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Apple_DarreN
post Sep 27 2016, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(Gilthoniel @ Sep 27 2016, 04:15 PM)
Sigh... What have I done?

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A childhood dream fulfilled.

But bye bye to my so called 5 year hiatus. On hindsight... 5 years is a freaking long time! 😂
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Wear it in good health! That piece looks more subtle than the maxi GMT BLNR and black one
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post Oct 3 2016, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(tjwn @ Oct 3 2016, 01:41 AM)
This design is paying tribute to the marine chronometer which was use as a "GPS" during the 18th century...not homage to DW sweat.gif
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this design is very common among the watchmaker

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it was a joke lol. DW is the no.1 thing to be said when trolling and joking around here
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post Oct 4 2016, 06:24 PM

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Steinhart at it again

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https://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/chronogr...hronograph.html
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post Oct 17 2016, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Aiman131 @ Oct 15 2016, 03:40 PM)
Hi. Im thinking buy p2/02 sevenfriday for my father. Issit hard to look the time? Sorry. Noob here
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QUOTE(Naka7a @ Oct 17 2016, 01:20 PM)
How old is your dad? I don't think older people would like a funky looking watch though
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Agree with that

Perhaps within your (sevenfriday) budget you could get him a Frederique Constant watch instead? Classic design plus its Swiss Made
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post Nov 6 2016, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Nov 5 2016, 04:52 PM)
Picked this up yesterday..

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Wear it in good health! Box is huge
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post Nov 6 2016, 06:54 PM

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Just wanted to share this out while it's getting sorted with relevant parties.

My business account, DialsAndStraps, was recently deleted on instagram over a trademark/copyright infringement. The company? International Watchman.

I had read about him back a year or so about the lawsuit in which he trademarked the word "NATO" and there was a lawsuit with him against 18 other NATO strap sellers. Yes, 18 others.

And apparently he won the case, under stupid and fuc8ked up reasons in which many watch strap enthusiasts on WUS condemn it. A quick search on his webstore shows how incompetent he is while running a business.

Keywords for google : International Watchman llc, nato strap lawsuit

Apparently he is now targeting small ebay sellers, Instagram webstore and FB pages just like me and are shutting down us one by one. Pathetic trademark troll lel.

Funny thing about instagram is that they sent me an email stating a violation of the trademark on 423am, another one on the same time on 423am stating that they deleted off my account. Talk about efficiency

Anyways, currently sorting it out with Instagram to get back AT LEAST my trade account name.

http://www.watchfreeks.com/41-straps-other...r-issues-2.html

Just wanted to share how fucked up a person can be and how desperate he can get. Let's see whether does he try to sue Omega and Tudor over the usage of the word NATO as well.

edit: any lawyers can advise whether if I list the ad "NATOs/NATOS" would it be an infringement as well?

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post Nov 7 2016, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Gilthoniel @ Nov 6 2016, 09:39 PM)
Is his trademark valid internationally?

PM me if u need help. I have a friend who's a lawyer who deals with all these kind of shit.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Nov 6 2016, 10:56 PM)
Think it's a patent troll thing which can be hard to fight at times.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 6 2016, 11:03 PM)
his trademark even if not valid internationally... is still valid on those sites like ebay, insta etc as they are hosted in the states.

basically up against a conman la, who doesn't seem to have anything for sale now... and is just trying to make a living from others.

but there is hope if u got the balls... like natostrapco won against the conman...and whose case u can bring up as supporting arguments to ebay.
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QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Nov 7 2016, 10:41 AM)

Apple_DarreN man, that blows. From experience, it is infinitely difficult trying to get FB to respond- whether for troubleshooting, or even reversing incorrect decisions. I am in a similar boat myself with FB, albeit not as serious as your case. Considering FB owns IG, you may have trouble trying to get in touch with the folks behind IG. Good luck, bud.
His trademark should be valid in the US only

NatoStrapCo didn't win the case and most retailers in the state now have to pay that troll in order to continue to use the term "NATO" to sell their products.

What he's now is just a trademark ass clown troll, its not like he's doing it in order to get more sales for his shitty website but rather just for fun? If he is interested in pursuing his trademark claims he would bring them to court but he certainly isn't now.

FB page is still okay, I actually didn't publish it lol. Still waiting for Instagram's reply, whatever it is I just want the name back lol.

So much for capitalism.

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post Nov 7 2016, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 7 2016, 12:25 PM)
so are u saying natostrapco are paying that conman?
guess u just call it mil strap like how other sites are doing...or u set up a site which i guess they cannot touch...like strapcode.com tongue.gif
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Yup, paying them as per usage of the word

If you see the retailers they have it down the bottom of their webpage

" NATO® is a registered trademark
of International Watchman, Inc. "

stuff like that ^

setting up an own webpage shouldn't be a problem as we're out of the states. Ebay retailer's on the other hand have to resort to not shipping to US for the nato straps
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post Nov 7 2016, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Nov 7 2016, 01:35 PM)
Thanks to all for your reply.

Just headed over to Rolex and bought this for myself😜😜😜😜
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Congrats! The ND Sub is amazing. Targeting as my first Rollie biggrin.gif


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post Nov 7 2016, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Naka7a @ Nov 7 2016, 02:02 PM)
But I don't see that in the omega page?
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Don't think they dare to do that to Omega, probably cause a bigger stir and they might have their trademark reversed. As Omega kaya can afford the lawsuit to counter sue

Crown&Buckle & NatoStrapCO has them listed, and a few other retailers
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Nov 7 2016, 02:40 PM)
Thanks man. I was always eyeing on getting a Sub and my parents decided to get me one for my graduation. Really wanted the Submariner with Date but having it being priced about 6k over the No Date version just made me ponder if it was worth forking out that much of cash.
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Had a teh tarik with my customer the other day where he mention that if you daily wear the sub its best to get a date one for the convenience of the function. But personally even if I were to wear it daily I wouldn't take the SubC Date as well, prefer the symmetrical look of the ND. Each to their own I guess, but ND less flashy so it's good for my age as well haha
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post Nov 10 2016, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 9 2016, 04:43 PM)
ipad magnet cannot do much harm.
will need to be much stronger.

btw, i was looking at strapcode... they use nato and g10... and also no mention of trademark owner...
so guess international companies are free to use it... like omega also.
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Companies outside of US is alright, not subjected to the trademark issue especially those vendors on their own websites. Platforms like IG, eBay and FB would be different

Anyways I managed to get back my Instagram account. Deleted all related keywords to prevent any future problems
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post Nov 20 2016, 06:26 PM

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Ready stock here but it's selling at a premium at 70K+
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post Nov 24 2016, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Nov 22 2016, 11:32 PM)
After some considerations and lotsa thoughts and some deeper thoughts I'll probably go for the BBB this year and the rest should be KIV.

Now after many places and some strings to pull I manage to get hold of the shop to bring in the last piece of ETA BBB. And me being me suddenly thought the new in house BBB ain't that bad either.

So now I'm confused between the rose and a smiley dial or the new shield Logo BBB

So so confuse and both does look lovely to me ...

If it's you guys which would you pick?
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I'd say go for the ETA, read online about the new movement and apparently if there's any flaw on the movement you have to send it back to Rolex (HQ at the mean time I think, as not all the watchmaker go through training on the new movement yet) themselves to fix it. Being a new movement people should see this coming. Couldn't find the thread on WUS that talked about this

Oh and the in house BBB has rivet styled bracelet. Looks weird imo when Tudor "modernised" the look on the dial but has that vintage rivet bracelet on.


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QUOTE(bakry @ Nov 24 2016, 04:59 PM)
Haaiiippp... where did u get urs? online?
are u in KL? can look see?
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post Nov 24 2016, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(bakry @ Nov 24 2016, 06:15 PM)
Same questions.

Beli mana? You in kl? can look see? lol
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Yes in KL.

Bought directly from Steinhart, I don't see what's the problem ordering online other than not being able to try it on. Having trust on the brand is really important and that's about it

One thing to note is just the straight lugs and how it tapers and sits on the wrist.
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post Nov 25 2016, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Nov 25 2016, 06:08 PM)
bro, mind to share you opinion on this Vintage Red?

the OVR 2.0 looks even more vintage, but the opinion on grey dial seems split
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Don't like the 2.0, I think they went too much to try and get that vintage look by having the dial to grey

This imo looks perfect with a blend of vintage and modern elements to it


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post Nov 25 2016, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Nov 25 2016, 05:09 PM)
Hey guys. Should I get an AP ROO Volcano or Bumblebee? I feel like adding some color to my collection.

Will these watches age well? Spending around 100k, so just want to make sure that these watches will age well..
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Why not the safari? I think between this 3 the Safari would age the best due to its classic appearance. Volcano and Bumblebee with its funky colours might not suite others in the future
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Nov 25 2016, 06:43 PM)
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Safari is a bit bland. I would like some colour to my collection. Most of the stuff in my collection are black and grey. Thought it would be nice to have a funky yellow or orange.

But it will still be awhile before I pull the trigger as I only managed to save up 50k so far..
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Personally I think having that funky color would break how it would age well.

Something that ages well especially in design wise are usually those that keep things simple, per say many vintage Rolex pieces that are now highly sought after (Take the PN Daytona for example) are often very simple in terms of the touches in design, there's no hanky panky around with colours like that the volcano and bumbleebee is doing

Just my pov

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post Nov 25 2016, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Nov 25 2016, 09:00 PM)
I think the plus point after reading in other forums would be being ETA.
Yeah that does bring back the 'classic' look.
I guess I'll probably go for the old ETA ones while its still available at hand. Atleast I know this is gonna be my keeper so it doesn't really matter whether its in-house or not.
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Some AD doesn't have it anymore so better be quick.

Else look into the 2nd hand market

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