lesser interest as you pay off your loan, but it doesn’t happen in this case. So for now, ignore the maths, know the difference. Use calculators provided (use the link I have given). We are not in the age where we calculate on our own.

https://loanstreet.com.my/calculator/flat-t...rest-calculator

QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 14 2016, 05:01 PM)
Go for ASNB, interest 6% ++ PA

Can cover your loan and earn the 2% +- interest.
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hello, please do not misled others. read my comments above.

QUOTE(jayko @ Sep 14 2016, 08:14 PM)
HLB FD 3.80% interest is for FPX transfer only, but FPX is by BN, sound fishy, anyone?
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FPX is just another method of payment/transfer. nothing fishy about it. I believe, HLB is doing it to ensure fresh fund, although i still think easily manipulated.

It's just that you are not familiar with FPX. FYI, GIRO and instant is also under BNM. sweat.gif

This post has been edited by adele123: Sep 15 2016, 09:37 AM
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post Sep 18 2016, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(galaxynote259 @ Sep 16 2016, 01:25 AM)
this is interesting, so i guess the main thing here is our understanding on flat rate and effective rate.

would you care to elaborate more the proper understanding to look at these 2 terms?
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You can read this article by loanstreetRead this

The simple way is really to know that bank quote interest in flat rate for hire purchase and personal loan.

Effective rate is for housing loan. In simple way of explaining, your savings acct/fixed deposit is also quoted in effective rate.

Difference of flat rate vs effective rate.

1) For flat rate it means that interest is charged on the entire principal. Simple example, 1 year loan, RM100,000 at 5%.

Interest = 5000
Loan = 100000
Total to be paid = 105000
Monthly instalment = 105000/12=8750 per month.

2) The calculation for effective rate is more mathematical and complicated but the intuition is that, everytime i pay my instalment. thankfully we can just use calculators provided.

https://loanstreet.com.my/calculator/home-l...duty-calculator

Using their calculator. RM100,000 loan, 100% financing, 5% interest, 1 year.

Monthly instalment: RM8,560.75
Interest = RM2728.98
Loan = RM100000

Total to be paid = RM102728.98

SO another way of thinking is, when i borrow money from bank, and when i pay them back every month, i reduce the interest charge to me. because the money i owe them is lesser. This is the case for housing loan.

For car loan, it's not. So that's why the difference is there.
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post Dec 6 2016, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(eelynsoon @ Dec 6 2016, 02:16 AM)
I dont think so. I just went over to hlb today and asked about this promo the customer service told me it is no longer available. The current promo is 3.8% ..
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The tuesday promo is extended. It's online. 4.15% over 6 months. Nothing to do with counter.

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