I think we should make it compulsory to display price in garage sales.
A lot of forums have already implemented this rule like cari forum, even selling/buying apps like carousell is also enforcing this rule.

I see some sellers purposely omitted this displaying price or other particulars so that people will type in "PM me" in the reply to help boost the thread.

This is very unfair to those sellers that provided full details on the first thread vs sellers that purposely not showing couple of details like price, postage, condition etc in hoping buyers will type in "PM me" in the thread to boost their threads.

For me, if you wanted to sell something, just insert your price regardless you are selling online, selling at pasar malam, selling at supermarkets, selling at shopping malls.... all are having price tags, why cant this forum implement it? Why is it so difficult for this forum to enforce it???????

+1

+1 for this suggestion/motion

suppork +1

support!

agree

If it is to combat indirect bump, why not suggest every sales thread to be non-reply-able thread?

Simple.

This post has been edited by cracksys: Aug 17 2016, 01:16 PM

this +1

this also good +1

summon meow2 to implement

owai dah pencen

agreed as well....

agreed

my reasoning is not much for the bumping but its easier for us to decide whether the item is within our budget or not rather than waiting for the seller to reply which sometime can take days

Supporto

making thread not being able to replied to doesn't really solve the issue of no price.

some sellers put no price and insist u call / sms / whatsapp them etc...
better dont post on forum in 1st place.

+1 to that .... going one by one pm ... and later ask me to offer ... later offer low, tak suka ...



This post has been edited by GrowTentProject: Aug 17 2016, 03:54 PM

Support! Hasn't this implementation been suggested in the past though?

yes, should put price, then state negotiable or firm.
it's funny to find seller put "offer me", but after that angry when people lowball

agree ~ putting price really save up a lot of time when browsing items in the sales threads...
at least a range if it's negotiable...

Evening

It's about damn time

Wasting buyers time and seller got something to hide(?)


If it's one item, put the price on the topic description.

If it's multiple, range.

Example; "Prices between RM50 - RM500"

This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Aug 17 2016, 08:08 PM

Some people write reviews to the thread. People like myself often read those reviews before buying.

So making it non-reply-able is like defeating the purpose to have it on a forum for a "discussion" IMO.

+1 from me too.
I hate going into a sales thread wanting to see if the item is within my budget and it says "PM me".

We've all these while left the price part OPTIONAL, simply because like it or not you put price or not, the thread will be so-called "BOOSTED" through other means.

In fact you'll probably get even more "BOOST" than not putting it.

We have all sorts of funny people on the forum.

The moment you put a price - it will NEVER be the right price.

You will see response like

"great price, I'm interested - PM me" <=--- so it's same thing whether you put price or not.

The next one will be.

"best price please" <=--- yes, this one is almost guaranteed to happen. What price you put there will almost always be someone posting that.

As if there's not enough.

Supposedly you're selling X good with new unit retailling at RM 700, yours is used so you put RM 600. You will now also come by .........

"your price too high, scammer!"

OK so maybe you're generous and put set it at half, RM 350.

"your price too low, scammer!"

Yes it happens, and it will still happen.

Then there are the other type of replies

"X person sell lower than you", "I got mine from X place at $$$".

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So as you can see, the argument of "boost thread" is actually moot here.

You must understand that while you guys want convenience as buyer, sellers also put "PM me" because they use it as a means to filter "play play only" type of people, really serious buyers will contact them.

To me, a few clicks doesn't kill me, and it's not like I'm doing it on daily basis. Whether the price is there or not, I will still PM the person on availability of the item.

oh btw this "PM me" thing is a Malaysian bad-habit.

You can see it in classifieds section too.

"Interested parties, please contact Mr Lowyat at 010-1101100" is clearly stated in 1st post but you'll see hordes of people still reply "PM me".

So not only you have the funny people who bash price (price police) despite having no interest in purchase, you have people who are incapable of understanding instructions.

Agree!

If LYN really decides to implement this MUST display price rule, then the PM button needs to be much much bigger.
I get newly registered customer sometimes, and there are really no intuitive ways for them to contact me, other than replying in the thread.
Maybe provide sales thread with a big button, CONTACT SELLER.

also those ppl who post in thread 'pm me', when price already stated, should be banned

Agree wholeheartedly.

You seems to generalizing that all or probably most buyers will type "PM me" in the reply box.
If the seller has clearly stated the price on the first thread, I will be lazy to type "PM me" in order to wait for the seller to PM me the price.
Yes, it will not completely remove all "PM me" replies but surely it will greatly minimise these unnecessary replies.

Displaying price is a global selling protocol. Which ecommerce website that you have visited allow sellers not displaying price?
Even in pasar malam, government force sellers to display price for instance RM10 for 5 apples. However, it's is up to the buyer to request the seller whether can it be sold for RM10 for 6 apples.

You can see most of the members here (admins, mods and members alike) agreed to my suggestion,

Going by the 1st post, you're the one who claims that, hence the BOOST thread part.

*referring to this part.



As for my part, I'm just saying that regardless whether one posts price, all sorts of response will appear.



OK, however note also that this is not an e-commerce website and neither is it a pasar malam.

If you notice, some people put price is "Offer" meaning they don't set the price but open to offer.



I didn't disagree to your suggestion btw. Just saying that the argument of "don't put price boost post" is flawed.

Anyway, this is from LYN boss https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1715497

So do click the REPORT button if you see any without price.

There's a reason why PRICE is part of the template when one posts something in Garage Sale.

*Yup, I've not been monitoring Trade Zone for so long I actually thought PRICE is optional. My apologies for that.*

This one I agree!

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=39269452

So solved already lah.

I think what would be best is to have a STANDARD format of posting.

Item, Description, Payment Method (COD location if applicable) and Price all has to be stated when posting.

Failure in which would result in auto deletion. Strict enforcement is needed

So reading from the ^ post, we would have to report any threads that didn't state their price?

If the buyer continues to post up a thread without listing the price, give warning once, then ban 3 days

Enforcement will be somewhat difficult due to the sheer amount of threads but no matter, just keep your report coming and we'll do what we can.

i think add new notes here might help abit

probably its best to have another announcement header that all threads need to have a price.
give a grace period of say 2 weeks, before any thread, reported or not, with no price will be closed without notice.

I like this suggestion.

saya menyokong penuh cadangan ini. *ketuk meja*

Thanks admin

+1 support from me and glad that this is enforced as i am seeing on the announcement right now.

no action needed on my own sales thread since i've always been putting pricing all the while before this

Totally agree..
Stupid to WTS but must pm for price!

Doesn't sound genuine

Thanks admin for the enforcement.

Great job

Thank you admins.

Yup, This is so normal. TQ. Fed up of "pm me for price crap"

I absolutely agree.

Also same thing with picture.

thanks for this. some even ask for my budget after i asked them directly for price. top mentality.

So even with the price, can we still put (PM us for Best price, or PM for nego and etc), depending on the requirements? Well, placing price is just an first level understanding, where MOST of them can be placed, hence there is what we called as SRP (Suggested Retail Price)

Assuming that we take an phone for example, Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, SRP 3k. Sample below

SRP of most goods are widely available (Especially laptops and etc), by implementing price requirements, it will help a lot, but for those who still plays the same game as above (For the sample above), they will be losing potential customers that is looking for a faster deal, then to wait for someone's PM.

Nevertheless, +1 for TS's request

put your selling price, i dont want to know srp. i can find that from google.
it easier for buyer to filter out those above what buyer is willing to pay.

fully agree with this plus it's really annoying when they don't display price tag
some seller had 3 dupes selling same thing with same m.o

Less circus merry go round! Syabas for ending that nonsense!

This would give bad impression. People expect negotiations. Some dont have that communication skill and directly say it is expensive

Like this fella

This post has been edited by dgrebel: Aug 31 2016, 08:43 AM


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Report jgn tak report
Permaban waiting for him

This is so welcomed. I always hate those threads where it said sell cheap cheap and yet the pricing is ridiculous.

Some said you need to nego for lower price but at least have a price there la. Personally I hate to haggle too much. Thats why ppl are prefering G5, Lazada etc nowdays. Haggling is tiring when they could be more transparent. Even hypermarket not everything cheap la... so why need to hide the price. Just sell at a price you are comfortable with.

Yes, thank you. I'm waiting for a long time for this.
Buyers and sellers can negotiate through PM, but the price must be shown on the thread.
And no more 'PM me' post. Users can straightaway PM the sellers.
Thank you again.

I put RM12XX okay or not?
Currency fluctuations makes it difficult for me to put a set price.

Edit:

I mentioned this earlier in this thread.

The PM button needs to be much much bigger.
I get newly registered customer sometimes, and there are really no intuitive ways for them to contact me, other than replying in the thread.
Maybe provide sales thread with a big button, CONTACT SELLER.

This post has been edited by koonghx: Aug 31 2016, 09:33 PM

It need to be a fixed price.
If you put RM12XX, other sellers will start to put RM1XXX which defeats the purpose of having a price transparency.
If you need to change your price daily, just update it daily on your first thread.
Why so difficult?
If other sellers at Lazada and eBay can update it daily due to price fluctuations, I believe you can update it daily at LYN Garage Sales also.

Lazada and ebay have system for batch update while lowyat don't have.
Plus, ebay has automatic currency converter.

This post has been edited by koonghx: Aug 31 2016, 11:22 PM

Yes please

My suggestion. Perhaps you could take it as a guide.
You can put:
Price: RM1,250 (price may slightly fluctuates based on exchange rate differences)

u can always put the actual currency where u are at, i believe that is always constant unless there is a sale.
or u can always put a fixed exchange rate like 1usd = rm4.3, like what some taobao middlemen do, then ur RM price will also be consistent.

as for 'no intuitive' ways, well u always have the option of putting email, whatsapp, skype etc etc, rather than just 'pm me'.

btw, as for a large 'CONTACT SELLER', u can always do that urself using large bold fonts and copying the pm link under ur avatar...like this.

CLICK TO CONTACT SELLER

This post has been edited by Everdying: Sep 1 2016, 12:26 PM

haha that big link is a nice idea.

then "+1"
shud be banned too right?

+1

What about WTT sales?

Come I clap for you.
Good suggestion.

It's kinda annoying when price is not displayed.

Some even better,
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Come I clap for you.
Good suggestion.

It's kinda annoying when price is not displayed.

Some even better,
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[NOTICE] All [WTS] threads in Trade Zone MUST INCLUDE ACTUAL SELLING PRICES.

[Extended] Starting 15th September 2016, all sales threads that fail to comply will be removed without prior warning.

over deadline already, any action taken ? how to report those thread ? xD

Just click the "Report" button

I have a question, I already make a thread in s.kopitiam but not yet receive any admin reply.

so as guided by one of the forumer, I came to this thread to ask my question.

Is "nego" allowed?

is it "RM2000 NEGO = ACTUAL SELLING PRICE" ?


If "nego" this word is allowed, then I think we all will see a lot

rm 500 nego

rm1000 , pm to nego

rm 2000 highly negotiable, offer me your price. (actually market selling price just rm1500, seller simply put price to follow the rule, but add "nego" to ask buyer offer price, what's the different compare to old time without price but "offer me" only?)

are all above examples stated considered as "ACTUAL selling price" ?

Can I report those "nego" thread?

This post has been edited by CyrusWong: Sep 16 2016, 06:52 PM

imo u can always fish for information.
say a seller says "rm1000 nego", u surely dont expect the seller to suddenly say rm500 best price... then u already know the seller is just messing about already in the listing.
but in the end, just the seller's loss if ppl see a stupidly high price listed...some potential buyers may not even bother to proceed and ask further...and may just make fun of the seller.

and whatever it is, at least a price is still listed.
seller is also always free to go sell elsewhere, tho most likely wherever they go also it will ask for price.

yes I agree with what you said. I myself also always put the actual price for the stuff I want to sell. (I only put offer me when I selling very old stuff that I really don't know what price should I sell them off, thus offer me.)

and I always immediately close the thread when I see "offer me / pm me / highly nego", holy seller

but I still need a confirmation, is it allowed or not. yes or no. so I can use the report button appropriately.

This post has been edited by CyrusWong: Sep 16 2016, 10:23 PM

sure accepted.
of cos ppl expect some form of nego based on price listed... and of cos got occasional lowballs.
again its just their loss if they put a stupid price and expect ppl to nego highly.
and as depending on item...there may also be others selling similar ones...so just seek for lowest one without having to waste time.

for now better just concentrate on those without any price listed.
at least we don't have to be mind readers to know roughly what they are asking for.

the highly nego part etc, if it really becomes an issue, then let the admins decide on if should proceed further with more action.

thanks for the clarification

Want to ask, i noticed in buy sell forum, some seller never disclose the pricing they r selling (new condition products) , but invite pm for best price.

With this new rules enforced, they kinda put the SRP there, but still PM for best price.

Is this consider legit under this new rules enforcement ?

It's annoying, but IMO legit.

Sometimes it's because suppliers have a minimum advertised price.

How about shitheads who replied "PM best price"?

We should weed them out too for neat and tidy thread.

Well such posts aren't breaking any forum rules.

I still don't understand why people can be so lazy to "PM best price"

If I want the product, I will PM the seller and negotiate rather than requesting the seller to PM me.

I have stop replying to these kind of ppl, 'u want u pm'