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 Ceramic coating or Film wrap?, Best ceramic vs Xpel Ultimate

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garrick86
post Aug 3 2016, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(windskill @ Aug 3 2016, 02:15 PM)
I think the coating warranty doesn't cover waterspot/watermark issues. Have to go for 6-month/annual maintenance to clean-up these. That's the fuss part.
No la, PPF can last roughly 5 years. But usually tycoon/really-rich-guy will go for full car wrapping because it's too expensive already. People usually do PPF on hood/bumper because PPF provide good resistant to stone-chip.
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I had both CeramicPro 9H coating and Xpel Ultimate from GGuard on my car.

Need to know:
1. Coating cannot prevent stonechip (Xpel does with self-healing)
2. Both get watermarks due to improper wash and acid rain (Ceramicpro provide free maintenance for watermarks)(Xpel can also get water marks but can be removed easily too)
3. Coating can get swirls from machine-wash/bangla wash due to improper washing techniques. (Xpel is okay with all kind of washes as it is self-healing)
4. Cost for whole car, coating is cheaper, Xpel is slightly higher for whole car (recommended if you have Ferrari) and recommended for front part.
5. Both depends on warranty
6. Xpel best for black car as the swirl is easy to see, white car might yellow after 7-10 years of warranty and improper care.
7. There are many other ppf but make sure the brand is reputable as cheaper ppf tends to yellow/lose self-healing effect in short time
8. Coating wise CeramicPro Sunway has the best service and professional. GGuard Glenmarie provide best/original ppf like Xpel and also coating too.

If your car is expensive PPF is recommended as the original paint is always better.

Respraying might not give you the paint that is near to original paint as the original factory paint normally required higher temp to cure.
The color can be near but the paint quality will be different.

With all the plastic parts and glass in your car, curing with high temp is not possible as it might melt your other parts.
In factory, the original paint is normally spray onto car body with frame only, and can bake at high temp to cure it.

That is the reason why expensive cars like Ferrari all wrapped with Xpel to protect the original paint, resale value also much higher.

Just my 2 cents bro.

This post has been edited by garrick86: Aug 4 2016, 11:05 AM
garrick86
post Aug 4 2016, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(IpohLad @ Aug 4 2016, 06:55 AM)
Very detail review. Thank you. Our is just a volvo. But respray the car is not an option either.
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What i would recommend to you is:

1. Easy maintenance: Coat your car with CeramicPro 9H, so far best service/product I have seen, either the RM2k+ for 3 layer or RM 4k+ for 6 layers.

2. Stonechip protection: Wrap front with Xpel Ultimate from GGuard (the only authorised reseller in Malaysia), either, bumper around (RM2k) or full front bonnet around RM6k+

Actually both CeramicPro and GGuard also provide both coating + ppf. You can negotiate with them and compare.
garrick86
post Aug 4 2016, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Aug 4 2016, 11:52 AM)
Unnecessary IMO. It does not protect against stone chips, scratches, bird poo, tree sap, acid rain, watermarks or UV light discolouring your paint. You also need to take good care of the coating including using special shampoo and cloth in some cases. It is supposed to protect your paintwork but you need more care to protect the coating than the paintwork.

Instead of coating just apply a layer of wax every month.
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I would say so too. There are so many different coatings from different supplier, most will be different spec but all required effort to protect the coating.

Normally polishing/compound would actually remove parts of your clear coat if the bird poo, water warks, dirt has went deep into the clear coat.

Coating is like a sacrificial layer on top of your clear coat.
With coating, you have additional layer on top of the clear coat that can be removed/maintained without removing the original clear coat on the car.
It is good for normal user without experience of diy car wash/diy polish or dont care about car care.

If you are a car care enthusiast ie Meguiar's fan that spend alot of time into DIY car maintenance, you would know how to clean/protect your car yourself and coating is definitely be useless to you. You would wash, clay, wax, polish, compound the dirt before it gets deep into the clear coat and maintain with wax that last 3-6 months (due to Malaysia weather).

So for coating wise, choose a vendor that provide free maintenance service such as watermark removal or minor touch up etc.

There are vendors that charge for every maintenance and there are better ones that do it for free under warranty.
garrick86
post Aug 4 2016, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(IpohLad @ Aug 4 2016, 12:29 PM)
Thank you for the great advise. Very appreciated. GGuard is the 1 wanted RM18k for whole car wrap.
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Haha no point wrapping whole car if it is not ferrari, just do front part will helps alot.

I think if you Xpel frombumper + coating with gguard it will be cheaper.
There is a similar package with ceramicpro + magnuspro too.
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post Aug 4 2016, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(IpohLad @ Aug 4 2016, 03:16 PM)
The front and back definitely is a must.

But the doors and the lower side sill need to as well because its not black matte plastic. We going off road sometime.

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Since your car is black (yellowing doesnt matter), maybe you can contact MagnusPro for full wrap, price will be definitely cheaper than original Xpel. Quality/warranty wise im not too sure.

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Or you can try asking for 3M scotchgard or Oraguard ppf around.
garrick86
post Aug 5 2016, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(a.h.wan @ Aug 4 2016, 04:43 PM)
full body wrapping is good - on an expensive car. unless want to change color. coating on paint is not worth IMO. i coat just a tiny area of glossy plastic at my b-pillar because that part is black and annoyingly easy to get scratched.

anyway, just want some opinion. is front bumper wrap for white car recommended? afraid that the color will not age nicely - bumper looks newer than body. then again, front part is really hard to take care of.
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Yes, if you have a nice new car it would definitely be recommended. Stonechips on black/white paint is very obvious.

However, if your car already got stonechips then no point wrapping it anymore.

Front wrapping from minimal Bumper Only > Bikini (Bumper + half front bonnet) > Full hood (Bumper+Full front bonnet)

Bikini is ugly as you can see a clear line. If you car is low (not suv) then full bonnet is recommended as the lower car are more prone to stonechips on front bonnet.

 

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