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post Aug 3 2016, 03:48 PM, updated 10y ago

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has anybody used Huper Optik ceramic 40 shield 6 mil? is it good tint? will gps work ok inside car with that tint?
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QUOTE(roadie @ Aug 3 2016, 03:48 PM)
has anybody used Huper Optik ceramic 40 shield 6 mil?  is it good tint? will gps work ok inside car with that tint?
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My car is on the Huper Optik Sech 60 for front windscreen and Ceramic 40 for all side and rear windscreens. GPS works inside the car, but in terms of heat rejection the Huper Optik is not as good as my previous V-kool Elite on another car.

Personally if heat rejection is your top priority, I would think that V-kool Elite would give you better heat rejection with the same VLT. If you need better heat rejection with Huper Optik, you need to go lower VLT such as the Ceramic 30 or 20 but that would be very dark and the risk of having problems with JPJ or the police is high.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 3 2016, 03:58 PM)
My car is on the Huper Optik Sech 60 for front windscreen and Ceramic 40 for all side and rear windscreens. GPS works inside the car, but in terms of heat rejection the Huper Optik is not as good as my previous V-kool Elite on another car.

Personally if heat rejection is your top priority, I would think that V-kool Elite would give you better heat rejection with the same VLT. If you need better heat rejection with Huper Optik, you need to go lower VLT such as the Ceramic 30 or 20 but that would be very dark and the risk of having problems with JPJ or the police is high.
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thanks for the info. i think vkool elite is over my budget.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 3 2016, 03:58 PM)
My car is on the Huper Optik Sech 60 for front windscreen and Ceramic 40 for all side and rear windscreens. GPS works inside the car, but in terms of heat rejection the Huper Optik is not as good as my previous V-kool Elite on another car.

Personally if heat rejection is your top priority, I would think that V-kool Elite would give you better heat rejection with the same VLT. If you need better heat rejection with Huper Optik, you need to go lower VLT such as the Ceramic 30 or 20 but that would be very dark and the risk of having problems with JPJ or the police is high.
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If your car has a biege interior, c 30 is just fine! Not very dark! Not recommended if your car is dark inteiror! I have c40 all round and regretted! Not dark enough as my car is grey interior! Coming from V40 on my previous ride, HO feels inferior! Of course, ' one cent worth one cent's goods!
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Bro, how much is vkool elite now?

A bit regret now, my car due to windscreen has been changed (changed to 3M forgot which one, just similar grade/better than previous solar guard). The rest of the windows are solar guard. Should take the best tint as changing tint film is tedious and more cost inccured. However, the workmanship for all are great, no bubbles or wrinkles anything.
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QUOTE(gold member @ Aug 3 2016, 10:40 PM)
Bro, how much is vkool elite now?
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rm3450 for honda city. guy said got discount price rm3021 until mid this month. if i change side windows to security film, price 4k+

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QUOTE(roadie @ Aug 5 2016, 09:18 AM)
rm3450 for honda city. guy said got discount price rm3021 until mid this month. if i change side windows to security film, price 4k+
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I look at this price and realised my decision few years back. Today I will make same decision. Chose solar guard, not breaking bank for few % of difference.
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QUOTE(gold member @ Aug 5 2016, 04:47 PM)
I look at this price and realised my decision few years back. Today I will make same decision. Chose solar guard, not breaking bank for few % of difference.
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how much solar guard?
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post Aug 6 2016, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(roadie @ Aug 5 2016, 09:18 AM)
rm3450 for honda city. guy said got discount price rm3021 until mid this month. if i change side windows to security film, price 4k+
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Perhaps you got a high quote? If I am not mistaken, the quoted price for a C-segment vehicle with V-Kool Elite (after discount) from a cheap installer is about RM2,100 to 2,500. That was about a year ago. Perhaps you could recheck. The prices will vary alot between shops as the mark-up with "official prices" of tints can be very high.

While the "official price" of the Huper Optik tint is about RM2,800, I only paid RM1,700. Actually can be had for RM1,600 as I didn't deal directly with installer but instead the sales advisor.
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post Aug 6 2016, 11:19 AM

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Yes, above RM3,000 for the cost of tinting a B-segment vehicle sounds a bit high. RM2,000 +/- sounds about right. For me, RM2,500 is about the max I would go with a C-segment vehicle.

My V-Kool Elite package came as a package with Nissan when I got the Sylphy. It certainly costs less than RM3,000. About RM2,500+/-. If I went directly with the V-kool the price might have been lower. However, since the tint package was offered by Nissan during the time I purchased the car, I just took the package for convenience sake since if there is any bad workmanship after the tint job, Nissan will be responsible for it. Saves the hassle.
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QUOTE(roadie @ Aug 5 2016, 09:18 AM)
rm3450 for honda city. guy said got discount price rm3021 until mid this month. if i change side windows to security film, price 4k+
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I think you got the high quote. I recently got a quote for Vkool Elite + non-security tint for Avanza for less than RM2.5K. Well, you know how big the Avanza glass area is.

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I'm on Huper Optik C20 and the heat rejection is comparable to V Kool elite. Basically, Huper is the best value for money tint I've used so far. In fact, anyone that wants a good price for it please PM me. I can give you a very competitive offer smile.gif
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QUOTE(coolstore @ Aug 5 2016, 05:05 PM)
how much solar guard?
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Around 1k, forgot which model, it is the best I can get without violates the JPJ rules.
Which later windscreen broke, I get this one:

QUOTE(uncle bob. @ Aug 5 2016, 11:43 PM)
buy 3M crystalline. proven 97% irr. rm600 for front windshield only.
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So my total package is around RM 1k + + 500 ~ 1600 there. But windscreen's changed.
Do note that for expensive tint, better to include in the insurance, if possible.
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Wingard royale, IRR 90%, TSER 60% user here.
After few reading on web before purchase, few have said need to check TSER instead if IRR % only.

For heat rejection its on par with my buddy 3M crystalline 97% IRR imho.

But im consider safety tint and smart tag compatible for daily use.

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Aug 6 2016, 03:46 PM)
I'm on Huper Optik C20 and the heat rejection is comparable to V Kool elite. Basically, Huper is the best value for money tint I've used so far. In fact, anyone that wants a good price for it please PM me. I can give you a very competitive offer smile.gif
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Mind to show photos of how dark it is?

Any issue with visibility when driving at night?
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QUOTE(Zack Styler @ Aug 7 2016, 12:40 PM)
Mind to show photos of how dark it is?

Any issue with visibility when driving at night?
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You can google for photos. No issues with visibility because these are all premium tints and properly designed smile.gif
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QUOTE(Zack Styler @ Aug 7 2016, 12:40 PM)
Mind to show photos of how dark it is?

Any issue with visibility when driving at night?
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I took this photo at the showroom when I installed the tint on my car. From left to right :- Sech 60 followed by C40, C30 then a partial C20. You can see how dark the C20 is next to the rest.

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I don't think you can use C20 for the front windscreen as it is too dark. One may consider C20 for the side and back windscreens but that too is already having a 50-50 chance with the police and JPJ. What is the current acceptable standard by JPJ or the police? The last time it was 75% VLT for front windscreen and 50% for side windscreens. Though people usually don't follow, but going down by approximately 10% is still rather safe as the difference is not too significant to the naked eye ie. 65% VLT for front windscreen and 40% for side and back windscreens.
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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Aug 3 2016, 09:39 PM)
If your car has a biege interior, c 30 is just fine! Not very dark! Not recommended if your car is dark inteiror!  I have c40 all round and regretted! Not dark enough as my car is grey interior!  Coming from V40 on  my previous ride, HO  feels inferior! Of course,  ' one cent worth one cent's goods!
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Actually, C30 is quite dark already if compared to C40. My car has a light beige interior too and at certain angles, the C40's shade is a little dark at times. I don't want to take the risk of having the JPJ or police stopping by car when they have an operasi on checking the tinting on cars. A colleague had chosen to ignore the rules and gone for a darker tint on his car (not Huper optik but another brand). He got stopped by the police not once but twice.

What is the new regulation for the tint? Last time it was 75% VLT for front windscreen and 50% VLT for sides and rear during my time. If I am not mistaken it was revised to 75% VLT front and 40% for sides and rear windscreens?
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By the way, when I installed the Huper Optik Sech 60 (front) and C40 (side and rear), they gave warranty for 5 years when the owner gets caught by the police or JPJ. If the owner gets caught, Huper Optik will settle the fine.

I think Huper Optik is confident to provide the warranty for the Huper Optik Sech 60 and C40 as the shade is not too dark. If darker tints C30 and below, Huper Optik will not provide this similar warranty. The owner will be at his own risk when he gets caught by the police/JPJ and will to bear the fine himself.

What is the current policy with Huper Optik? Will Huper Optik provide warranty with regards to police and JPJ fine with C30 and C20? Has anyone who installed C30 or C20 got into trouble with the police or JPJ?
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C20/C30 is obviously not street legal but if you want dark tints, you basically will go ahead biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Aug 6 2016, 03:46 PM)
I'm on Huper Optik C20 and the heat rejection is comparable to V Kool elite. Basically, Huper is the best value for money tint I've used so far. In fact, anyone that wants a good price for it please PM me. I can give you a very competitive offer smile.gif
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If HO C20 with 21% VLT has the same heat rejection as VKool Elite with 73% VLT it is not saying much. It takes a lot of technology and cost to have high VLT and high heat rejection.

Good luck with night driving if you install C20 on your front windscreen.

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Aug 7 2016, 08:07 PM)
If HO C20 with 21% VLT has the same heat rejection as VKool Elite with 73% VLT it is not saying much. It takes a lot of technology and cost to have high VLT and high heat rejection.

Good luck with night driving if you install C20 on your front windscreen.
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I have them at the sides, U shaped but I was told no issues even on the front. If people don't mind paying almost double the price for V Kool elite then why not smile.gif
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 7 2016, 05:00 PM)
Actually, C30 is quite dark already if compared to C40. My car has a light beige interior too and at certain angles, the C40's shade is a little dark at times. I don't want to take the risk of having the JPJ or police stopping by car when they have an operasi on checking the tinting on cars. A colleague had chosen to ignore the rules and gone for a darker tint on his car (not Huper optik but another brand). He got stopped by the police not once but twice.

What is the new regulation for the tint? Last time it was 75% VLT for front windscreen and 50% VLT for sides and rear during my time. If I am not mistaken it was revised to 75% VLT front and 40% for sides and rear windscreens?
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Mine is c40 all,round and even at a road blk, the cop did not stop me! My 's regulations changes all the time! Too lazy to take notice!
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 7 2016, 05:04 PM)
By the way, when I installed the Huper Optik Sech 60 (front) and C40 (side and rear), they gave warranty for 5 years when the owner gets caught by the police or JPJ. If the owner gets caught, Huper Optik will settle the fine.

I think Huper Optik is confident to provide the warranty for the Huper Optik Sech 60 and C40 as the shade is not too dark. If darker tints C30 and below, Huper Optik will not provide this similar warranty. The owner will be at his own risk when he gets caught by the police/JPJ and will to bear the fine himself.

What is the current policy with Huper Optik? Will Huper Optik provide warranty with regards to police and JPJ fine with C30 and C20? Has anyone who installed C30 or C20 got into trouble with the police or JPJ?
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I think the windscreen itself is not 100% VLT. Once we install a 70% VLT tinting, the end result will be lower than 70%.
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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Aug 9 2016, 03:59 PM)
Mine is c40 all,round and even at a road blk, the cop did not stop me! My 's regulations  changes all the time! Too lazy to take notice!
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Yes, similarly I had no issues with C40 as well. But C30, not so sure..I would say 50-50 with C30 as it is darker and risk is higher with teh cops. As for C20, that is surely playing with fire.
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QUOTE(clj @ Aug 9 2016, 04:20 PM)
I think the windscreen itself is not 100% VLT. Once we install a 70% VLT tinting, the end result will be lower than 70%.
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Huper Optik C70 Review:

I just installed HO C70 for my Front wind screen as the old one was removed when I replaced my windscreen. Previously using VKool Elite and all thensode windows are now still using VKool Elite that is already 7 years old. VKool Elite still good and reject heat very well, no discolouration what so ever.

As for HO C70, after 2 days of using and passing 8 toll plazas, initially for the few toll plaza the Smart Tag works, though a bit slowly, but after that it just stopped working under the C70 HO tint, battery life of my Smart Tag still good, so now I have to wind down window and hold up the Smart Tag to make it work. Was really surprised as the reason I opted for HO is for their Ceramic tint which say to work well with Smart Tag, but it’s not the case. Really inconvenient. Even the installer had slight doubt before installing, he told me errrr...HO has upgraded their tint and might not work well with Smart Tag. Too late now.

As for heat rejection, VKool definitely is better and the vision is also clearer compared to HO.

To whoever wanted to install HO C70 for FWS, take note and think twice.
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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 1 2018, 01:07 AM)
Huper Optik C70 Review:

I just installed HO C70 for my Front wind screen as the old one was removed when I replaced my windscreen. Previously using VKool Elite and all thensode windows are now still using VKool Elite that is already 7 years old. VKool Elite still good and reject heat very well, no discolouration what so ever.

As for HO C70, after 2 days of using and passing 8 toll plazas, initially for the few toll plaza the Smart Tag works, though a bit slowly, but after that it just stopped working under the C70 HO tint, battery life of my Smart Tag still good, so now I have to wind down window and hold up the Smart Tag to make it work. Was really surprised as the reason I opted for HO is for their Ceramic tint which say to work well with Smart Tag, but it’s not the case. Really inconvenient. Even the installer had slight doubt before installing, he told me errrr...HO has upgraded their tint and might not work well with Smart Tag. Too late now.

As for heat rejection, VKool definitely is better and the vision is also clearer compared to HO.

To whoever wanted to install HO C70 for FWS, take note and think twice.
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I can sense a it of regret there which is comprehensible. It is certainly inconvenient to keep winding down the windscreen when the vehicle is going through Smart Tag booths, especially since the vehicle has been passing through these booths without any issues with the previous V-Kool Elite. It is quite surprising that the Huper Optik C70 cannot work with the Smart Tag device since the Huper Optik Sech 60 on my vehicle works with Smart Tag since Day 1.

Perhaps wait for few more days to see if the C70 will work with Smart Tag, or if the vision will become clearer since your Huper Optik tint is only 2 days old. If there is no improvement after 7 days from day of installation, then your findings on the inferior heat rejection, vision and Smart Tag performance with Huper Optik would be more or less confirmed, and the information on the "upgraded" C70 tint by the tint installer might hold water. Though not sure what aspect was improved since heat rejection and vision were still reported to be poor.

FWIW I have share my experience on Huper Optik vs V-Kool Elite previously on other threads. I am on Huper Optik Sech 60(front) and C40 (everywhere else). Even when new, the heat rejection on Huper Optik is not as good as V-Kool Elite. After almost 5 years now, the car feels like a burning oven every time I enter the car under the hot sun. The V-kool Elite certainly feels much cooler to me. The hue or shade of the V-kool tint is different from the Huper Optik, Sech 60 in my case. The V-Kool Elite has slight greenish hue whereas the Huper Optik Sech60 has a brownish hue. Both Huper Optik Sech60 and V-kool Elite on the front windscreen look clear to me. The only difference is the difference in hue whereby the greenish V-kool Elite feels more comfortable to the eye. A matter of preference.

As for Smart Tag, the Huper Optik Sech60 works 100% on my car, so there is no issue with Smart Tag. With my previous V-Kool Elite, the car also works with Smart Tag but on rare occasions maybe 1% to 2% it will get stuck at Smart Tag. The only issue I had with V-Kool Elite is GPS signal as almost 50% of the time I cannot get GPS inside the car when I wanted to use the Drive app on my smartphone. With Huper Optik there is no issue with GPS signal.

In summary, I would recommend that you wait for another 5 days to see if things will change for the better. If the condition doesn't improve after 5 days, then your experience on the Huper Optik C70 would be permanent.

The tint selection on my previous car would be dependent on both heat rejection and GPS signal. Both are important to me but if I were to choose one criteria, it would surely be GPS or Smart Tag signal friendly which would take precedence over everything else. Both Smart Tag and GPS app on smartphones would need to work with the tint. Currently both devices work with the Huper Optik tint on my car although in terms of heat rejection my car feels like an oven and not as cool as V-kool Elite. The current regulations permit VLT 30% on the rear side and rear windscreens so C30 can be chosen for those windscreens. Perhaps the car will be cooler if C30 is selected (instead of C40).


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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 7 2016, 04:52 PM)
I took this photo at the showroom when I installed the tint on my car. From left to right :- Sech 60 followed by C40, C30 then a partial C20. You can see how dark the C20 is next to the rest.

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I don't think you can use C20 for the front windscreen as it is too dark. One may consider C20 for the side and back windscreens but that too is already having a 50-50 chance with the police and JPJ. What is the current acceptable standard by JPJ or the police? The last time it was 75% VLT for front windscreen and 50% for side windscreens. Though people usually don't follow, but going down by approximately 10% is still rather safe as the difference is not too significant to the naked eye ie. 65% VLT for front windscreen and 40% for side and back windscreens.
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It's good to see this photo which I posted previously since I've deleted this photo on my hard drive long time ago. Looking at the shade of the C30 which is considerably darker than C40, the heat rejection would likely be better.

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From HU catalog. C30 has TSER of 63% vs C40 of 55%

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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 1 2018, 01:07 AM)
Huper Optik C70 Review:

I just installed HO C70 for my Front wind screen as the old one was removed when I replaced my windscreen. Previously using VKool Elite and all thensode windows are now still using VKool Elite that is already 7 years old. VKool Elite still good and reject heat very well, no discolouration what so ever.

As for HO C70, after 2 days of using and passing 8 toll plazas, initially for the few toll plaza the Smart Tag works, though a bit slowly, but after that it just stopped working under the C70 HO tint, battery life of my Smart Tag still good, so now I have to wind down window and hold up the Smart Tag to make it work. Was really surprised as the reason I opted for HO is for their Ceramic tint which say to work well with Smart Tag, but it’s not the case. Really inconvenient. Even the installer had slight doubt before installing, he told me errrr...HO has upgraded their tint and might not work well with Smart Tag. Too late now.

As for heat rejection, VKool definitely is better and the vision is also clearer compared to HO.

To whoever wanted to install HO C70 for FWS, take note and think twice.
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For forumer sake, I need to update on my situation above.

After 1 week of usage on HO C70 tint which failed at Smart Tag lanes 90% of the time (even after changing to new Energizer batteries). I can't take it anymore and I returned to the installer, who is also as puzzled as me how come HO Ceramic Tint main selling point is for its Smart Tag/electronic friendly characteristic compared to metallic based tint such as VKool. To be fair, only Smart Tag signal was blocked, autogate/condo RFID boom gate/ Phone GPS all works fine.

I took out the HO tint after 1 week usage, though my heart ache like mad as the tint was done perfectly with good workmanship and I got use to the color hue, but had to take it out due to the inconveniences of having to wind down my car window every time I pass the toll. I went back to the installer and claim warranty, they took out the tint, and I top up money to install VKool Elite, as I don't want to take any more chances with HO tint anymore.

VKool works fine with Smart Tag now, but autogate/condo RFID signal got blocked. Well, there is no perfect world I guess. Still like the color hue of VKool, greenish, very pleasing to the eyes.
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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 18 2018, 11:45 AM)
For forumer sake, I need to update on my situation above.

After 1 week of usage on HO C70 tint which failed at Smart Tag lanes 90% of the time (even after changing to new Energizer batteries). I can't take it anymore and I returned to the installer, who is also as puzzled as me how come HO Ceramic Tint main selling point is for its Smart Tag/electronic friendly characteristic compared to metallic based tint such as VKool. To be fair, only Smart Tag signal was blocked, autogate/condo RFID boom gate/ Phone GPS all works fine.

I took out the HO tint after 1 week usage, though my heart ache like mad as the tint was done perfectly with good workmanship and I got use to the color hue, but had to take it out due to the inconveniences of having to wind down my car window every time I pass the toll. I went back to the installer and claim warranty, they took out the tint, and I top up money to install VKool Elite, as I don't want to take any more chances with HO tint anymore.

VKool works fine with Smart Tag now, but autogate/condo RFID signal got blocked. Well, there is no perfect world I guess. Still like the color hue of VKool, greenish, very pleasing to the eyes.
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You remove the whole car OR just the FWS?? How much for V cool Elite FWS ONLY???

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How much for tinting whole Proton Persona 2010?
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