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 Ceramic coating or Film wrap?, Best ceramic vs Xpel Ultimate

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TSIpohLad
post Aug 2 2016, 11:27 AM, updated 10y ago

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Apologies if someone ask this before.

Anyone use ceramic coating to protect their bodywork or using clear self healing film?

Big SUV need some pamper. Have a few quotes on ceramic coating which a lot cheaper vs clear film. Heard it wouldn't last as long as the film.

Any recommendation around KL or Johor would be nice.

Thanks in advance for info.
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post Aug 2 2016, 03:24 PM

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coating to me is bs. some even charge near to 2k for coating.

rather get the money to respray the whole car
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post Aug 2 2016, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Aug 2 2016, 03:24 PM)
coating to me is bs. some even charge near to 2k for coating.

rather get the money to respray the whole car
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^this...... i would rather respray the car, coating is to me a waste of your money
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post Aug 2 2016, 04:35 PM

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I'm contemplating on whether to do coating may it be glass or ceramic either. Any input guys? Gtechniq quoted 4k for the 'crystal serum' package that comes with 7 years warranty lol. Point noted on using that 4k for respray however would like to hear from those who had done the coating and how's the outcome?
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post Aug 2 2016, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Aug 2 2016, 08:24 AM)
coating to me is bs. some even charge near to 2k for coating.

rather get the money to respray the whole car
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Thats cheap. I just got a quote for rm15k wrap the whole car.
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post Aug 2 2016, 06:23 PM

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4k for coating? Seriously???


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I also thinking to do coating just for the sake of easier to wipe out the sticky dirt
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post Aug 2 2016, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(kirakun @ Aug 2 2016, 04:35 PM)
I'm contemplating on whether to do coating may it be glass or ceramic either. Any input guys? Gtechniq quoted 4k for the 'crystal serum' package that comes with 7 years warranty lol. Point noted on using that 4k for respray however would like to hear from those who had done the coating and how's the outcome?
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i have not used/done any GTechniq coating before, but Crystal Serum is really tough. Only wetsanding can remove the layer, not by normal polishing/compounding.

4k with 7 years warranty, coating inside outside, plus more than roughly 10 hours workmanship. It's up to your judgement to decide whether it worth the value smile.gif

If you have extra budget, of course film wrap is the way to go haha.
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post Aug 2 2016, 07:50 PM

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two different material for different purpose

to protect paint use wrap film

to enhance/looks the paint use coating
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post Aug 2 2016, 08:13 PM

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buy a cheap bottle of maguire quick wax and spend 10 minutes to wax every month. Regardless how much money you are willing to spend, you still can't control the world.

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post Aug 2 2016, 09:44 PM

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7 years warranty is BS in my opinion. Will you be keeping the car for 7 years? Will the business still be around for 7 years? Even if they are still around will you bother about your car's appearance after 3 years? Even if you bother and they are still around will they continue to entertain you for 7 years? The last point is important because the reality sometimes does not match the warranty. My friend went back to recoat twice in 3 years during his 5 years warranty. After the second time the boss told him politely that since he has claimed twice he should not come again. So believe 7 years at your own risk.
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post Aug 3 2016, 01:38 AM

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Ask them what it's covered for 7 years. It's plain rubbish most of the time and they don't even cover watermarks! Why not you spend 4K wrapping your car and just remove it off after 7 years, you get the same beautify original paint i:)
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i try once back in 2008 or 2009, one simple layer of coating ...... result unacceptable as my white car become yelloish, from there onward never try coating anymore, but that is last decade techology
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post Aug 3 2016, 05:51 AM

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QUOTE(saikia2046 @ Aug 2 2016, 08:13 PM)
buy a cheap bottle of maguire quick wax and spend 10 minutes to wax every month. Regardless how much money you are willing to spend, you still can't control the world.

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How u wax whole car in 10 minutes? So fast!!!! Am i doing it wrongly?? Teach me how u did it in 10 minutes?
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post Aug 3 2016, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Aug 2 2016, 03:24 PM)
coating to me is bs. some even charge near to 2k for coating.

rather get the money to respray the whole car
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hurmm..make sense.. is it better go for normal polish n wax regularly?
Karenalvin
post Aug 3 2016, 09:16 AM

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paint protection coating is indeed mostly BS. a good clear coat is going to be a much much better protection. If i were to spend a few K doing a coating, I rather put the money to send to a good paint shop for clear coating.

the other thing not many people discuss is the actual quality of the factory paint. for example, Honda is know for very soft clear coat that does not wear well compared to many of its european counterparts. so again, i will prefer to spend on enhancing the paint.

remember, your clear coat/paint is to protect your car and having a coating to protect the protector is like wearing a condom to protect your condom
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post Aug 3 2016, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Aug 3 2016, 01:38 AM)
Ask them what it's covered for 7 years. It's plain rubbish most of the time and they don't even cover watermarks! Why not you spend 4K wrapping your car and just remove it off after 7 years, you get the same beautify original paint i:)
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The problem with this strategy is the film wrap is not going to last 7 years. I think it may last only 1 year plus before it looks bad and you need to remove it.

Film wrap is even more expensive and wasting money than coating.
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post Aug 3 2016, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(vindroid @ Aug 3 2016, 08:43 AM)
Do by one panel at a time and use spray sealent/wax.
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How u spray wax? U r using spray type of wax?
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post Aug 3 2016, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Aug 3 2016, 01:38 AM)
Ask them what it's covered for 7 years. It's plain rubbish most of the time and they don't even cover watermarks! Why not you spend 4K wrapping your car and just remove it off after 7 years, you get the same beautify original paint i:)
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I think the coating warranty doesn't cover waterspot/watermark issues. Have to go for 6-month/annual maintenance to clean-up these. That's the fuss part.

QUOTE(KennyKB @ Aug 3 2016, 10:31 AM)
The problem with this strategy is the film wrap is not going to last 7 years. I think it may last only 1 year plus before it looks bad and you need to remove it.

Film wrap is even more expensive and wasting money than coating.
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No la, PPF can last roughly 5 years. But usually tycoon/really-rich-guy will go for full car wrapping because it's too expensive already. People usually do PPF on hood/bumper because PPF provide good resistant to stone-chip.

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post Aug 3 2016, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(windskill @ Aug 3 2016, 02:15 PM)
I think the coating warranty doesn't cover waterspot/watermark issues. Have to go for 6-month/annual maintenance to clean-up these. That's the fuss part.
No la, PPF can last roughly 5 years. But usually tycoon/really-rich-guy will go for full car wrapping because it's too expensive already. People usually do PPF on hood/bumper because PPF provide good resistant to stone-chip.
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I had both CeramicPro 9H coating and Xpel Ultimate from GGuard on my car.

Need to know:
1. Coating cannot prevent stonechip (Xpel does with self-healing)
2. Both get watermarks due to improper wash and acid rain (Ceramicpro provide free maintenance for watermarks)(Xpel can also get water marks but can be removed easily too)
3. Coating can get swirls from machine-wash/bangla wash due to improper washing techniques. (Xpel is okay with all kind of washes as it is self-healing)
4. Cost for whole car, coating is cheaper, Xpel is slightly higher for whole car (recommended if you have Ferrari) and recommended for front part.
5. Both depends on warranty
6. Xpel best for black car as the swirl is easy to see, white car might yellow after 7-10 years of warranty and improper care.
7. There are many other ppf but make sure the brand is reputable as cheaper ppf tends to yellow/lose self-healing effect in short time
8. Coating wise CeramicPro Sunway has the best service and professional. GGuard Glenmarie provide best/original ppf like Xpel and also coating too.

If your car is expensive PPF is recommended as the original paint is always better.

Respraying might not give you the paint that is near to original paint as the original factory paint normally required higher temp to cure.
The color can be near but the paint quality will be different.

With all the plastic parts and glass in your car, curing with high temp is not possible as it might melt your other parts.
In factory, the original paint is normally spray onto car body with frame only, and can bake at high temp to cure it.

That is the reason why expensive cars like Ferrari all wrapped with Xpel to protect the original paint, resale value also much higher.

Just my 2 cents bro.

This post has been edited by garrick86: Aug 4 2016, 11:05 AM

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