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post Feb 28 2017, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(dreamkiller @ Feb 28 2017, 02:17 PM)
Not sure about the % requirement. But I'm glad that those authorities gave consent for residential rate at Trefoil (SOFO). I think my owner did apply to them before.
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Is this a successful example of conversion?
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post Mar 11 2017, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(akurinduko @ Feb 28 2017, 02:18 PM)
I already discussed with head of migration unit in syabas...whateva it is..those who want to convert...JMB must request to convert the land title from commercial to resident...must go thru PBT...else....have to pay thru either JMB rate, charge back to back or higher rate....those who able to migrate, maybe their origin land title is resident
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i think the utilities rate is base on the usage if you refer to tnb and syabas website,
they are many apartment built on commercial title but utilities still base on resi rate.

same, if a landed house (resi title) but used as showroom (commi), the utilities will then base on commi
so, if the building eg soho,service apartment is use as resi , the utilities shud be resi rate too

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post Mar 11 2017, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(dreamkiller @ Feb 28 2017, 02:17 PM)
Not sure about the % requirement. But I'm glad that those authorities gave consent for residential rate at Trefoil (SOFO). I think my owner did apply to them before.
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i think the rate is base on usage as per their website

“Domestic Consumer” means a consumer occupying a private dwelling, which is not used as a hotel, boarding house or used for the purpose of carrying out any form of business, trade, professional activities or services.
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post Mar 11 2017, 09:47 PM

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post Mar 12 2017, 06:57 AM

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QUOTE(lucerne @ Mar 11 2017, 06:16 PM)
i think the utilities rate is base on the usage if you refer to tnb and syabas website, 
they are many apartment built on commercial title but utilities still base on resi rate.

same, if a landed house (resi title) but used as showroom (commi), the utilities will then base on commi
so, if the building eg soho,service apartment is use as resi , the utilities shud be resi rate too
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TNB is follow the resi rate but not for syabas especially got shop lot downstair ..these issue a lot of people still unsatisfied with these term...
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post Mar 12 2017, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(akurinduko @ Mar 12 2017, 06:57 AM)
TNB is follow the resi rate but not for syabas especially got shop lot downstair ..these issue a lot of people still unsatisfied with these term...
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yes agreed, especially strata property where initially it was bulk meter (under developer name), but once upstair resi have individual strata title have been issued, it should be able to covert to resi rate, the meter now transferred from the developer 's master title to individual title.
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post Mar 13 2017, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Tokok_King @ Feb 28 2017, 10:23 PM)
From what I knew, water tariff is really out of question for conversion, while im not sure how do-able izzit for jmb to do the land title conversion.
Maybe someone could share any successful cases?

Fortunately, water bill should be the least of concern for owners compare to electricity bill or phone/internet bill. I mean like how much you could be paying for the water bill monthly?
I suppose should be lower than 50 buck per month at most?

I would rank the priorities as such;
1. electric tariff
2. phone & internet bill
3. syabas/water tariff
4. assessment rate
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True. Electric bills can run into the hundreds
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post Apr 24 2017, 05:49 PM

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post Apr 25 2017, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(scchan107 @ Aug 3 2016, 09:50 AM)

Case study (my own property)-

Apartment build on commercial land.

TNB is on residential rates since day 1 VP

while Syabas does not allow to convert (tried to appeal as JMB) from bulk meter to individual residential meter (with residential rate). Management charging RM2 per m3 , luckily not using much water

Reason? Master title include shop lot.
Just gotten strata title this year, perhaps can try our luck again.
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Do u mind disclose which SA ? Can let me know if u don't mind, I m still doing survey on buying a service apartment notworthy.gif because I saw some good deal 400k+++ wub.gif

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Case study (my own property)-

Apartment build on commercial land.

TNB is on residential rates since day 1 VP

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post Apr 25 2017, 03:15 PM

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I have similar case to this post owner. Im about to collect my apartment key this week and developer ask me to settle all excess payment first. Then I found out, my "Electricity Deposit Charges" is RM 1620 + "Additional Deposit Charges" RM 615. Total is about RM 2.2k Holy shxt. Even my water deposit is RM 200.

Staff from Developer side told me that it is commercial land tariff. I was like, I bought a residential apartment & you were telling me that its Commercial land? It has NO shoplots & only one block of apartment. I'm so confused.

So my question is the same, will it take long time to do conversion to Residential Tariff ? Is this done individually?


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post Oct 9 2017, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(NickyEng @ May 24 2017, 10:19 AM)
I have similar case to this post owner. Im about to collect my apartment key this week and developer ask me to settle all excess payment first. Then I found out, my "Electricity Deposit Charges" is RM 1620 + "Additional Deposit Charges" RM 615. Total is about RM 2.2k  Holy shxt.  Even my water deposit is RM 200.

Staff from Developer side told me that it is commercial land tariff. I was like, I bought a residential apartment & you were telling me that its Commercial land? It has NO shoplots & only one block of apartment. I'm so confused.

So my question is the same, will it take long time to do conversion to Residential Tariff ? Is this done individually?
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Did you manage to convert the tariff? How long does it takes?
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post Oct 9 2017, 05:35 PM

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interested to find out as well
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post Oct 9 2017, 06:10 PM

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any clear solution yet ?
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post May 31 2018, 06:59 PM

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I wonder...if I were to buy an office lot and live there like an apartment.... can I apply for TNB and IWK to charge me home residential rates?
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post May 31 2018, 09:43 PM

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Tried converting water at klang office but cannot do so becuz under commercial title. But electric can convert to residential.


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post Jun 1 2018, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(ZoomGarde @ May 31 2018, 09:43 PM)
Tried converting water at klang office but cannot do so becuz under commercial title. But electric can convert to residential.
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Water and assessments cant change.....
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post Jun 1 2018, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 1 2018, 12:01 AM)
Water and assessments cant change.....
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Good thing electric can change as it consume the most among utility bills
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QUOTE(ZoomGarde @ Jun 1 2018, 01:14 AM)
Good thing electric can change as it consume the most among utility bills
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best to do it yourself. dun rely on JBM or JBA to do this.

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