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 ILLEGEAR Custom Gaming Laptops v.3, RTX ON! ILLEGEAR RTX Gaming Notebook.

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jrlogger
post Feb 20 2018, 11:15 PM

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Hi, there is no promotion for S5X? Also, does the S5X have Windows Precision drivers for the touchpad?

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post Apr 25 2018, 05:21 PM

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Received my ONYX yesterday. So far so good, pretty satisfied with the laptop and the performance. Would like to share a few thoughts:

1. The screen is really yellow, at least in my unit? It feels like the night mode is on 24/7, maybe I'm just used to blueish screens. Other than that though, the screen is pretty great, I like the colours !
2. The velvet sleeve seems a bit small 😅 can't even get it to close properly with the laptop in it.
3. Temperature is ok, just that the fans seem to spin loudly for no reason and randomly, maybe it is Windows updating or indexing, not sure about that. Hopefully the next bios update addresses this if this persists.
4. Didn't seem to find any driver CDs , manual, colour calibration cd or any other stuff other than the power supply in the box, unlike my previous ILLEGEAR. I like that the stickers are provided seprately and not stuck on the laptop though
5. Wonder if there's any way to make the keyboard not light up whenever I reboot the laptop.

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post Apr 25 2018, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Apr 25 2018, 05:43 PM)
Hi jrlogger,

Does your laptop have color calibration? Once the calibrated profile is loaded the screen becomes warmer. Windows default color profile is more blueish.

Yes the new BIOS and EC updates will improve the fan settings.
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Hi Prince,

I see, yup it is calibrated, looking forward to the update!
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post May 1 2018, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ May 1 2018, 02:01 PM)
Well, the Onyx is getting about the same results as the Coffee Lake Zephyrus when I run a 30m Cinebench Multi Loop-test (1050-ish points average, no drops), so yeah at least it's not underperforming.

BTW, anybody have any idea what a good starting point for CFL-H UV is? My last 7700HQ easily took -125 to core, cache and iGPU (and probably more, though I couldn't really be bothered to tweak)... and all my searching is only turning up one guy saying -120 over at the GS65 thread in NBR (which is what I'm gonna start with, just because lol).

I'm well aware of silicon differences in terms UV (hell, I'm extremely vocal about how UV settings are pretty much something that only really works on a per-proc basis), but a good starting point does simplify the slog of trial and error lol.
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I think I lost the silicon lottery sad.gif

Started with -0.1

Only able to get it stable at -0.045 using throttle stop for core cache and igpu

Haven't tried tweaking it further, though -0.065 already gave me BSODs

Gonna test the mid 50s when I have more time
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post May 1 2018, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ May 1 2018, 09:07 PM)
You're on the Onyx too? Well if you're on the 8750H, be content in the knowledge that it might not just be you, as Intel might have just crammed a bit too much crap in there that it might not even UV as well as the 7700HQ anymore lol.

Do take note that you might NOT want to run the same UV value across the board for all the 3 parts though. Sometimes the core/cache takes a lot more UV then the IGPU can handle. Just in case you didn't notice.

Buuuttt, I haven't tried myself though, maybe in a bit.
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Yup, the 8750H with GTX 1060.

Good to know, going to need more data to see my chip is normal or the odd one out though tongue.gif

With that slight undervolt, getting max CPU 92 degrees, and GPU 77 degrees while playing games... (most stressful task for the Onyx so far other than benchmarks)

Though that's with turbo boost enabled and Kryonaut in a non-AC room, probably ambient 28 degrees. My previous 4720HQ would reach 100 degrees with turbo boost.

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post May 2 2018, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ May 2 2018, 02:06 AM)
I'm had just finished setting up UV with ThrottleStop (-125mv CPU, - 125mv Cache and -55mv iGPU, BD Prochot off; I'm using offsets rather then direct voltage adjustment BTW), and I'm now going all FurmarkPriming on it again.

I'm already a third through the 45m run, and things are looking a helluva lot better already. For one I'm seeing sustained peaks of 3.6GHz now, interspaced with lows of 3.2GHz (and a few dips of 2.8Ghz) - though I still have 2/3 of the run to go.

Temps so far is at 84c CPU and 80c GPU, about the same as before, and ThrottleStop is actually telling me the whole thing isn't even subject to Prochot limiting (which indicates thermal issues)... it's just hitting the bloody TDP limit - exactly as ZM Fong said it would.
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Looks like you got a good chip haha.

Wondering what benches do you use to test your UV? I read that sometimes benches aren't definitive, you have to actually use the PC or play some games.

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Oh, and in regards to UV again, do take note that your selected UV value is spread across the processor multiplier steps (aka speeds), and what works at... say, 2.2GHz... might not work as well at the other speed steps (ie. 1.2GHz or 3.2Ghz).

Case in point, me UVing my i5U Lenovo Miix 510 (yeah, I UVed a U-class processor lol). It was fine when it was being benched, but every time the load lessened and the proc slowed down, wierd things started to happen to Windows. Thankfully I quickly realised that it was just the system not being able to live with the UV at the lower points of the processor's speed - so I bumped the UV up a bit and everything was fine.

So yeah. Even if your selected UV value lives fine through a benching session, keep an eye out for weirdness once the load lessens.... and vice versa.
Yup. Sometimes my UV settings would seem fine while doing benches, but would freeze while using Chrome or BSOD after playing a game. Going to need more time to further tweak and find what my 8750H can handle lol.

QUOTE(Eiraku @ May 2 2018, 03:13 AM)
So, 45m over. What have we learned from our UV session?

- After about 30m, seems that the situation above has been reversed, and we can see peaks of 3.6Ghz interspaced with valleys of 3.2Ghz... both of which is STILL a lot better than the average of 2.8GHz we were seeing pre-UV.

- The drops to 3.2Ghz is due to the proc hitting the 45w TDP limit more than any form of heat throttling, as Prochot was NEVER engaged (as temps never hit 95c). So yeah, blame Intel lol.

So yeah, the takeout is, UV works quite well to increase the processing capabilities of the Onyx. That said, I did see ONE weird thing happening with the UV set to 125/125/55 - a folder containing only God knows suddenly appeared out on my desktop for no apparent reason (and yeah, sometimes UV doesn't even crash anything, it just makes wierd things happen lol).

So yeah, stepping a bit down to 120/120/55 now, just in case.

And, I just realised you're adjusting voltage direct jrlogger Any reason why you're not using the Offsets to adjust UV instead?
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Followed NBC's ThrottleStop guide and pretty sure I'm using the Offsets, unless I am mistaken? First time trying UV so yeah.
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post May 2 2018, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ May 2 2018, 08:05 AM)
Benches: If I'm in a hurry, the one built into TS. There's also Furmark + Prime95, together or seperately. But again like I said, not just benches. You need to check not only high oad stability, but med load and idle stability as well - something I see you have found out on your own (Benches, games and Chrome).

Ah, just a bit of an ehhh moment because you were mentioning the end Voltages (and not the value of the UV offset used).

Nah, if you're following the NBC's guide you should be golden. Don't worry.
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Thanks for your reply, guess it's going to take a while to find the 'right' setting. Now I'm only at -40/-40/-20, do not think it will be much different from stock lol.

No worries, didn't know how to refer to the UVs.

By the way, does your Onyx exhibit creaking sounds from the hinges? My unit's left hinge does sometimes when opening/closing the lid, at first I thought the hinge was broken or something. I think it may be a little too tight.

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post May 3 2018, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ May 3 2018, 11:49 AM)
Jrlogger and Eiraku, are you guys referring to the minor squeezing sound when opening the back case? We can help to apply some oil on it.

As for the EC and BIOS, we will have the 3rd update sometimes this week / next week.
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Only intermittent sounds from the hinge when opening/closing the lid hopefully will be gone in time.

Great, hopefully it will further fix the fans, mine suddenly revs up when doing nothing stressful, sounds like a plane taking off, judging from co-workers reactions tongue.gif
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post May 3 2018, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ May 3 2018, 02:05 PM)
Mine's OTW, just need to finish up pics and the last section. Also look out for reviews coming soon on Notebookcheck about the Schenker XMG Neo 15, which is essentially the same machine (with minor cosmetic differences).

In the mean time, here's a glamour shot of the Per-key RGB KBB to tide you over:

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And yeah, we'll probably gonna need a "proper" owners thread on the Onyx here soon.
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Looking forward to your review!

Maybe you can start the owners thread biggrin.gif
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post May 4 2018, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ May 4 2018, 01:19 AM)
The custom mechanical keyboard's keycap will be available as well smile.gif
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Is it possible to have a less 'clicky', quieter switch?
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post Oct 11 2018, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Oct 11 2018, 07:42 PM)
Is the new laptop thinner than onyx? TKL keyboard layout? MaxQ graphic or RTX?
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Impossible to be thinner than the onyx to have a mechanical keyboard and cool an i9 la tongue.gif

I'm guessing it's a 17 inch version of the onyx.
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post Oct 11 2018, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 11 2018, 08:53 PM)
Anybody have any recommendations for 3rd party chargers? Not sure how my charger can go missing after packing it with the laptop and even taking a photo of it before.  Guess my luck has been horrible since the day I purchased the U4. If only the laptop was reliable and i didn't even have to send my laptop back and forth then this wouldn't have happened. My mistake also for sending the charger along with the laptop. But since i didn't record myself packing the charger before delivery i will have to accept lah right.

What is more shocking is that Illegear does not keep any stock and have to order from their supplier which will take another 4 weeks and hundred of ringgit to buy it.  I really can't wait for another month to use this laptop doh.gif

so yeah, any recommendations would be welcomed.
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Can try Asus/MSI/Clevo power bricks

Level51's P-13 charger will fit your U4 too, perhaps you can ask for a quote.
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post Oct 12 2018, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Oct 12 2018, 01:46 PM)
TongFang doesn't have such model from what I know. Unless it's not a TongFang
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https://item.m.jd.com/product/100000012874.html

Probably based on this barebone, may be wrong
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post Oct 12 2018, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Oct 12 2018, 01:38 PM)
Haha..wouldn't mind something like blade 15 tbh even it has normal keyboard.
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Haha, I thought you already have the Onyx, just wait for next gen to upgrade tongue.gif
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post Oct 13 2018, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(James Teo @ Oct 13 2018, 01:17 PM)
Hey guys, just wanna ask if any Onyx user experience short battery life. I get the most 2hours under light surfing and video playing, no keyboard or LED light, 15 percent screen brightness.
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Sounds about right, I average about 2:30 hours only with similar settings

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